Originally posted by: PorscheMaD911
Porn destroys people's values, our ideals, our morals and our ability to live as God designed us. It is almost the ultimate evil.
Dabbling in porn is so dangerous, because it so often does not stop there. If a young person gets into porn there's a good chance it will turn into an addiction, and change them from the inside out. And there is no changing back. What you were is lost forever. Many of society's problems are the result of abusing ours and other people's bodies, and the proper God-given context of sex and sexuality.
I guess you guys will write me off as a religious wacko, but I know from experience how terrible porn is and what a grip it can have on you. I wish I had never gotten into porn when I was younger, it took me years to recover, and see the damage it had done. I guess you could take the view that it's my problem and nothing to do with zmaster's brother, but millions of people all over the world become slaves to porn.
Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Originally posted by: PorscheMaD911
Porn destroys people's values, our ideals, our morals and our ability to live as God designed us. It is almost the ultimate evil.
Dabbling in porn is so dangerous, because it so often does not stop there. If a young person gets into porn there's a good chance it will turn into an addiction, and change them from the inside out. And there is no changing back. What you were is lost forever. Many of society's problems are the result of abusing ours and other people's bodies, and the proper God-given context of sex and sexuality.
I guess you guys will write me off as a religious wacko, but I know from experience how terrible porn is and what a grip it can have on you. I wish I had never gotten into porn when I was younger, it took me years to recover, and see the damage it had done. I guess you could take the view that it's my problem and nothing to do with zmaster's brother, but millions of people all over the world become slaves to porn.
I totally agree with you and have a similar story as you.
Unfortunately, here we are a minority.
OP, your brother is playing with fire and it will burn him eventually. Do what you know you should do. I wish more people (including my parents when I was a teen) would be as concerned about this issue as you are.
My theory is that that is just a trap. Mothers can then see if their kids are constantly checking their own vision, and looking for hair on their hands.Certain sexual activity causes you to go blind/grows hair on your palms. Common old-fashioned belief....not true also.
Originally posted by: zmaster
das fox, im sorry if i decieved you, or in any way implied i know little about pcs. i find my knowledge of pcs adequate in that i can take them apart, diagnose format, configure etc.
that is why my q was so specific. i have never done it before. the cracking whatever, is mostly when programs are borrowed, not when you need acess to someones pc.
what about over network?
oh the hdd remove wont work as his pc is locked....a thermaltake xaser or some such case. with a key.
some people simply do not understand how other people can control desires. out of all the people who use porno, very few actually get "addicted". and most of those people probably get addicted to other things very easily too. i'm using the term 'addicted' in the true, medical sense. i'm sorry for those of you who were negatvely affected by porno, but you are in the minority.Again, just because it burned you doesn't mean it will burn him. It is much more likely that it will not "burn" him. You are in the minority because it does not burn most people. You can get addicted to pretty much anything if you have that type of personality
Originally posted by: kovert
OMFG - seriously enough with the religious moral crap...
Religion is another dividing line in this wonderful world we live in.
If you want to hack (yes hack) your brothers computer, so be it. It would be like breaking the lock on your sister's diary or snooping in your parents drawers when they weren't home. How does that help. No matter how you have proof, remember you obtained it in a shady way and he will remember that. What's next the GPS locator on his clothes because you don't "think" he is hanging out in the wrong places.
If people would remember "kids will be kids" then things will be alright. I've been involved in some crappy things as a kid, but you learn from *EVERYTHING* you do and that's what helps you make the right choices later on in life.
I thought us computer nerds would have more common sense, especially since some of the people here probably don't even participate in normal society.
How about this, next time, keep him off the chat rooms because it will stunt his face to face conversation aka real world communication.
DAMN, people piss me off.
If you had suspicions you could have talked to your brother about this anyway. Breaking into his computer served no purpose whatsoever. If you had a trusting relationship with your brother (as I do with mine) he would be willing to admit to things and talk about things to you that he would not to the parents. I would imagine he will never trust you again (and rightly so).Originally posted by: zmaster
a followup and a conclusion.
since there was no presentable way to "hack" into the pc, i cracked her open, took out the hdds, and hooked em up to my pc. what i found was basic pornography. pics, videos and alike. nothing extreme or bizzare. after returning it in his pc, i waited for him to be back home, and talked to him. There was nothing much for me to say, except that i as disappointed in him, and that he should read what it said at the start of the movies...i.e no under 18s. his response was at first the usual violation of personal property, but then he cooled down after i mentioned that parents could have violated that too...and reminded him that hes lucky it was me. all in all, i decided i cannot control what he does on his pc, but at least he is a bit wiser, and a helluva lot more embarassed now than he was before.
case closed
zmaster was just looking for some better porn sites anyway.Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: kovert
OMFG - seriously enough with the religious moral crap...
