Here is the great idea!!!

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: johngute
http://www.trimble.com/vtsys_sysinvehhardware.shtml

Too much hardware. My product would be fully intergrated into one device running Windows Mobile.

doesn't matter if it's too much hardware, the fact is that it's been done many times over.

oringinally by minendo
Legally, it would be quite difficult to get your idea off the ground. Such devices that allow someone to keep tabs on a trucker (for example, a tracking device) are not permitted.

untrue. they have these white domes that sit on top of trucks that locate the drivers and tell them if their off course. ALSO they have this new invention called RFID that helps to ID packages (which are on a truck) and see if they're on schedule.

 

[jjessico]

Those units have input because they are dual/role. In other words when they are not hooked up to the satellite system that is installed on the cab of the truck, they are taken from the truck by the driver to scan packages in order to provide tracking details or to take pictures of damanged freight.

You are right, those units to do not have built in GPS. However that's not needed because they hook up to the GPS/Sat-comm unit on the truck. Where you are wrong, is that they *do* have 'truck integration'.

 

[Duddy]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: johngute
http://www.trimble.com/vtsys_sysinvehhardware.shtml

Too much hardware. My product would be fully intergrated into one device running Windows Mobile.

doesn't matter if it's too much hardware, the fact is that it's been done many times over.



I see that it has been done once, and the solution is clunky and doesn't have the features my product has.

Also, where is the method for automatically importing route information into a company's payroll system?

 

[totalcommand]

have you filed a patent for this? that will be the test of whether your idea is truly unique.

if you haven't filed a patent, and decided to leak your idea on ATOT, i feel very sorry for you. might as well stop now.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: johngute
http://www.trimble.com/vtsys_sysinvehhardware.shtml

Too much hardware. My product would be fully intergrated into one device running Windows Mobile.

doesn't matter if it's too much hardware, the fact is that it's been done many times over.



I see that it has been done once, and the solution is clunky and doesn't have the features my product has.

to save yourself from millions of dollars in lawsuits and having a patent attorny coming back to say it's been done before, how about you move on to another invnetino. also, why would you have a problem finding capital ... i thought your dad is making $260k. any smart business man that's bringing in that much money can give up a little of their net for 1 year to help their son get an idea patented which will inturn bring in his money back with interest.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: minendo
Legally, it would be quite difficult to get your idea off the ground. Such devices that allow someone to keep tabs on a trucker (for example, a tracking device) are not permitted.

Sorry, OP, you've been beaten by quite a bit. Also, minendo, I don't believe you are correct. There are already systems that will allow the company to know right where a truck is, and how fast it's going. Many companies *DO* have tracking devices. (I believe Strohman's bakery is one example.) And, before your R&D gets too far on some of the other things you're integrating, skip the one for gas mileage. Diesel mileage would be more useful

 

[Duddy]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: johngute
http://www.trimble.com/vtsys_sysinvehhardware.shtml

Too much hardware. My product would be fully intergrated into one device running Windows Mobile.

doesn't matter if it's too much hardware, the fact is that it's been done many times over.



I see that it has been done once, and the solution is clunky and doesn't have the features my product has.

to save yourself from millions of dollars in lawsuits and having a patent attorny coming back to say it's been done before, how about you move on to another invnetino. also, why would you have a problem finding capital ... i thought your dad is making $260k. any smart business man that's bringing in that much money can give up a little of their net for 1 year to help their son get an idea patented which will inturn bring in his money back with interest.

He doesn't fully feel it would be a good investment. Besides, he wants me to get my Masters first. And that is a good 6 to 7 years out.

How do you figure there would be lawsuits? I simple patent search would suffice.

 

[jjessico]

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: johngute
http://www.trimble.com/vtsys_sysinvehhardware.shtml

Too much hardware. My product would be fully intergrated into one device running Windows Mobile.

doesn't matter if it's too much hardware, the fact is that it's been done many times over.



I see that it has been done once, and the solution is clunky and doesn't have the features my product has.

Also, where is the method for automatically importing route information into a company's payroll system?

That is why there is input/output and a base unit hookup for data transmission on the Handheld Products and Symbol units. It also integrates data with the billing system to provide for more accurate rate determination for shipments.

Let me put it this way. There are already a few units, that I know about, available on the market that are capable of handling information for trucking companies. This is not to say that these designs cannot be improved upon. Also, I'm not trying to be mean, or shoot your idea down, but I think its important that you know what is already out there. Many freight companies already use electronic tracking systems.

 

[Duddy]

Originally posted by: jjessico

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: johngute
http://www.trimble.com/vtsys_sysinvehhardware.shtml

Too much hardware. My product would be fully intergrated into one device running Windows Mobile.

doesn't matter if it's too much hardware, the fact is that it's been done many times over.



I see that it has been done once, and the solution is clunky and doesn't have the features my product has.

Also, where is the method for automatically importing route information into a company's payroll system?

That is why there is input/output and a base unit hookup for data transmission on the Handheld Products and Symbol units. It also integrates data with the billing system to provide for more accurate rate determination for shipments.

Let me put it this way. There are already a few units, that I know about, available on the market that are capable of handling information for trucking companies. This is not to say that these designs cannot be improved upon. Also, I'm not trying to be mean, or shoot your idea down, but I think its important that you know what is already out there. Many freight companies already use electronic tracking systems.

