Helping conservatives with self inderstanding.

[Moonbeam]

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/15/inside_the_conservative_brain_what_explains_their_wiring/

How you see the world determines how you react to it. Here is a view of how conservatives perceive the world.

How accurate does it seem to you? What if your fundamental assumptions are wrong?

See if you can react to the link data and not to your feelings about me or don't as you wish.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Thank you for helping us inderstand your incessant need to troll.

Your vacation must really suck.

 

[Moonbeam]

Thank you for helping us inderstand your incessant need to troll.

Your vacation must really suck.

You shouldn't really blame me when you swim at 100 clicks to the surface and launch yourself into my boat. Sadly you didn't read the article. You are doubtless above such manure.

 

[Texashiker]

How you see the world determines how you react to it. Here is a view of how conservatives perceive the world.

How accurate does it seem to you? What if your fundamental assumptions are wrong?

Liberal: If you go to wikipedia and look up liberal, the definition is to be without bigotry, political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual.

The problem is, liberals are hypocrites.

Lets take the glbt and marriage equality movement as an example. How often does the glbt community mention Polygamy or Polyandry? Chances are rarely if ever.

Most people from the glbt community say marriage is between two people.

That makes the majority of the glbt hypocrites as they oppose being married to more than one person. As long as "they" can marry who they want, that is all they care about. When someone outside their accepted ideology wants to get married, the glbt community is opposed to it.

Conservative: Wikipedia defines Conservative as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions.

When a group of people such as the glbt community win equal rights, they will then be conservatives as they will oppose polygamy, polyandry and prostitution.

When the glbt community achieves their desired change, they will oppose further change, which will make them conservatives.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Ho hum!! The same ole article over and over. Please note how many views this thread has had without a reply.

Have fun on your imaginary vacation. I'm drinking cafe con leche with grated Mexican chocolate on top while watching the World Cup soccer matches.

 

[Zebo]

BS pigeon holing. About like when Conservative say they are makers dems are takers. Humans are way more complicated than study suggests and fall all over map and change depending on current curcumstance.

Good example of this is my dads best friend. Was wealthy as hell at one time. Owned an airline that shuffled oil workers around alaska. Anyway went broke after multiple divorces,not paying taxes (he claimed he was a sovereign citizen lol which is to say far far right) Now at around 70 he's liberal as hell.

 

[Moonbeam]

Liberal: If you go to wikipedia and look up liberal, the definition is to be without bigotry, political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual.

The problem is, liberals are hypocrites.

Lets take the glbt and marriage equality movement as an example. How often does the glbt community mention Polygamy or Polyandry? Chances are rarely if ever.

Most people from the glbt community say marriage is between two people.

That makes the majority of the glbt hypocrites as they oppose being married to more than one person. As long as "they" can marry who they want, that is all they care about. When someone outside their accepted ideology wants to get married, the glbt community is opposed to it.

Conservative: Wikipedia defines Conservative as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions.

When a group of people such as the glbt community win equal rights, they will then be conservatives as they will oppose polygamy, polyandry and prostitution.

When the glbt community achieves their desired change, they will oppose further change, which will make them conservatives.

What fundamental assumptions did you make and might they be wrong?

 

[Moonbeam]

BS pigeon holing. About like when Conservative say they are makers dems are takers. Humans are way more complicated than study suggests and fall all over map and change depending on current curcumstance.

Good example of this is my dads best friend. Was wealthy as hell at one time. Owned an airline that shuffled oil workers around alaska. Anyway went broke after multiple divorces,not paying taxes (he claimed he was a sovereign citizen lol which is to say far far right) Now at around 70 he's liberal as hell.

Why is it bs pigeon holing? One of your basic tenets, it seems to me, is that both sides are pretty much the same, I objectively partisan. This has been studied scientifically and demonstrated not. To be true. How do you know the science is wrong. Could it be just an uninformed opinion baste on some unconscious need?

 

[bradley]

Does anyone else see articles like these as creepy forms of political eugenics? It's almost as if there's increasing social pressure disadvantageously to shutdown/kill half of your brain. As though there's even such a thing as a pure liberal or conservative... absolutely bizarre.

 

[Moonbeam]

Ho hum!! The same ole article over and over. Please note how many views this thread has had without a reply.

Have fun on your imaginary vacation. I'm drinking cafe con leche with grated Mexican chocolate on top while watching the World Cup soccer matches.

Thanks for stopping by. Enjoy the games. Come back any time if you feel a need to take a other shit.

