Here comes the 10TB HGST beasts!

Compman55

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Its about time we make more gains. This truly will be great. I wonder what the intro price will be.
 

yinan

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When are >6 TB drives actually supposed to be purchasable? I want to make my backup server into a SFF box.
 

boed

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When are >6 TB drives actually supposed to be purchasable? I want to make my backup server into a SFF box.

A rumor is that the 8TB drives from Seagate are being tested by big customers and they may be ready by December for standard distribution. No idea on the new helium drives though.
 

fleshconsumed

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ROFL and I just upgraded my fileserver to 4TB drives 9 months ago. Well, at least it's good that there is a path to upgrade from 4TB now. Hopefully, but the time I do need to upgrade the prices will come down to a reasonable level.
 

master_shake_

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hmm 100tb's just got easy!

might even see a petabyte soon.

and here i am rocking 28 2tb drives like a common peasant.
 

Elixer

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These new HDs with SMR looks to have some massive latency times, which is why they want these for cloud storage, and that is pretty much it.

HAMR is the one that would be for desktop use.
 

Dahak

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10TB is insane. though imagine if it ever crashed. sooo much data lost.

That is true, if using this in a home or small office environment, i would at least say run in mirrored.

But they are more targeted to cloud/large datacenter storage vs home use
 

Darksinnder

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That is true, if using this in a home or small office environment, i would at least say run in mirrored.

But they are more targeted to cloud/large datacenter storage vs home use


true, but you know you will get those select few that go... "10TB 1 drive heck yeah" for home use.
 

Red Squirrel

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Do typical controllers support drives this big? I know some don't support more than like 3TB or something like that, what is the next limit after that?

These would make an awesome raid array. I'd want at least 6 though to do a proper array. (raid 10). Though, a raid 5 would be very tempting. LOL.

Though I don't think they're very fast because of SMR so they may be better suited as backup drives. In fact I could backup a good chunk of my home environment on one of these. Could buy a couple to use as part of my regular backup rotation.

I'm still rocking an array with 1TB drives lol... I think it will be time to retire those soon.
 

Jeff7

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I wonder how long that helium seal is good for? Helium is generally a tricky thing to keep contained. Tiny, noble atoms think they're too good for containment.




I don't suppose they have data published on the uncorrectable read error rates? A Google search for "smr helioseal uncorrectable read error" yields an rare zero results.



Edit: Here we go, this PDF is for the 6TB drive.
Non-recoverable error rate: 1 in 10^15 bits

One 6TB drive: 48,000,000,000,000 bits (I don't know what other bits might be added for internal parity storage.)
And 10TB: 80,000,000,000,000 bits

10^15 = 1,000,000,000,000,000



So...I'm not versed in prob&stat anymore. How likely will it be that reading just a single full drive will end up giving an unrecoverable read error?
 
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WhoBeDaPlaya

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Hope these become reliable and available soon.
Rocking dual (16x 4TB) setups now (separated by 1K miles) and would love to get more storage.
 

Soulkeeper

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archiving my DVDs as VOBs filled up my 3TB drive fast ...
I've been transcoding for a week straight trying to free up some space

And my Dvd collection isn't even bigger than 1 shelf ...
I could easily see someone filling up a 10TB drive if they're into movies
These things interest me, I look forward to the reviews and consumer availability
 

boed

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You always find a way to fill the space.


You've got almost double the space I have on one of my computers - I have 2 identical computers that are dupes. Mind if I ask what you have? I have 6x6TB in RAID 5 for now.
 

Gigantopithecus

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I don't need a 10TB HDD yet but I would appreciate less expensive 6TB HDDs, which hopefully 10TB HDDs will facilitate.
 

ronbo613

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i have a hard time filling 30Gb ...
I have a video/graphics editing rig with about 30TB of assorted storage and could always use more. An average day of shooting video and/or photos is about 5-10G. Double or triple that while editing and it adds up quick.

10TB HDs would be great, but I have to agree with the other posters about losing data with a hard drive failure so I would want at least two or three.

Hard drives always seem huge when you buy them and not big enough when you buy the next one...
 

Insert_Nickname

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Hard drives always seem huge when you buy them and not big enough when you buy the next one...

You can say that again. Back in 2000 when bought my massive 20GB Quantum Fireball Plus LM, I never thought I'd fill it up.

Fast-forward 14 years, we're talking 10TB HDDs, an my picture folder alone is 44GB... :hmm:

Amazing...
 
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