Your right, I think they need better marketing though.

There is room for improvement for those devices, but that is best left to someone who has the time and money to do it.

Basic business: Come up with innovations, not improvements of innovations.

I guess I'll have to move onto my other ideas.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: johngute
http://www.trimble.com/vtsys_sysinvehhardware.shtml

Too much hardware. My product would be fully intergrated into one device running Windows Mobile.

doesn't matter if it's too much hardware, the fact is that it's been done many times over.



I see that it has been done once, and the solution is clunky and doesn't have the features my product has.

Also, where is the method for automatically importing route information into a company's payroll system?

So you've got an idea, no company to build it, no product, and no money.

You've got a competitor that's got a company, a product that does 80% of what yours will do, and money and income to work with.

5 years from now, after you've built a product and a company and are ready to put your system on sale, where do you think your competitor will be? They can certainly get from where they're at currently to where you're going a lot faster than you can.

 

[DrPizza]

here
There's one company that tracks its trucks... apparently, minendo, it's not illegal.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
here
There's one company that tracks its trucks... apparently, minendo, it's not illegal.

I worded my initial post wrong. Sure you can track company property, but do you know how many truckers are out there that actually own their own tractor. They can't be required to use a GPS system.

 

[DrPizza]

OP, read this article: here

Pretty much everything you've mentioned is already available in one integrated unit. Wow, you said you did a patent search online? A google search found it quite quickly.

 

[DrPizza]

Oh, I should add, the current systems do everything you had thought of them doing, AND MORE! Additionally, they track maintenance schedules, repairs, problems some of the trucks have repeatedly,...

 

[spunkz]

what happened to "i already have investments from major companies such as Coca-Cola and Budweiser"?

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: spunkz
what happened to "i already have investments from major companies such as Coca-Cola and Budweiser"?

lol, yeah. he edited his post that said that and then, as the end of his other thread, admitted to lying just to get attention.

 

[Rubycon]

I'm an entertainment director on a cruise ship 89 miles offshore currently and even I know you're a day late and a dollar a mile short.

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[jumpr]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: DrPizza
here
There's one company that tracks its trucks... apparently, minendo, it's not illegal.

I worded my initial post wrong. Sure you can track company property, but do you know how many truckers are out there that actually own their own tractor. They can't be required to use a GPS system.

As a private business, you can require anything you want, even for owner-operators. If the owner-operators don't want a receiver/transmitter on top of their trucks, they don't have to work for you. It's that simple.

We live in a free country - tracking your property or property that's contracted to you is perfectly fine, as long as there's full disclosure to both parties about what's being tracked.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

this has been a reality for years....

 

[JLGatsby]

I haven't read the replies of this thread yet, but I'm sure they say "already been done, moron."

Because it has already been done.

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: tami
Eh, first develop it and build out very specific specifications. then have your people review it with a programmer who can build software. then you need to eploy it in alpha, beta, and final stages. then you have to mass produce.

you need an excellent writeup of your idea, capital, and the means of going about doing this. it shouldn't look like a little laptop hanging out of a truck. it should be crafted in a unique way.

you're talking about years of work if you want a flawless piece of software/hardware+truck.

bear in mind that very few entrepreneurs ever act upon their excellent ideas. I'd be quite surprised if you follow through. (I also speak for myself in this capacity as i've had some great ideas but haven't followed through with them either.)

but good luck.

I just got off the phone with my friends boss. He said it is definatly needed and that it sounded too good to be true.

Your right though, I need someone to invest in this. I believe that if I work hard enough I manage the resources, I can ship the final product within 5 years. But it will take dedication. I would hate to come out of college without my Masters to devote my time to the project, but in the long run, it would be very profitable.

*sigh* I wish it was easier.

well, now that you have an idea that you feel can surpass other existing ideas (JLGatsby, don't call someone a moron for proposing something that he feels may actually take off), work on it. again, it's NOT easy and it will take a lot of dedication and commitment on your part. don't be swayed by obstacles. don't think that a rejection from your first investor means that you have no hope. you have to be persistent and your determination will pay off -- if the product is really needed.

if this really is better than existing ideas (i didn't do my research), you'll need to market it as such. by saying "yes, it's integrated," you're acknowledging that it is -- but you need, more importantly, to show WHY it's better and WHY people should buy your product.

in the end, if you pull through, you have an advantage over other companies in that you will specialize in this product only (in which case you're not selling a variety of products and should have the knowledge of what you are doing inside-out). but you have to get there first -- and that's where you have to be very persistent.

 

[Eltano1]

I work for a major Transportation Company and we have that systems for years, OBC (On Board Computers) and GPS installed on most of our trucks.

Eltano

 

[imported_electron]

You didn't know this was already implemented by UPS, FedEx, and the like for years now? FFS we could solve the drought problem in every desert on earth with the wetness behind your ears.

 

[UncleWai]

Duddy must be crying in a corner somewhere now just like the kid in American Inventor.

 

[her209]

Hahahaha... haven't you seen the commercial where the two trucker guys are driving to Fresno and got lost. They stop when they see a lady sitting in the middle of the road at a desk. She tells them they are going to Albuquerque, NM. RFID FTW!