Here is proof blacks can't be racist

[TerryMathews]

People make up a community. To say that it's a community's belief means that you believe the majority of people believe that and the ones who don't are outliers.

I believe that a vocal minority believes that and that the majority, while being more reasonable, are complicit via their silence.

And why not? The white community is constantly held to task for not ostracizing white supremacist views. Why should the black community not be held to the same standard? That is the very definition of equality.

Ignorance is, with treatment.

I'm not following you here, are you equating black with ignorant?

 

[cubby1223]

No, the OP and that guy are dead serious.

How sure are you of that?

I think its stupid to watch a video of a white child getting beat up by brown people and immediately trying to pull the white victim card.

If you also believe it is stupid to play the racism card when anything even slightly negative happens to a black person, then you would be in full agreement with most people on this forum.

Why is it that only certain posters are allowed to race bait on P&N and others are not? BRB, let me go find a non-story and claim its racism. See how quickly it gets shut down.

Just search the history of this forum, there are *plenty* of non-stories claimed as racism that were not shut down. Plenty.

 

[Rakehellion]

And why not? The white community is constantly held to task for not ostracizing white supremacist views. Why should the black community not be held to the same standard? That is the very definition of equality.

To repay racism with racism is not progress, but apparently you'll find any reason to justify your bigotry.

 

[ciba]

If this is the video of the teenagers beating up on the 13 year old, it had nothing to do with race. The kid they beat up snitched on them (concerning drugs) and they were pissed off and giving him payback. That is all it was.

So the black kids didn't beat him up over race, but over drugs? You're saying that as if it's a better stereotype?

 

[TerryMathews]

To repay racism with racism is not progress, but apparently you'll find any reason to justify your bigotry.

Your comment doesn't even make sense.

 

[Rakehellion]

Your comment doesn't even make sense.

I know. The concept of race neutrality boggles your little mind.

 

[piasabird]

They are just criminals.

 

[TerryMathews]

I know. The concept of race neutrality boggles your little mind.

Right. :sly:

 

[Svnla]

So you're racist, but it's okay because your racism is justified? Everyone thinks they're doing the right thing. Hating people of a certain color isn't.

And just because X% of people committing crimes fit a certain description, doesn't meant that X% of people who fit that description are committing crimes. Most people aren't committing crimes.

So are you calling the NYPD Commissioner and NYC Mayor as racists? Because they both approved and still are approving that policy. Are they hating blacks or because the MAJORITY of violent in NYC are done by black males? Which is which?

Your statement was about "disportionately targeted" and I gave the readers the exact reason why NYPD did what they did and to debunk your statement. Care to provide link or source to dispute that stat of "70 percent to 75 percent of the people described as committing violent crimes" are done by certain demographic - is it true or not or just close your eyes and ears and keep yelling "rrrrrrraaaaaaaaaacccccccciiiiiiiiiisssssttttt"? :awe:

 

[SheHateMe]

That's called racial profiling. Wanting to stop more blacks because you think you aren't meeting your quota based on previous statistics is racial profiling.

Saying that you believe that blacks are actually "under-stopped" sounds ridiculously discriminatory. Operating on the belief that if you stop more of us because we fit a description will in turn boost your arrest rates to where you feel they should be is racial profiling and it is wrong, mmkay?


The incredibly unimpressive success rate of stop and frisk is a prime example. Not all black people are criminals.

Where did anyone say that all blacks are prone to this behavior?

I said that the black community's belief that snitches get stitches is disgusting. I didn't say every single black person believes that, but clearly some do. Unless you would like to dispute that?

WHOA! Time out!

Was that a flop? I thought you said they beat the kid up because he was white? Now, you are saying its because of the black community's belief that snitches get stitches?

So, you mean that snitches get their asses beat indiscriminately....regardless of race? Woahoho!




...and I'll let that hasty generalization of blacks slide, too. Despite you claiming that isn't what you did. It was, and Rakehellion rightfully called you on it. I love it when yall pretend to be race experts. Yall should just get together and write a book about us.

 

[Rakehellion]

So are you calling the NYPD Commissioner and NYC Mayor as racists?

Yes. Obviously.

Are they hating blacks

Yes. Obviously.

the MAJORITY of violent in NYC are done by black males? Which is which?

