HELP NEEDED!!! Win2K won't boot at all!!!! (Updated: Almost fixed - Now I can't log in!)

[DefRef]

Thank gawd I have WinXp on the dual-boot, but this SUX!!

My cable appeared to be out for several days (was gone for the weekend) and I was using the dial-up. Logging off and on didn't change anything and I had a call into the @Home folks. Well, today, I DLed the latest Crucial Updates from M$ and then rebooted. When it's just about to go to the Desktop, it BSODs and gives this error:

STOP: c000021a (Fatal System Error)
Windows Login Process system process terminated unexpectedly blah-yadda-lots of numbers...

I was using TweakUI to automatically log in, but I don't see how that would affect it. I've tried booting with Last Known Good, Safe Mode with and w/o Networking without success. I have the SP2 patch on the HD, but I can't rerun it in DOS. Now what?!?

I've looked around on Usenet and MSKB with no luck. HDs are FAT32. System had been up for 6-7 days and only dropped the cable after a few days.

I'm really screwed, but it would be worse if the cable wasn't really working and XP wasn't here to fall back on. (So we also know that the NIC and cable aren't the problem.) Please he'p ASAFP!!!!

(This topic was originally posted here.)

 

[Fant]

I had a major catastrophe the other day too. Computer's been running fine for 2 months under winxp. No overclocking here. Couple of days ago I installed a few windows update (updated sblive driver and new msn messenger). Then when the computer went to boot...got a Registry File Load failed...and I couldn't do anything to recover it except load an old registry file from ways before.

From my research it sounded like the system attempted to reboot/shutdown before the harddrive had time to finish writing to the registry hence it got corrupted. I figured no problem, winxp must have a backup? Well it turns out the only backup of the registry file was when I created an emergency repair disk 2 months ago! What's the point of System Restore if it does not back up the registry in a way that I can restore it?!

Needless to say I had to reformat the partition and reinstall winxp which took all of 1 hour but nevertheless..it's a scary thought that this could happen again...

 

[DefRef]

Talked to someone who suggested booting from the Win2K CD and doing a Repair. Any thoughts on this or other solutions?

 

[DefRef]

Ah HELL!!! I tried to do the Repair and it gave a message that "The hard drive is either new or has a non-compatible OS install..." and if I try to continue, it's going to toast the data on the drive. NOT GOOD! WTF and now what?

 

[zzzz]

weird..I am getting simillar error today.

 

[DefRef]

Did you DL the latest Critical Updates?

 

[awsheat]

sorry, if your recovery console doesnt recognize the drive, then it cant repair the installation

When this has happened to me, the only thing I could do was format/reinstall

However, if you can boot into XP, why not boot into that to backup any files you need or whatever, If you have XP on a separate partition you can move all your critical stuff to there, format the 2k partition and start over.

There might be some advance ways to boot into a command prompt and check/modify the directories of your HD to be able to boot into 2k but I'm not sure how.. Ask some others here.. I know there are commands to auto load previous registries and stuff

 

[DefRef]

From what I heard, the Repair option is supposed to redo the WinNT folder and whatnot without trashing it all. I'm in XP now, but I've got a TON of stuff that may not be able to be backed up and/or I have a zillion apps to reinstall and configure. DAMMIT!

What caused this?

 

[DefRef]

OK, now I'm annoyed. I got the Repair to run (I missed the bit where you have to feed it the Highpoint drivers), but when it rebooted, it goes to the bit right before the login and then gives MSTask errors (that appear to be concerned with NAV) but worse, it won't let me login (doesn't accept password) because the domain (my computers cable ID) isn't available!

FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!! FVCK!!!

OK, better now....

1. How do I get around this?
2. See #1
3. Why did this happen?

It's only giving me a login dialogue with the ID and PW lines. There's no option to switch domains.

HE'P....MORE!!!

 

[obenton]

What are you doing on a domain rather than a workgroup?

 

[DefRef]

When I installed Win2K, it added my PC ID as part of the @Home workgroup. I'm not quite sure how it's set up because I installed back in July and it just worked with the cable. What it's doing now is saying it can't access a domain named the PC name. (c12345-a, not the number, but the format.)

How can I get around this stupid ass login?!?

 

[DefRef]

C'mon! Where are the l337 h4X0r3z?!?

 

[DefRef]

Bumping for bedtime.

 

[obenton]

When I set up my wife's @home connection I made her computer a member of a workgroup (private LAN), not a domain, and, per @home instructions, gave her the computer name as assigned by @home. To set up the login process I ran the @home cd and, to avoid loading the @home browser, etc., aborted as soon as that was done.

 

[Psychoholic]

<< gave her the computer name as assigned by @home. >>


@home gives you the name they want your computer to be??? :Q
Glad I'm on Road Runner.

Is it just me or is his explanation of what's going on a little hard to follow???

DefRef, how did you set your computer up on a domain without a domain controller???

