I like square engines. 700 hp AND 700 lb-ft torque from 2000 RPM to redline.
Why pick just one?
so 2000 rpm redline then...
... man there is so much wrong with this thread.
I like square engines. 700 hp AND 700 lb-ft torque from 2000 RPM to redline.
Why pick just one?
Running full torque all the time? I think those are called trucks. No they don't fail every couple miles.
so 2000 rpm redline then...
... man there is so much wrong with this thread.
You missed a word there. 2000 TO redline.
What's wrong with this thread is the armchair mechanics. WTF is "full torque"?. And no shit a "civic engine" doesn't have the same torque as a "truck engine". It's called: displacement.
Shawn, go away.
no i didnt miss the word, but i may have comprehended his sentence wrong. depends if he wants 700HP AND 700 torque. or if he meant he just wants torque from 2000 to redline.
I like square engines. 700 hp AND 700 lb-ft torque from 2000 RPM to redline.
Why pick just one?
My guess is exdeath was just yet again bragging about his amazingly flat torque curve. It makes him feel better than all of us, so just let him be.
People are making it too complicated.
Torque is the rotational force of the engine.
Horsepower is a product of that rotational force and rotation speed.
so 2000 rpm redline then...
... man there is so much wrong with this thread.
Just making a point that you can have both.
No, you can't. Torque x Engine speed / 5,252 = Horsepower. If your torque is flat your horsepower goes through the roof at high RPM's. You cannot have them both being the same as RPM goes up.
What you said nearly the same as saying, "I want it to take me an hour to go 60 miles all the way up to 200MPH."
700lb-ft of torque would be:
133HP at 1000RPM
266HP at 2000RPM
399HP at 3000RPM
533HP at 4000RPM
666HP at 5000RPM
700HP at 5252RPM <--- where HP and Torque cross
799HP at 6000RPM
This is why saying, "700lb-ft and 700HP from 2000RPM to redline," is retarded. If you have 700lb-ft you do not have 700HP at 2000RPM, 3000RPM, or anywhere else but 5252RPM.
HP=how fast you punch
TQ=how hard you puch
Martin Brundle said that.
My guess is exdeath was just yet again bragging about his amazingly flat torque curve. It makes him feel better than all of us, so just let him be.
That's pretty obvious genius. I didn't say both at the same time, also notice emphasis on AND to establish word grouping:
700 hp AND 700 lb-ft torque from 2000 RPM to redline.
It's understood that most people in ATG are not dumbasses,
Yes this does mean you can have an engine that puts out both low end torque and high horsepower. Most think you either get lots of torque but no revving or high end HP (diesel, old muscle cars, etc), or high revving high HP and no off the line grunt (M3, S2K, etc). You can have both, something that both lifts the front wheels off the ground off the line AND continues pulling like train at 7K+ RPM.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
Poor phrasing on your part as you did not properly isolate from the prep phrase.
"700 peak horsepower along with 700lb-ft from 2000RPM to redline." would've been better, which puts your redline at 5252RPM.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
No news to we Bandit 1200 owners.
The amount of torque is usually proportional to the rate at which you accelerate a body (usually rotationally).
randay said:You can think of torque as a baseline measurement of the engines power, and horsepower as an indication of how that torque is put to use.
best example would be an electric motor:
maximum torque @ 0 rpm and pretty much linear until you reach the upper limits of the motor
then horsepower becomes a function of rpm
I don't believe every electric motor behaves like that, the torque/power output depends on the motor type
just saying
Finally somebody said it.
Torque is what actually accelerates a car, and your acceleration can be determined by how much torque the motor is putting out.
Horsepower is a measurement of how much torque there is to accelerate a car at a particular rpm. This is because HP is calculated from torque.
When I look at dyno graphs I dont look at HP curves at all because the torque curve tells you everything you need to know, and as stated by Howard, is the rate at which you will be accelerating.