Help refresh me on how to Overclock an I7 6700k

Lyfer

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Will be helping my brother upgrade his PC and need some pointers for overclocking. We will likely be using these parts:

CPU - Intel i7 6700K - $442 (bundled with mobo below)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tdm...bx80662i76700k
Mobo - Asus Z170-P (super budget Z170 board and this is bundled with the CPU)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9L2...herboard-z170p
HSF - Cryorig H7 $35
https://www.amazon.com/CRYORIG-H7-T...TF8&qid=1469802084&sr=8-1&keywords=cryorig+h7
RAM - G.Skill TridentZ 16gb (8gbx2) ddr4 2800 1.25v RAM -$75

The last time I overclocked was his current 2500K which we got to 4.4ghz at close to stock voltages on an EVO212. I would like to try to aim for that if possible as a goal and maybe 3200 on the Trident Z ram. I think I used the mobo's auto OC'ing tool and just decreased the CPU voltage by .5 increments.

Any help for a noob? the Asus Z170-P board specifically?

Thank you in advance!
 
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maddogmcgee

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Will be helping my brother upgrade his PC and need some pointers for overclocking. We will likely be using these parts:

CPU - Intel i7 6700K - $442 (bundled with mobo below)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tdm...bx80662i76700k
Mobo - Asus Z170-P (super budget Z170 board and this is bundled with the CPU)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9L2...herboard-z170p
HSF - Corsair H60 - $60
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vwd...h60cw9060007ww
RAM - G.Skill TridentZ 16gb (8gbx2) ddr4 2800 1.25v RAM -$75

The last time I overclocked was his current 2500K which we got to 4.4ghz at close to stock voltages on an EVO212. I would like to try to aim for that if possible as a goal and maybe 3200 on the Trident Z ram. I think I used the mobo's auto OC'ing tool and just decreased the CPU voltage by .5 increments.

Any help for a noob? the Asus Z170-P board specifically?

Thank you in advance!

Meh, basically the same process as always.

Make sure CPU is 100 percent before touching ram.

Only difference is the CPU cache. It does not, however, seem like it is worth the extra voltage to me.
 

Lyfer

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I did some further research on the Corsair H60 and it looks like 120MM class rad's can barely put up 212 EVO performance. Not worth it so I will be going with a tradition HSF (Cryorig H7 will be my choice).
 

MTDEW

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Here is a good starting point.
A: use advanced bios mode, not EZ mode
B: Its best to run the ram at 2133mhz while testing the CPU overclock, then once the CPU overclock is done, you can set your ram to its XMP profile.
C: Its best to test your CPU using a manual fixed voltage first, then you can move to adaptive mode later once you know your CPUs stable voltage/overclock.
D And I agree with the above, CPU cache isn't worth the effort.
Tip: Dont forget to press enter when manually entering values in the bios to be sure the value "sticks".

Under AI Tweaker
1: Asus overclock tuner - manual (manual for now, can change to XMP for your ram later after finalizing CPU overclock)
2: Asus Multicore Enhancement - Disabled
3: CPU core ratio - Sync all cores
4: CPU multiplier - 44 (4.4ghz)
5: Bclk Freq - 100
6: DRAM Odd Ratio mode - Auto
7: Dram Freq - Auto (2133mhz) You'll change this later after you've established your final/stable CPU overclock.
8: CPU Voltage - Manual
9: CPU Voltage 1.325v (just using this voltage as a starting point since its safe and gradually lower/test it, until you "dial it in")
I personally would guess for 4.4ghz around 1.248v or a bit lower would work easily, but ive seen some people say their 6700k needs 1.3v or more for 4.4ghz so i just decided to say start at 1.325v and work you way down to see what YOUR cpu needs)
10: DRAM Voltage - Auto (for now use auto which should be 1.2v for 2133mhz, later when you set your ram to use the XMP profile be sure this is set to your rams rated voltage!!)

Under DIGI + VRM
1: CPU Load-Line Calibration - Level 5 (level 5 should keep your CPU voltage pretty close to what you manually set in the bios while under load in windows...if not try level 4...etc...etc..)
2: CPU Power Phase Control - Optimized (Higher settings are for more extreme overclocks but of course generate more heat too....when in doubt, use AUTO and it will try to use the best setting for your overclock settings)
3: VRM Spread Spectrum - Disable

TIP: you can disable speed-step and CPU C-states while testing and re-enable them later if you want to use those features.

Under the Monitor Menu
Q-fan control
Disable all of them to run your fans at full-speed while testing if you want....or you can set them manually or use the Asus fan tuning to set them.....just don't forget to set them!

Use the above as a starting point along with your stability testing programs to find your stable CPU speed/voltage.
Asus Realbench and AIDA64 Extreme work well for Skylake testing.....
Asus Realbench is FREE.
Aida 64 Extreme can be used free for 30days, so thats plenty long for testing.