The majority of black males do not commit crimes.

Should we start arresting everyone in possession of a gun because 100% of gun crimes are committed by gun owners?

 

[SheHateMe]

Hey, hey, Rake.

Racial profiling is OK so long as we meet our arrest quotas. The crime statistics for blacks have to match every year, so, if last year they committed more crimes but they aren't this year...we have to make sure we get them on...something.

 

[Svnla]

Yes. Obviously. Yes. Obviously.

The majority of black males do not commit crimes.

Should we start arresting everyone in possession of a gun because 100% of gun crimes are committed by gun owners?

Well then that's your opinion of those two guys as racist. Better go and file a complain with NYC NAACP. Better yet, ask Obama and Holden to investigate Commissioner Kelly and Mayor Bloomberg for civil right violation and other bullcrap/made up charges as they plan to do with Zimmerman.

Read the article again. Seventy to seven five percent of violent crimes in NYC are done by black males, NOT 70 to 75% of black males in NYC are violent criminals. Not too hard to understand.

Here is the stat again just in case you forgot.

"It makes no sense to use census data, because half the people you stop would be women," Kelly said. "About 70 percent to 75 percent of the people described as committing violent crimes -- assault, robbery, shootings, grand larceny -- are described as being African American.

"The percentage of people who are stopped is 53 percent African American," he continued. "So really, African Americans are being under stopped in relation to the percentage of people being described as being the perpetrators of violent crime. The stark reality is that a crime happens in communities of color."

No where in the article that Commissioner Kelly said anything about the majority of black males in NYC commit crimes. He said the MAJORITY of VIOLENT CRIMES ARE DONE BY BLACK MALES.

Still no link/source to dispute those facts/stats from the article? So much for "disportionately targeted" as you stated in your post above. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Very simple to understand. Stop the blame on everything under the sun for self inflicted wounds.

 

[SheHateMe]

Stop and Frisk disproportionately targets blacks because they fit a description (Rakehellion's argument). Stop and Frisk is racial profiling, as the article clearly lays out. Its a controversial policy since it DOES operate off of the assumption that all black people are up to no good. Proactive Profiling, Racial Profiling...tomato, tomatoe. Its a racist policy.

As the two officials stated, they think that blacks are actually under-stopped...which means they feel that they aren't profiling blacks enough since their numbers out coming out how they want them to.

If you support this policy, then you are also aligning yourself with people who think that all blacks are up to no good. As Rake stated, X% of crimes may be committed by blacks in NYC, but that doesn't mean that x% of blacks are criminals.

Very simple to understand from just reading the article.

They are using reported crime statistics to back up why they are profiling. They aren't getting enough blacks during their stops to support their reported crime stats. Again....simple to understand as racial profiling.

 

[Linux23]

http://www.thehouseilivein.org/

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[Rakehellion]

NOT 70 to 75% of black males in NYC are violent criminals.

Exactly. Which means Stop and Frisk is ineffective. Glad we agree.

 

[Svnla]

Exactly. Which means Stop and Frisk is ineffective. Glad we agree.

NO!!! I do not agree with you, expressed or implied.

If you are going to quote me, at least try to be honest and quote the WHOLE thing instead of be cowardice, cherry pick to spin my statements (as you tried for than once in this thread). I did not say that!!! :thumbsdown:

This is what you should quote:

Read the article again. Seventy to seven five percent of violent crimes in NYC are done by black males, NOT 70 to 75% of black males in NYC are violent criminals.

In summary, in your previous post, you whine about "disportionally targeted" and I provided you a link with NYPD Commissioner Kelly statements about the true reason and it really was underpresented with stop and frisk policy, not as you said. In other word, I dispute your statement with a valid link. You should try to do the same by provide a link or two to dispute my link but so far, you still could not.

Still nothing to debunk that stat? Yup, nada, zip, nothing, not a thing. Since you can't provide anything to dispute my link, therefore, you concede to me. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, with a link or two.

If you can't or rather unable to acknowlege the validity of my link to debunk of your statement, we have nothing else to say. Nice try to troll.

 

[SheHateMe]

Finally, Stop and Frisk ends

Just debate here. These people know what Stop and Frisk means.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Fucking animals.