Religion is another dividing line in this wonderful world we live in.
If you want to hack (yes hack) your brothers computer, so be it. It would be like breaking the lock on your sister's diary or snooping in your parents drawers when they weren't home. How does that help. No matter how you have proof, remember you obtained it in a shady way and he will remember that. What's next the GPS locator on his clothes because you don't "think" he is hanging out in the wrong places.
If people would remember "kids will be kids" then things will be alright. I've been involved in some crappy things as a kid, but you learn from *EVERYTHING* you do and that's what helps you make the right choices later on in life.
I thought us computer nerds would have more common sense, especially since some of the people here probably don't even participate in normal society.
How about this, next time, keep him off the chat rooms because it will stunt his face to face conversation aka real world communication.
DAMN, people piss me off.
Actually, its crack not hack. A hack is a when you do something cool with some code or hardware. A crack is when you break into something. Being a person who has been on both sides I feel qualified to comment.
A lot of people here seem to think you have to pay for porn? Yea if he was paying for porn (or if anyone was) they should get help asap. I mean this is the internet, we dont even pay for movies, music, or games. Why would we pay for porn?
Originally posted by: PorscheMaD911
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: hooflung
Originally posted by: JasonE4
Just because you think porn is bad and that people should control natural urges doesn't mean other people should.:roll:Second of all, porn is bad mkay. Just because you can't control your bodily urges doesn't mean you should tell this guy not to.
Porn is bad. It is not natural. Sex is natural. Selling sex is not natural. Selling is commerce. Commerce is manmade. Using your body in ways it wasn't intended to, multiple partners over short periods of time for extended periods of time, is a bodily hazard and unnatural. Mixing a bad biological decision with commerce is not natural. It similar, albeit more serious, to the portrayal of SUPERSIZE ME. Bad eating habbits and cheap food is very similar to the act of making pornography. Problem is that the Porn Industry has millions of vewers watching and that drives the actors and actresses to perpetuate their bad decision. Viewers take a small responsibility in their bad decision because free market commerce is built in such a way that supply and demand delagates responsibility of the product to the supplier and consumers. The freedom to voice and believe in your own oppinion doesn't negate basic funamental biologic and marketing truths. I have to equate porn with fast food because the parallels are there, although there are also social points of view that will taboo one and not the other.
Wah wah wah, cry us a river.
to the OP: keylogger. Slaving the HD to your box is a good idea, too.
Hooflung's absolutely right. Porn destroys people's values, our ideals, our morals and our ability to live as God designed us. It is almost the ultimate evil.
Dabbling in porn is so dangerous, because it so often does not stop there. If a young person gets into porn there's a good chance it will turn into an addiction, and change them from the inside out. And there is no changing back. What you were is lost forever. Many of society's problems are the result of abusing ours and other people's bodies, and the proper God-given context of sex and sexuality.
I think it's great that zmaster cares. I can't believe people are asking why? If you love someone you want to stop them from hurting themselves.
I guess you guys will write me off as a religious wacko, but I know from experience how terrible porn is and what a grip it can have on you. I wish I had never gotten into porn when I was younger, it took me years to recover, and see the damage it had done. I guess you could take the view that it's my problem and nothing to do with zmaster's brother, but millions of people all over the world become slaves to porn.
Try reading some porn-addiction forums, and you will see that it is a huge problem, and it ruins many lives.
Originally posted by: TNM93
Let your brother live his own life. If he's into porn, why push your beliefs onto him? You're not his keeper.
Originally posted by: zmaster
My brother is 10. why is everyone assuming just b/c he can put a password on his account that hes old? whassup with that people. anyways, let this topic die...
Originally posted by: santaliqueur
following that logic, yes we should.There are a lot of obese people out there, and obesity can be fatal. These people seem to be addicted to food. I suppose we'd best outlaw food immediately, because it can cause death.
people get addicted to lots of things. addictions to tobacco, gambling, alcohol, and food (i forgot about this one, very important) are FAR more common than addictions to porno. sure, i look at porn every day, but it does not mean i am addicted. if i was away from the computer for a few weeks, i'd probably think "man, i wish i could get back to the comp...for the porno", but it surely wouldnt ruin my life.
the problem is not that you don't use porno.
the problem is not that you think porno is bad.
the problem is not that you were addicted to porno.
the problem is that you think we can not handle porno because you could not.