HWMonitor works well for monitoring voltages/temps.
NOTE! When viewing voltages in HWMonitor be sure to observe where your voltage "settles at" after 5mins under load, that is the value you are trying to set.
In HWMonitor it also records the MAX voltage, this will be the voltage "spike" when the CPU is switching power states, so it will be higher but is completely normal so dont worry, this is due to the Voltage Regulator being moved from the CPU to the motherboard with Skylake CPUs...Asus Rep says they added this to compensate for the voltage "delay/droop" caused by the VR now being on the mobo instead being internal on the cpu.

Once everything is done and you have your stable CPU overclock/voltage
you can switch to adaptive mode and type in the voltage you have settled on in manual mode, I also add a +.0001 offset UNDER adaptive mode to BE SURE. (leave LLC on level 5 or whatever you used in manual mode and test to be sure you're hitting the correct voltage under load)

Using Adaptive mode along with speed-step & C-States will allow your CPU to down-clock and lower its voltage "on the fly" when not under load unlike manual mode where your CPU uses the same constant voltage all the time.
tip: If your CPU speed doesn't drop when idle with them enabled...Dont forget to check windows power plan to ensure you have it set to allow the CPU to drop below 100% when not under load. (use 5%-10% minimum processor state like the Balanced Power Plan does)


After all that is done, you can change the Asus Overclock tuner to XMP to select your rams XMP settings, once done reboot and check that all settings were set correctly using the XMP profile. (especially voltage and the 4 main timings and speed)

Note: Some people have intermittent boot issues when running DDR4 3200mhz and above.
If you do, try upping the following voltages.
Asus rep says you can go as high as the following to fix the issue....
Under DIGI + VRM
System Agent Boot Voltage - 1.25v
VCCIO - 1.20

Also if you're using a discrete GPU, FCLK should be set to 1000 for best performance.
Some bios updates automatically set it to 1000 and removed the option to manually set this all together, so if you cant find it don't worry about it.

Tip: Asus Adaptive mode with LLC Level 5 will jump in 0.016 voltage increments under load....this confuses a LOT of people....so be aware that if you choose an Adaptive voltage in between the following values, at the desktop under load you will most likely see the following voltages under load.
1.200 - 1.216 - 1.232 - 1.248 - 1.264 - 1.280 - 1.296 - 1.312 - 1.328 - 1.344 - 1.360 - 1.376 - 1.392 - 1.408 (you get the idea)

Holy crap, i typed a darn novel!....sorry about that.
 
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MTDEW

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Wow thank you so much!
NP
I have a 6700k and an Asus Z170-E and looking at your mobo manual, all settings look be pretty much the same, so that should work just fine for your setup.
 

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One thing that tripped me up was getting my ram to 3000mhz. I had to bump VCCIO and System Agent up by quite a bit (1.25 each) before I was stable running the ram at its XMS.

The thing is that VCC IO and System Agent start at such low voltages (like 0.7 or something) that you think you only need to raise it a notch or two.

At least this is for my GB MATX board.
 

Lyfer

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MTDEW

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Ended up ordering this.

ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII RANGER LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-132-586

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C15D-16GVR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-231-878

And the 6700k for $580. I got the Cryorig H7 intead of the H60.
Nice! :thumbsup:
Same settings as above should apply for a starting point.
And the G.Skill ram you chose is a great match(compatible) with Asus mobos, you should be able to just set the rams XMP profile of 3000mhz/1.35v and you're set there and shouldn't need any further "tweaks" for the ram.
(I can actually run my G.skill DDR4 3000mhz ram at DDR4 3200mhz speed on my Asus board with no extra tweaks just by manually using the same settings/timings/voltage as my default XMP DDR4 3000mhz profile.)

EDIT: And in case you're wondering, I've pretty much read every single Asus/Skylake overclocking guide thread there is from beginning to end (took me over a week) and all that info is all consolidated in that first post I made, so those are the same starting point settings you'll find that work for the average overclock with an Asus/Skylake combo.(4.2ghz - 4.7ghz)
Its only when you go for extreme 4.8ghz - 4.9ghz overclocks where you "may" need to start tweaking more settings.
(Im conservative and tend not to push my voltages/temps to their limits, so I didnt bother keeping notes those extreme overclocks ...LOL)
So yeah, overclocking Skylake on an Asus Z170 mobo really is that easy.
So now you just hope you won the CPU silicon lottery...LOL
 
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Lyfer

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Just an update. System is complete! I7 at 4.5ghz on 1.31v. Ram would not play nice at XMP speeds even with voltage updates recommended. I ended dropping it down to pc2800 as things seem stable (knock on wood) now. Ended up getting a corsair carbide 400c case with a modular antec 620w (seasonic made) PSU instead of reusing the old.

Temps look good, 69c on highest core. Picking up an MsI gaming GTX 1070 this Friday if frys has stock and the beast will be completed! System looks beautiful with the black and red theme.
 

Justinbaileyman

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Great thread guys I am in the same boat and plan to overclock my 6700k soon as I get a mobo.
Thinking I might go with ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII RANGER as well. What do you guys think so far is it a good choice? Any issue's I need to know about?
 

