Help suggest a wifi router for my mom's house

twende

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I am about to buy a new wifi router for my mom's house and since I don't know much about the current routers available I thought that the Anandtech hive mind might be able to help.

This is what I expect from my new router:
* Security. I guess this is an non-issue. I think WPA2 + a good password should be enough.
* Reliability. (Not disconnect or be unreliable under any normal circumstances (including high load). My benchmark here is my old Apple Time Capsule that I have needed to restart perhaps three times during the last five years.)
* 802.11 b/g/n/ac. Good range on all of those would be nice, since devices of different ages and capabilities are used. Perhaps the most important would be 802.11n 2.4GHz since that might give the best performance through our concrete walls (?). Just guessing.
* Some possibility to extend in a wireless way (WDS?). This might be needed, see below.
* I don't care about usb ports, but some extra ethernet ports would be nice. We don't use any right now.
* Price up to $200. Would rather not spend more unless the improvement is large.

So, basically, I care mostly about reliability and range, and don't think I need any other fancy features.

My mom's house is like a big square box of concrete (walls and, I believe, floor is concrete). There are two floors – most living area is on the top floor, but the router is in the corner of the bottom floor, since that is where the fiber comes in. In the first iteration, the router location will not be moved and there will be no repeaters or similar, but it might be needed later on if reception is not good enough.

Our current router is a Netgear WGR614 (802.11g I think). It reaches most of the house but drops off towards the farthest wall on the second floor, and at times you lose reception there. We just switched to fiber (100 down, 10 up) so I thought I'd upgrade the router as well.

Thank you for any help!
 

nerp

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I am liking two brands for consumer routers these days: TP-Link and ASUS. The T-P Link Archer C5 1200 does pretty much everything you need and it's less than $100, sometimes $50 on sale. The C7 is more robust, bigger antennas and is about $100. If you are willing to break your budget, ASUS has some very impressive models on the higher end.

I bought a C5 T-P Link mainly for improved LAN and wired routing. Turns out the wifi is fantastic. I'm getting 800mbit on my newer wifi devices around my house. Boom.
 

AnonymouseUser

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If you can wait a few weeks, the new Amplifi mesh routing system by Ubiquiti would be ideal. The only problem is that the standard Amplifi @ $199 is a/b/g/n 300/300mbps max. To get a/b/g/n/ac 450/1300mbps you need to get the $349 Amplifi HD, which is still a great price for what you get. All Amplifi routers include 2 extenders which are easy to install simply by plugging into an available power outlet. Additional extenders should be available soon if you need more. Ubiquiti is a great Enterprise networking brand that is expanding into the Consumer market, so quality should not be an issue.
 

nerp

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Ubiquiti stuff is amazing but it might be overkill for grandma.

You can get a TP-Link repeater to stick in the middle of the house and you should get solid reception everywhere.

This http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tml/?c3api=3679,bing,2763659971,1105202454762

works excellently. You can just use the buttons to sync with the router (do it 2x for 2.4 and 5ghz) and it just extends the signal without any config or new SSIDs or multiple networks to screw with.

Another option is powerline networking. Connect one end near the router, another on the other end of the house and connect a WAP to that.
 

twende

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Many interesting options. Thanks, all, I will check out your suggestions! (Amplifi looks nice but I'll have to wait for a few reviews.)
 

freeskier93

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The current Apple Airport Exreme is at your $199 limit. In terms of reliability and speed the AirPort Extreme seems to be on par with Ubiquiti (see some of Ars Technicas articles), but of course you are paying more. I just don't think you are going to get the reliabilty you expect or are used to with the Apple stuff in other consumer brands.
 

freeskier93

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If current Device is a Netgear WGR614 (802.11g I think). Then most of the advise above is an Enthusiasts unable to curb the Over kill.

This will serve well - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BUSDVBQ/ref=psdc_300189_t1_B0168G0KZY





I haven't owned that exact router but I've owned a lot over the years. I've never met a consumer one that didn't turn to crap after a year; wireless dropouts and needing constant resets. Filter out the reviews for that TP router to 3 stars and you'll find the same issues. Problem is lots of people like to write reviews right after they get them.

If reliabilty is one of the main requirements for the OP I fail to see how a Ubiquiti setup is overkill, given how it falls well within the budget.
 

twende

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If current Device is a Netgear WGR614 (802.11g I think). Then most of the advise above is an Enthusiasts unable to curb the Over kill.

This will serve well - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BUSDVBQ/ref=psdc_300189_t1_B0168G0KZY




Yes, that's our current router and it has served us well, except for the part where it cannot reach the far edges of the house. It is 802.11g, but the speed has been good enough for our 2 Mbps ADSL connection. Now we upgraded to a 100/10 Mbps connection over fiber and I thought I might try to fix the other issues as well. Although mom doesn't know much about wifi technology and gear she certainly notices range issues (phone switches to 4G and costs/runs out of data plan) speed (buffering video... etc.) and stability ("Internet doesn't work").

That said, I appreciate your vote for the C7; I will keep it in mind. The second vote for that router in this thread, I believe. (But there are quite a few 1 and 2 star reviews for it on Amazon. Will need to check what that's about.)
 

kevnich2

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I vote ubiquiti, even for grandma. I set this up in my in-laws place for one big reason. I got tired of the "My internet is too slow" calls. I setup a security gateway and one unifi AC LR in the ceiling in the middle of the house. For over a year now, not a single issue and no urgent phone calls.
 

Puffnstuff

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While I'm not willing to pimp any particular brand and model I am willing to tell the OP to avoid the Netgear R7500 X4 Nighthawk like the plague. I've had one fail twice under warranty now and the newest one is out on RMA right now. You can always tell when its about to happen as it stops issuing IPV6 addresses and then just freezes up without warning along with a heat build up on the top of the unit.

Personally I just bought an Asus RT-AC88U for $249 shipped at Jet, however, I can't seem to get it to issue IPV6 addresses on the LAN or get the dual WAN to accept input from my AT&T VDSL router and am waiting to hear back from tech support. Last year I tried a Netgear R8000 but the dual 5ghz radios kept dropping out at random which ran up my cell phones data plans until I discovered it and it went right back to Best Buy. If all grandma needs is Wi-Fi you might consider a Netgear Orbi or Google Wi-Fi setup.
 

smitbret

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I haven't owned that exact router but I've owned a lot over the years. I've never met a consumer one that didn't turn to crap after a year; wireless dropouts and needing constant resets. Filter out the reviews for that TP router to 3 stars and you'll find the same issues. Problem is lots of people like to write reviews right after they get them.

If reliabilty is one of the main requirements for the OP I fail to see how a Ubiquiti setup is overkill, given how it falls well within the budget.

You must abuse the crap out of your networking gear.

My first "real" router was a D-Link DIR-825 in 2008 (when "N" was still in Draft status). Served me well until October of 2013 when I replaced it with an Archer C7. It was the router in my system until December of 2015 when I replaced it with an Asus RT-68U/Nighthawk R7000 and moved the Archer C7 to AP status where it is still working today.

If I were to recommend a router to your average consumer it would still be an Archer C7.
 

PliotronX

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The Ubiquiti gear is the closest that "set it and forget it" gets in wireless networking. Since you are automatically responsible for unpaid IT work in the family, it would behoove you to gravitate towards what "just works." Trust me on this
 
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