I guess you guys will write me off as a religious wacko
If a young person gets into porn there's a good chance it will turn into an addiction
Many of society's problems are the result of abusing ours and other people's bodies, and the proper God-given context of sex and sexuality
millions of people all over the world become slaves to porn
if you dont want us to see you as a religious wacko, then try writing things based on fact. everything you wrote is highly opinionated, and being passed off as truth. care to back up any of these claims? i thought not.
Originally posted by: JasonE4
Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Originally posted by: PorscheMaD911
Porn destroys people's values, our ideals, our morals and our ability to live as God designed us. It is almost the ultimate evil.
Dabbling in porn is so dangerous, because it so often does not stop there. If a young person gets into porn there's a good chance it will turn into an addiction, and change them from the inside out. And there is no changing back. What you were is lost forever. Many of society's problems are the result of abusing ours and other people's bodies, and the proper God-given context of sex and sexuality.
I guess you guys will write me off as a religious wacko, but I know from experience how terrible porn is and what a grip it can have on you. I wish I had never gotten into porn when I was younger, it took me years to recover, and see the damage it had done. I guess you could take the view that it's my problem and nothing to do with zmaster's brother, but millions of people all over the world become slaves to porn.
I totally agree with you and have a similar story as you.
Unfortunately, here we are a minority.
OP, your brother is playing with fire and it will burn him eventually. Do what you know you should do. I wish more people (including my parents when I was a teen) would be as concerned about this issue as you are.
Again, just because it burned you doesn't mean it will burn him. It is much more likely that it will not "burn" him. You are in the minority because it does not burn most people. You can get addicted to pretty much anything if you have that type of personality.
Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
Originally posted by: PorscheMaD911
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: hooflung
Originally posted by: JasonE4
Just because you think porn is bad and that people should control natural urges doesn't mean other people should.:roll:Second of all, porn is bad mkay. Just because you can't control your bodily urges doesn't mean you should tell this guy not to.
Porn is bad. It is not natural. Sex is natural. Selling sex is not natural. Selling is commerce. Commerce is manmade. Using your body in ways it wasn't intended to, multiple partners over short periods of time for extended periods of time, is a bodily hazard and unnatural. Mixing a bad biological decision with commerce is not natural. It similar, albeit more serious, to the portrayal of SUPERSIZE ME. Bad eating habbits and cheap food is very similar to the act of making pornography. Problem is that the Porn Industry has millions of vewers watching and that drives the actors and actresses to perpetuate their bad decision. Viewers take a small responsibility in their bad decision because free market commerce is built in such a way that supply and demand delagates responsibility of the product to the supplier and consumers. The freedom to voice and believe in your own oppinion doesn't negate basic funamental biologic and marketing truths. I have to equate porn with fast food because the parallels are there, although there are also social points of view that will taboo one and not the other.
Wah wah wah, cry us a river.
to the OP: keylogger. Slaving the HD to your box is a good idea, too.
Hooflung's absolutely right. Porn destroys people's values, our ideals, our morals and our ability to live as God designed us. It is almost the ultimate evil.
Dabbling in porn is so dangerous, because it so often does not stop there. If a young person gets into porn there's a good chance it will turn into an addiction, and change them from the inside out. And there is no changing back. What you were is lost forever. Many of society's problems are the result of abusing ours and other people's bodies, and the proper God-given context of sex and sexuality.
I think it's great that zmaster cares. I can't believe people are asking why? If you love someone you want to stop them from hurting themselves.
I guess you guys will write me off as a religious wacko, but I know from experience how terrible porn is and what a grip it can have on you. I wish I had never gotten into porn when I was younger, it took me years to recover, and see the damage it had done. I guess you could take the view that it's my problem and nothing to do with zmaster's brother, but millions of people all over the world become slaves to porn.
Try reading some porn-addiction forums, and you will see that it is a huge problem, and it ruins many lives.
First, you are proceeding just like a Christian would: You assume that everyone else around you is a Christian. Big mistake.
Second, you must be Catholic to be so guilt ridden.
Third, you say "to live as God designed us" and then "proper God given context of sex and sexuality." Wow. Only a major right wing bible thumping literalist would have the audacity and myopia to have come up with such nonsense.
The OP is a fool. His brother will not trust him again. I wouldn't. My assumption is his brother is in the 14 to 16 age range. This is a perfectly normal time for a young male to start exploring what makes what work...and any nonbiased doctor or psychiatric professional will tell you the same thing. What has been committed here is a major breach of trust.
To the original OP: Watch your PC.
That is all I have to say about this.