Help with SK-6 Heat sink

Parstron

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I have an retail Athlon 1.4 with the stock HSF. This morning I replaced the stock heat sink with a Thermalright SK-6 heat sink and an 80 mm Enermax Fan. With the stock fan, I was getting 44 degrees idle and 48 to 50 under load. To my surprise, after I switched to the SK-6 the temp jumped to 52 idle and 58 under load. I must add that I used Arctic Silver II for both heath sinks. Can someone tell me if I missed a step? I must add that I did everything by the book and the heat sink makes a good contact with the core and I am not over clocking at this point.
 

cmyk

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Is it possible that the heatsink is not flat? I know that the sk6 does not have the greatest of finish.
 

Parstron

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The surface was machined and smooth but I didn't check for flatness. I will do that tomorrow and let you know.
 

Bglad

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First, is the clip on the right way? The pivot point of the clip is not in the center so that it positions directly above the die of the cpu. Make sure it is not on backwards.

The sk-6 is very dependent on case air-flow. That is likely your problem. Many people think slapping on a good heat sink alone will drop their temps way down. Its just not true.

Now, I'm saying this without knowing for sure because you didn't give ambient temp or your chipset temp or tell us what case you are using. My Duron is overclocked running at 1.8V and is pretty consistently about 15 degrees warmer than the chipset if that gives you some meaningless benchmark. Temps of both then rise and fall fairly evenly with room temp. If your cpu is a lot hotter than your chipset temp, you probably need to work on case airflow.

First thing I would try is running the machine with the case open and a fan blowing into it. See what your temps do then. If they go down, you can be sure that is the problem. If not, I would retrace your steps in installation of the heat sink.
 

serialb

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<< The sk-6 is very dependent on case air-flow. That is likely your problem. Many people think slapping on a good heat sink alone will drop their temps way down. Its just not true. >>



Very true. SK-6 is designed to have the fan blow towards the heatsink. If the air inside the case is hot, there will not be much cooling at all.

serialb
 

Parstron

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<< First thing I would try is running the machine with the case open and a fan blowing into it. See what your temps do then. If they go down, you can be sure that is the problem. If not, I would retrace your steps in installation of the heat sink. >>

Well, I have an Antec 635 with an Enermax 350 watter (two fans in the power supply) and one case fan. The air flow is adequate in the case. As matter of fact it only runs 1 degrees cooler with the case open. The point is before the SK-6 it was about 6 degrees cooler with the Stock heat sink which is supposed to be just adequate. Regarding the clip being backwards, I tried it both ways with the same results. My guess is for some reason the heat sink doesn't touch the core completely. I am going to recheck everything tomorrow to make sure I didn't make any mistakes.
 

Bglad

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Ok, I'm running an Antec 1040 and when I first installed my sk-6 (replacing a cheap Coolermaster) my temps didn't go down either. You need to install 2 more fans for intake in the front in that case so you have 2 blowing in in the front and the one blowing out the back. The fans in the power supply are there to cool the psu, not the case. They won't do a whole lot for your case, especially with the stock psu fans. Take my word for it, I've tested by replacing the fans in my power supply. Thats a big case that needs more fans to get air moving through it.

You can't just say your temps didn't go down when you added the sk-6. Thats my point. The sk-6 is better BUT ONLY if you have excellent air flow. If you don't, it won't be an improvement at all. Just opening the case may not do it either. I had 3 fans in my case (not including the psu) and I got an improvement by adding a fourth. Then I put in some dust filters and I even notice my temps go up several degrees when the dust filters get dirty. You have to get fresh cool air moving through that heat sink. The copper just holds heat otherwise.

One other thing to check if you are going to reseat it is don't overuse the Artic Silver. You really don't need much. I wrap my finger in plastic wrap and smear a very thin layer on. And I mean thin!!! Extra does not help, it hurts.

Lastly, I also tried an 80mm fan and found that it didn't work as well as a 60mm. I tried 80mm with and without a funnel. The 80mm moves more air but has less pressure. It also has a bigger hub in the center so if you're not using a funnel, more of the air leaks out the sides instead of being forced through the heatsink. I can't stress enough, you have to move lots of air through that heat sink. Thats why everyone runs delta fans on them for the very best performance. In fact, if you're not willing to work on airflow, it is probably not the best choice of heat sink. Others work better in situations with less air flow.

And you still haven't told us what your chipset tems are.
 

ku

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make sure the heatsink is on the right spot. It has a lot of leeway so it can stray from the core. this happend to me the first time i installed this (also to mention the first time i installed any heatsink) simply move the heatsink until the middle of it is placed directly over the core.
 

Austin5

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What is the cfm on that fan? I've tried differant fans on mine and if it's not blowing around 38 cfm, I noticed the temp would be about 2-3C higher.
 

Toro 45

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Sounds like you don't have it on right & the bend in the clip does need to be on center with the CPU core.
Make sure your SK-6 is not hitting the raised protion of the socket.

Check your fan speed with MBM & make sure it's spinning at the proper RPM.The SK-6 should outperform you retail fan/heatsink by a noticible amount.

Toro
 

Parstron

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<< Sounds like you don't have it on right & the bend in the clip does need to be on center with the CPU core.
Make sure your SK-6 is not hitting the raised portion of the socket.
Toro
>>

That was the problem. The heat sink was touching the raised portion of the socket , so it wasn?t making full contact with the CPU core. I moved the heat sink about 1/4 inch back also the fan was the type with the heat sensor which varies the RPM based on the sensor's temperature. I disconnected the heat sensor and now it is running at full RPM. Currently the case temp is 28 and the CPU is 39 at idle and 43 under load. Thank you for your help guys.
 

PhiI2e

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Bglad. I got a 1040, but I bought it w/out a PS, (sx1000) and slapped in an Enermax 431w. having 4 case fans (2 Sunon, and 2 Antec), an sK6, and that Enermax are like some kind of Magic combo....I get around 40c idle. Well I did split loom the entire inside but I dont think that helps.......
 
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