It's not a question of wether they know you overclocked or not but of personal integrity and honor. Many of us feel that if you want to play you gotta be willing to pay and people who RMA their dead CPUs that died due to warranty voiding activity are scum. All the arguments about how it's not really stealing because it's a large corporation and they are evil are lost on me and in the end the rest of us pay more because of the scumbags who do it. This concludes my lecture to the ethically impairedOriginally posted by: momento
The question is still, how do they (amd) know whether the chip was overclocked or really didn't work? Are we talking about an overclocked chip will always be seriously burnt and thus leaving a distinct physical damage? How do they exclude the cause of chip failure ?
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
It's not a question of wether they know you overclocked or not but of personal integrity and honor. Many of us feel that if you want to play you gotta be willing to pay and people who RMA their dead CPUs that died due to warranty voiding activity are scum. All the arguments about how it's not really stealing because it's a large corporation and they are evil are lost on me and in the end the rest of us pay more because of the scumbags who do it. This concludes my lecture to the ethically impairedOriginally posted by: momento
The question is still, how do they (amd) know whether the chip was overclocked or really didn't work? Are we talking about an overclocked chip will always be seriously burnt and thus leaving a distinct physical damage? How do they exclude the cause of chip failure ?
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Curiosity? Yeah right!What possible practical application could such information be put to other than to help abuse the warranty? The data being sought here is irrelevant if you do not intend to abuse the information so it was a logical deduction and I make no appologies for being brash enough to confront the issue head on. Applying AS3 will void your warranty, overclocking will void your warranty, asking how they would know is a lame attempt to determine if voiding the warranty can be gotten away with so as to abuse the terms and still receive a replacement in the event that the CPU is nuked. IMO A far more logical deduction than curiosity when the subject of the thread pertains to reasons to choose either a OEM or retail version. Can you offer a more compelling or less disreputable reason than simple curiosity? One that does not result in the potential to abuse the warranty and that would still be pertinent to the topic of OEM vs retail?
A. You've been told the retail cooler is unimpressive
B. You know the OEM is less expensive and that you'll require an after market cooler
C. The persistance in wanting a definitive answer on the subject of how AMD determines how the CPU failed is therefore inherently suspicous and this is the internet where warez and other illegal activities are rampant
Hmmmm.....Interesting, you would prefer I prevaricate and fabricate an answer instead of giving a straight forward and honest response then refer to my belief concerning the importance of ethics as crap. Thank you for confirming that my low estimation of what prompted the question was indeed well founded.Originally posted by: momento
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Curiosity? Yeah right!What possible practical application could such information be put to other than to help abuse the warranty? The data being sought here is irrelevant if you do not intend to abuse the information so it was a logical deduction and I make no appologies for being brash enough to confront the issue head on. Applying AS3 will void your warranty, overclocking will void your warranty, asking how they would know is a lame attempt to determine if voiding the warranty can be gotten away with so as to abuse the terms and still receive a replacement in the event that the CPU is nuked. IMO A far more logical deduction than curiosity when the subject of the thread pertains to reasons to choose either a OEM or retail version. Can you offer a more compelling or less disreputable reason than simple curiosity? One that does not result in the potential to abuse the warranty and that would still be pertinent to the topic of OEM vs retail?
A. You've been told the retail cooler is unimpressive
B. You know the OEM is less expensive and that you'll require an after market cooler
C. The persistance in wanting a definitive answer on the subject of how AMD determines how the CPU failed is therefore inherently suspicous and this is the internet where warez and other illegal activities are rampant
Alright, alright, if you really think someone is going to abuse the answer to that question, you could have just answered with "i don't really know how they do it but AMD has certain testing equipment that can detect circuitry damage caused by oc'ing due to overload or heating" (if you really want to protect the interest of amd and honest consumer regardless of whether you know the answer to the question or not). That would be a much better deterrent to scare people from oc'ing and return the fried chip to amd. Well, instead, you answered a simple question with all your ethical crap. Well done....really, way to go.