Lyfer

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Absolute love the ranger and now it's $50 cheap with a $10 MIR ($140). Newegg wouldn't price match me but they gave me a $50 Newegg GC that will be going towards a new mechanical KB.

Thanks to the great community here things went smoothly. If you need help I'll be happy to help as well!
 

MTDEW

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Just an update. System is complete! I7 at 4.5ghz on 1.31v. Ram would not play nice at XMP speeds even with voltage updates recommended. I ended dropping it down to pc2800 as things seem stable (knock on wood) now. Ended up getting a corsair carbide 400c case with a modular antec 620w (seasonic made) PSU instead of reusing the old.

Temps look good, 69c on highest core. Picking up an MsI gaming GTX 1070 this Friday if frys has stock and the beast will be completed! System looks beautiful with the black and red theme.
I'm surprised you had trouble with that G.Skill ram at XMP settings.
On my board when its set to XMP or manually set at 1.35v, the board actually over-volt's it a bit to 1.36v.
So maybe you could try that if your mobo doesn't automatically over-volt a bit to 1.36v like mine.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Every time I stumble across a thread like this one, I might take another look at a board like the Ranger and the board I already selected for an end-of-year i7-6700K project. I'll probably stick with the Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1, even for the extra $50 or change. But I haven't pulled the checkout string yet, so even I cannot be sure.

No less, MTDEW's summary is quite informative. I won't have to do all of his reading, and I know him to be reliable. I'd be interested in his opinion about an approach that leaves power-saving and adaptive features enabled, after starting a notebook with baseline monitored voltages.

Also, how much droop does LLC level 5 still give you under the more severe stress test programs?
 

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Just an update. System is complete! I7 at 4.5ghz on 1.31v. Ram would not play nice at XMP speeds even with voltage updates recommended. I ended dropping it down to pc2800 as things seem stable (knock on wood) now. Ended up getting a corsair carbide 400c case with a modular antec 620w (seasonic made) PSU instead of reusing the old.

Temps look good, 69c on highest core. Picking up an MsI gaming GTX 1070 this Friday if frys has stock and the beast will be completed! System looks beautiful with the black and red theme.
Did you try disabling XMP and manually setting up the RAM timings? Not sure about the Ranger, but my Hero up to 3200 RAM speeds I leave VCCIO/VCCSA on Auto and the board does a great job of regulating those voltages.
I'm actually overclocking Corsair LPX 4x4GB 2666 to 3200 15-17-17-36- CR1 with 1.39v...board does a great job.
GL.
 

Lyfer

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The beast is complete. Frys price matched newegg. Got that Msi GTX 1070. Running just at 1.9ghz. My brother plays BF4 and overwatch at 1080p at low (he's rank 72 competitive) and frames are constantly over 200-300 FPS at low.
 

Deders

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Excellent summary, I'd just like to point out in case it wasn't clear that although you will only see voltage increments raise or lower by 16, this is only due to the resolution of the sensor. The actual voltages are more fine grain if you measure with an accurate enough multi-meter. Read this from an Asus rep's post.
 

Lyfer

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I'm leaving tomarrow. Early flight home. Won't be able to do much and my brother will have to settle with 4.5ghz, 1.9ghz on GPU and 1400mhz (2800 effective) on the ram.

Newegg had a $50 reduction on the board and $30 on the CPU. They made it a pain to get a price reduction refund but I settled with $75 in mewegg credit. Ended up saving a total of $125 total at the end of the day.
 

Lyfer

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One more update. The Msi GTX 1070 he picked up at Frys is a cherry picked beast. He has it close to 2.1ghz on the core and added another 100mhz to the vram. He also bumped the multiplier to 46 for 4.6ghz but has not stressed teased it. GPU seems to be solid so far with good temps high of 73c.

I'm an so jealous!
 

theNEOone

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One more update. The Msi GTX 1070 he picked up at Frys is a cherry picked beast. He has it close to 2.1ghz on the core and added another 100mhz to the vram. He also bumped the multiplier to 46 for 4.6ghz but has not stressed teased it. GPU seems to be solid so far with good temps high of 73c.

I'm an so jealous!
I think that is pretty typical but maybe I got lucky as well w/ my GTX 1070. He can probably get alot more out of VRAM, although I don't think this will actually get you any more headroom in fps. I could be wrong here because I'm a total noob.

Re: 6700k. Getting to 4.7ghz was pretty straight forward. Getting to 4.8 and making it through a stress test was doable for me but required voltages close to 1.38, which I didn't want to step up to. Here's a resource that might be helpful in teasing out the CPU overclock settings a bit more. It's a Google Sheet where folks have entered their Skylake overclocking settings: link


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guskline

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For stability testing, I run 1 hour of Asus RealBench and then 1/2 hour Intel Extreme Tuning bench test.

I might have gotten a decent chip as I'm able to run solid at 4.7 Ghz.
 
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