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I'm sure it was some of my tax dollars...Ew... science. Pretty cheap way to try and win an argument.
Ew... science. Pretty cheap way to try and win an argument.
I understand this....but that ^^ program of "weights" is not starting strength.In a 12 week study of 3 groups: diet only, diet plus aerobics (5 times a week, progressing from 30 mins to 50 mins) and diet plus aerobics plus weight training. Diet group lost 14.6 pounds of fat, diet plus aerobics lost 15.6 pounds, and diet plus aerobics plus weights lost 21.1 pounds of fat (44% and 35% more than the other groups, respectively).
[SIZE=-1]Kramer, Volek et al. Influence of exercise training on physiological and performance changes with weight loss in men. Med. Sci. Sports Exerc., Vol. 31, No. 9, pp. 1320-1329, 1999.
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I understand this....but that ^^ program of "weights" is not starting strength.
Starting strength is 5x5 for the big exercises, 3 days a week with lots of rest and lots of calories....with measured weight added to the bar each workout. Go read his forums. He says all the time....GOMAD...and YDNDTP....telling people they are stalling because they dont eat enough.
Steering someone to SS trying to lose weight it just not the way i would do it. Its harder to stay in a deep caloric deficit when you work your body that hard. I know when i lift, my body screams for calories....particularly after deadlifts. Plus...did you see that guy's schedule? It takes me an hour minimum to do a SS workout.
Whatever yall. Go do strongman to lose weight. It has the word weights in it so you'll lose weight.
I understand this....but that ^^ program of "weights" is not starting strength.
Starting strength is 5x5 for the big exercises, 3 days a week with lots of rest and lots of calories....with measured weight added to the bar each workout. Go read his forums. He says all the time....GOMAD...and YDNDTP....telling people they are stalling because they dont eat enough.
Steering someone to SS trying to lose weight it just not the way i would do it. Its harder to stay in a deep caloric deficit when you work your body that hard. I know when i lift, my body screams for calories....particularly after deadlifts. Plus...did you see that guy's schedule? It takes me an hour minimum to do a SS workout.
Whatever yall. Go do strongman to lose weight. It has the word weights in it so you'll lose weight.
Honestly don't bother with input exercise into MFP. Just find what the maintenance calories for your target weight are and eat to that level. The exercise will be a bonus that will deplete fat.
Oh, and I'd aim to get more protein in your diet. Go for a 1/3rd 1/3rd 1/3rd split of fat/carbs/protein if possible. Muscles need the protein to repair themselves.
I started using I-gotu sports for my HRM and so far it's been solid. I know the calorie counter isn't accurate but I use it as a benchmark for my workouts. It gives me something to work towards. Runtastic Pro looks nicer but it's real flaky with the calorie counter which is aggravating. 80% of the time, it doesn't work.
Again, stop trying to calorie count exercise. It's completely futile.
Eat the maintenance calories for your target weight. Don't factor in exercise calorie negatives (so that you can presumably eat more than you should).
For me the calorie counting is more of a benchmark for myself so I can control my intake. It's made a huge difference knowing how much I'm cramming down my gullet. Same with the calorie burning. I know it's not accurate but by using the same app I can compare my cardio workouts to each other and motivate myself to keep going
I don't use the HRM for weights though as it's wildly inaccurate. They are meant for steady state cardio.
Just be mindful of your average weekly weigh in. If this doesn't drop you are eating too much or over estimating your calories used during exercise.
There is no way a person can't lose weight if they eat, train and monitor their weight properly. Just adjust accordingly. Job done.
Koing
^ How do you administer insulin? Excess protein is converted to glucose. Fats have no insulin response.
In a 12 week study of 3 groups: diet only, diet plus aerobics (5 times a week, progressing from 30 mins to 50 mins) and diet plus aerobics plus weight training. Diet group lost 14.6 pounds of fat, diet plus aerobics lost 15.6 pounds, and diet plus aerobics plus weights lost 21.1 pounds of fat (44% and 35% more than the other groups, respectively).
[SIZE=-1]Kramer, Volek et al. Influence of exercise training on physiological and performance changes with weight loss in men. Med. Sci. Sports Exerc., Vol. 31, No. 9, pp. 1320-1329, 1999.
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http://www.healthfitonline.com/resources/articles/Cardio_Is_Not_Your_Answer.phpWhy they did not include another group with diet plus weights, mystifies me . . . My guess is the study was limited by resources (i.e., funding). :-/