 

[DefRef]

It's not set onto a domain, that's just the error I'm getting.

@Home used to have static IPs and I used to have to set my networking up with IPs and DNS servers and gateways and all that fun stuff. Then, after a year of that (been a customer for 2-1/2 years), they switched to a DHCP setup where I just named the computer the same and the DHSP server would deal the rest of the info, which oddly remained the SAME. I think they just have a lookup table that say, "Oh, DefRef's computer is logging in and he's 123.12.1.12." which allows them to control the IP pools better AND (more likely) cut down on the need to walk "PC Muggles" thru the mysteries of network configuration.

Anyhoo...when I installed Win2K, there a part where they ask for any ID info necessary for networking, I feed it the assigned name and "@Home" as the WORKGROUP (if I recall correctly). Then when it finally boots up, it's online and no further messing around is needed.

Well, after running the Repair, it's obviously replaced a ton of files that were updated by SP2 and general use and now I'm locked out. (Nice security feature there. Bleah!) For whatever reason (I'm thinking that TweakUI, trying to log me in, is the culprit) I'm screwed.

Is there file I can delete while in the XP environment or some setting I can override to fix this? I've got an old Ghost image that I guess I could run, but I REALLY don't want to have to do that, so any brilliant ideas would truly give me reason to give thanks.

 

[obenton]

Try reverting back to the configuration that worked for you. Uninstall TweakUI, reinstall SP2, put back TweakUI if you think you need it, etc. And check all your network settings to see if they are correct (workgroup, tcp/ip, etc.).

 

[DefRef]

How am I supposed to do ANYTHING when I can't get into the system at all?!?!?! At first, I couldn't get to the login portion without the STOP error, now I can't login because it thinks it can't reach a domain. If it was just a matter of reapplying the SP2 and removing TweakUI, I would've done that already, but I'm totally locked out.

I sorry to sound like I'm screaming, but it seems that either people aren't reading all the details or I'm being pitifully unclear as to what the problem is. I'm just frustrated that a simple reboot has sent me on a 3-day-long ordeal of escalating nonsense.:|

Now, if there is a way to get around this, I need some SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS on what to do. If by "revert back" you mean "Wipe out the partition and put the Ghost back on.", then say so, otherwise let me know what to do. Thanks.

 

[obenton]

I assume w2k is on C:. At this point I'd use the other OS to copy needed data from the drive, delete everything from the drive except for the boot files, and then reinstall. If, for any reason, you can't delete all the folders/files (sometimes happens), I'd do a format/install. Before doing that, however, make a boot floppy so that you can access XP while all this is going on - to do this format a floppy using XP, and to it copy the boot files (ntldr, ntdetect.com, boot.ini - I'm assuming here that XP boot files are the same as w2k).

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

you know @home is "DHCP" but what i believe is happening is that they just switched so they can fall back on it if they need to. the @home tech couldnt get my comp to lease an ip from the DHCP server so i'm set up static.

on the work order, it will say CIP: 123.123.123.123

that is your ip.

you can be static on @home, if you want, but thats not to say that a year or 2 or 3 down the road your ip might change.

EVERYONE i have seen talk about this says that they have never seen their ip change on @home.

that is why i said "DHCP" above. note the quotations. heh.

 

[DefRef]

Jeez...not to sound like an AOL user, but WTF do you make boot disks for XP?!? The only thing I can find in Help is how to make a MS-DOS boot disk. Backup doesn't give an ERD option, nor anything but file backup stuff. (BTW: My Win2K floppies had a corrupted file, so they're useless.)

 

[DefRef]

Is this article a good guide to the boot disk question?

Between the throat infection and this, I'm having a cruddy week.

 

[DefRef]

Another question is: If I restore the Ghost image to the C drive, will it FUBAR the MBR and wipe out my dual-boot configuration? I don't want to lose my XP setup.

Jeez...this really is suck.

 

[DefRef]

^bump^

 

[DannyLove]

god how i love the search function here in AT.

I have a similar problem. My cousins comp just got this error after reinstalling Win2k twice. I am getting a different Stop error though, it is a stop error but it says this:

Stop: (00.02l0o3092o bla bla bla lots of #s)
Unaccessible_bott_device

its weird, but win2k is loading, it loads the first boot bar, but once it gets to the logo screen it loads half way and bam blue screen. Strange. It had about a paragraph into what to do, first it said to reboot if I first got this error, if it happens again, it said to follow these directions:

1. it said something about computer virus, (i dont have any virus, since I formated, either way ill scan right now)
2. said something about hardware configuration, (i did like 10 checks, everythig is fine)
3. it said something about CHDSK /F to scan for corruptions. (haven't done it yet, but i dont think its it)

so far, I havent' done anything since I just started with this problem, i'll post once or if i fix this STOP ERROR.

here is my exact problem:
HERE

danny~!