Help With Mac Formatted Disks on PC

Johnny Nuge

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I have a Samsung F4 2TB drive formatted to HFS+ by MacDrive for use in an external enclosure. My system locks up (thanks P8P67 Pro!) during a data transfer and I have to reboot. I am unable to access the drive, getting the error "The disk structure is corrupted and unreadable" in Windows. MacDrive freezes during disk repair when checking catalog file. There is a lot of valuable data on there. Help.

I also have a Samsung F2 1.5TB drive initially formatted to HFS+ that was previously used for external storage. I'm able to format it to NTFS, but my system won't be recognize it unless I have MacDrive installed. Any way to change it to a native Windows PC drive?
 

Nothinman

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For the 2TB drive you're probably better off finding a Mac to plug it into. Who knows how well the HFS+ drivers in MacDrive really are.

For th 1.5TB, it's probably using a GUID Partition Table which is only usable on certain versions of Windows. Since it's <2TB you might as well blow that away and recreate it with a legacy BIOS partition table.
 

Cerb

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Do you want to recover the data really bad, on a low/no budget?

Crash course in common home data recovery practices:

If you really want to recover the data, and don't want to risk that a fsck might destroy some of it, the first step will be to use a Linux live CD, or know more about how OS X can handle this sort of thing. This may be too high of a learning curve. If it's really important data, pay somebody to do this, and then invest in regular backups for the future.

After getting in as root, use "fdisk -l" to list drives and partitions, and use the output to find your bad one (it works best if you only have two drives, and know both of their sizes).

So, let's say /dev/sdb1 is your HFS+ partition, and /dev/sda1 is whatever you want to copy to, mounted as /media/disk (this will usually be the default location for the first disk mounted using a GUI file manager from Gnome or KDE).
/dev = device directory
sd = scsi/sata disk drive
letter = unique identifier of drive
number = partition number

dd if=/dev/sdb of=/media/disk/image.dd conv=sync,noerror
dd = low level copying application (why is it named dd? I dunno)
if= = input file. In this case, the entire hard disk drive.
of= = output file. In this case, a file on a healthy partition (the above would be the equivalent of saving to say H:\image.dd). The name and suffix don't matter, it's just common convention to add .img or .dd.
conv=sync,noerror = pads any blocks it can't read with zeros, so that offsets are maintained (yeah, why isn't this default behavior?), and keeps going upon encountering an error, on the off-chance something lower-level is wrong. conv is short for conversion, and some options do do things that make more sense as conversions. You can get a speed boost by omitting this, so I typically don't do it, unless I encounter an error, at which point I add it in for the second attempt. IoW, just this (but, if there is a drive error, the sync option will be difference between saving your data, and corrupting it):
dd if=/dev/sdb of=/media/disk/image.dd

It can be reversed, like so, to get the copied image back to the drive:
dd if=/media/disk/image.dd of=/dev/sdb

Verify the target device is correct several times, because screwing that up can be exceptionally bad.



Now, for the second drive, blow away the partitions, and make a new partition in Windows Vista or 7, using a legacy partition table. Then, make the following decision: NTFS or HFS+.

If you own, or can at least install any software onto, your Macs, just go with NTFS, and get Fuse for Mac (newer) or MacFuse (slightly more Mac polish, last I tried). NTFS is a rock solid file system, there are excellent free data recovery tools, and chkdsk generally does a good job when TSHTF. If you can't do that to your Macs, then you are stuck with what you've been doing. I would still use a modern Windows for the partitioning, in that case, but then use a Mac for the actual formatting.

Finally, don't go blaming Asus for your PC locking up. 99&#37; chance it's software, PSU, or RAM.
 
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Johnny Nuge

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I connected my 2TB to my friend's Mac last night. It was unable to repair the disk, but did allow limited access to the drive. What a relief. Good call nothinman.

I already knew I had to blow away the partition of the 1.5TB, but disk management in Windows 7 kept giving me an error every time I tried to delete the volume.

After trying a few programs, I found one called MiniTools Partition Magic. The 1.5TB is now a Windows NTFS drive using MBR. Now using MiniTool Damaged Partition Recovery on the 2TB disk. If that doesn't work, I can still recover the data using my friend's Mac. Cerb's data recovery crash course will be plan C.

Thanks everyone for your responses.
 

Cerb

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Well, that could, if you had 2TB of free space, get you a copy of the drive, so you can experiment w/o worry of destroying your data. If there isn't much data really on it, a compressed image might work, going to another 1-2TB drive (that gets a bit more involved).
 

SickBeast

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I second the notion that a Ubuntu live cd could solve this problem.

It might make you wonder what you were ever doing with a mac, though.
 

Johnny Nuge

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I'm definitely not a Mac guy. The only reason I had the drives in that HFS+ format was so I could easily grab video footage from friends... who all happen to have Macs.
 
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