 

[Zebo]

Why is it bs pigeon holing? One of your basic tenets, it seems to me, is that both sides are pretty much the same, I objectively partisan. This has been studied scientifically and demonstrated not. To be true. How do you know the science is wrong. Could it be just an uninformed opinion baste on some unconscious need?

No not the same. My argument is two fold. One that people change over time. Two that you can fall on both sides. For example many liberals are pro gun as you can get whole others are terrified of them.

Pigeon holing is when you try and group ppl. e.g. all blacks are criminals ,all muslims are fundis, all conservatives are fearful. I dont like it. People are people.

 

[Moonbeam]

Does anyone else see articles like these as creepy forms of political eugenics? It's almost as if there's increasing social pressure disadvantageously to shutdown/kill half of your brain. As though there's even such a thing as a pure liberal or conservative... absolutely bizarre.

Science is just applied liberal thinking in my opinion and so what I see is a scientific attempt to understand what is simply irrational and bizarre. Conservatives, with their excessive fears that cause repressed rage are always projecting their hate with the suspicion they are targets of eugenics. Naturally everybody wants to see them dead because they create what they fear. Paranoids have a way of targeting themselves by being assholes to live out a life of vicarious feelings of persecution. They make everybody around them sick. Not their fault though. They are unconscious of all of it.

 

[Moonbeam]

No not the same. My argument is two fold. One that people change over time. Two that you can fall on both sides. For example many liberals are pro gun as you can get whole others are terrified of them.

Pigeon holing is when you try and group ppl. e.g. all blacks are criminals ,all muslims are fundis, all conservatives are fearful. I dont like it. People are people.

If what you don't like makes for what is false, that is quite a gift. The things you describe about folk changing or falling in different places is all true, but we ate talking scientifically measurable generalities. I think of myself, for example, as very conservative and of course in all the right ways.

 

[justoh]

Good timing with this. He said, ironically.

 

[BoberFett]

Come back any time if you feel a need to take a other shit.

Moonbeam threads are by definition the best place to take a shit.

 

[Greenman]

I didn't read the article because I didn't want to hate myself anymore.

 

[Anarchist420]

Liberal: If you go to wikipedia and look up liberal, the definition is to be without bigotry, political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual. The problem is, liberals are hypocrites. Lets take the glbt and marriage equality movement as an example. How often does the glbt community mention Polygamy or Polyandry? Chances are rarely if ever. Most people from the glbt community say marriage is between two people. That makes the majority of the glbt hypocrites as they oppose being married to more than one person. As long as "they" can marry who they want, that is all they care about. When someone outside their accepted ideology wants to get married, the glbt community is opposed to it. Conservative: Wikipedia defines Conservative as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions. When a group of people such as the glbt community win equal rights, they will then be conservatives as they will oppose polygamy, polyandry and prostitution. When the glbt community achieves their desired change, they will oppose further change, which will make them conservatives.

+100 points.. it seems to me the "equality movement" doesnt have much more problem with the income tax, standing armies, and bans on polyandry and polygamy than the average person does

 

[Moonbeam]

I didn't read the article because I didn't want to hate myself anymore.

So do you want to stop hating your self, or just not hate yourself anymore than you already do, as if that were possible?

 

[Moonbeam]

Moonbeam threads are by definition the best place to take a shit.

So true. I have a very large garden that needs constant fertilizing and I can always count on the ones most full of it to oblige. Thank you!

 

[Texashiker]

What fundamental assumptions did you make

Deep down, everyone is a bigot. We just have to dig a little deeper with some people.

and might they be wrong?

History proves me right.

People only want change until their personal values are threatened.

 

[MongGrel]

There is no black and white in life, go figure that one out.

I'm a Conservative Liberal more or less.

People trying to say you're either this or that is BS to begin with.

 

[Moonbeam]

Deep down, everyone is a bigot. We just have to dig a little deeper with some people.




History proves me right.

People only want change until their personal values are threatened.

Deep down you assume that what motivates you motivates everybody else, and you do so without the slightest idea as to what your motivations are.

History for you is what you imagine history to be.

 

[MongGrel]

As far as my views go I'm probably closer to this than anything.

Blue Dog Coalition



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

 

[Zebo]

I go to treating others as I would like to be treated party. Only good thing out of that bible not sure if it was orginal material though.

 

[ivwshane]

I found it to be an interesting read. I do find the premise that one of the studies was absolute based on the sweat response. Pavlov himself was able to show how you can affect involuntary responses. So I would say that right wing thinking and liberal thinking can indeed be changed.

Other than that, I like the many examples provided both current and historical.