Here is the wise and great Senator Feinstein of CA's Assault Weapon Ban proposal

[Darwin333]

I'm okay with that.

Typically, if someone has money, they're not going out and mugging strangers. Cheap guns make it too easy for common criminals, who are criminals because they can't hold regular jobs otherwise.

So you are ok with only the rich and powerful being able to defend themselves while the other 99.9% of society, most of which are law abiding citizens, are shit out of luck? Ironically the rich and powerful are usually the ones that need it the least because they can afford to hire people to provide their security. The rest of us, well the cops will show up and draw an outline around your body I guess....

 

[micrometers]

So you are ok with only the rich and powerful being able to defend themselves while the other 99.9% of society, most of which are law abiding citizens, are shit out of luck? Ironically the rich and powerful are usually the ones that need it the least because they can afford to hire people to provide their security. The rest of us, well the cops will show up and draw an outline around your body I guess....

No.

But I am against cheap guns that even the bottom 10% can afford.

Since the bottom 10% are going to be the ones who commit the most crimes, robberies and murders.

And yes, blah blah they need protection, well, not really. They don't have anything worth stealing.

 

[chucky2]

Fine but how does the police patrolling work? Is there different units doing patrols a other complaints or is it there just units covering both? Because if police were visible why do people still feel unsafe and walk around armed to the teeth?

I'm going to assume this isn't sarcasm and my sarcasm meter isn't busted, or, you're not trolling...

...but, are you serious? Have you ever heard the expresssion "When seconds count, the police are but minutes away"? There are areas of Chicago and its suburbs where at night the police won't even show up to certain block sections unless they roll up 2, 3, 4, whatever deep. How many police do you think it'd take to get 'police presence' like what you're talking about? How expensive is that? How effective is that?

You know what's effective? Carrying what you can reliably and accurately shoot with hollowpoints, and for home use, 12-guage. You can call the police when you know whoever is downstairs at 2AM going through all your shit is for d@mn sure going to be stopped when they try and come up the stairs to where your family is.

You cannot solve a people problem by banning things that a.) effectively won't be unavailable and b.) continuing to not address your people problem.

Witness delusionals suggesting that if only the rest of the US were like Chicago, Chicago wouldn't have its gun death rate problem. Yeah...No...

Chuck

 

[chucky2]

No.

But I am against cheap guns that even the bottom 10% can afford.

Since the bottom 10% are going to be the ones who commit the most crimes, robberies and murders.

And yes, blah blah they need protection, well, not really. They don't have anything worth stealing.

I am seriously debating whether to report this to the Mods as a case of trolling. No one, and I mean, no one, could be this dumb. Please tell us you were just making a funny, and that chuckys sarcasm meter is busted.

 

[Darwin333]

That's the thing though...teach their kids. The majority of parents today don't have time for their kids, and after years of that, the kids don't have time for them either. Different times...people learn to not respect things now, they just take it for granted it won't F with them. And then they/we learn the hard way that mechanical things just don't care that the times have changed...

While I don't disagree with what you said, I have personally seen something a bit different. I have seen gun owning parents "afraid" to introduce their children to firearms. So instead of showing the kids their gun, teaching them about it and what to do if they should come across a gun they hide it from them. One of my friends makes a beeline to his bedroom as soon as he gets home to put his pistol in his bedisde drawer before his 9 year old son can see it. I have always thought that is the exact opposite of what you should do. I started teaching my daughter about guns at 4 and haven't stopped yet. When she was 5 her cousin came over to play and brought a toy gun that she thought was real. As soon as she saw it she grabbed her cousin and drug him (literally kicking and screaming lmao) into the living room screaming "daddy daddy GUN". I truly hope that my friends son never finds his gun because I highly doubt the outcome will be the same despite the fact that he is almost double the age she was. BTW, I bought her first gun (.22 rifle) this year for Xmas because she asked me if she could come to the range with me. Most people look in horror when I say that I got my 11 year old a gun but quite frankly I trust her near me with a gun in hand a lot more than some adults.

Going by the picture posted in this thread alone, my 11 year old daughter knows more about gun safety than the Senator trying to ban guns for our safety.

 

[Darwin333]

No.

But I am against cheap guns that even the bottom 10% can afford.

Since the bottom 10% are going to be the ones who commit the most crimes, robberies and murders.

And yes, blah blah they need protection, well, not really. They don't have anything worth stealing.

LMFAO!!!! Perhaps you should do a little research into the demographics of the vast majority of people murdered in the US.

With that said, at least your stance on "cheap guns" sort of kinda makes sense if your goal is to prevent murders from happening. I still don't think it would be all that effective but the fact is the VAST majority of murders are committed with dirt cheap handguns.

 

[Phanuel]

The rest of us, well the cops will show up and draw an outline around your body I guess....

Well, that does solve the only real problem that rich people have, all those poor people.

 

[TerryMathews]

No.

But I am against cheap guns that even the bottom 10% can afford.

Since the bottom 10% are going to be the ones who commit the most crimes, robberies and murders.

And yes, blah blah they need protection, well, not really. They don't have anything worth stealing.

You embody the very ideals this country was founded to get away from: classes of citizens.

You want intentionally deprive a certain subset of the population their right to self defense based solely on social order.

You're sick.

 

[klinc]

I'm going to assume this isn't sarcasm and my sarcasm meter isn't busted, or, you're not trolling...

...but, are you serious? Have you ever heard the expresssion "When seconds count, the police are but minutes away"? There are areas of Chicago and its suburbs where at night the police won't even show up to certain block sections unless they roll up 2, 3, 4, whatever deep. How many police do you think it'd take to get 'police presence' like what you're talking about? How expensive is that? How effective is that?

You know what's effective? Carrying what you can reliably and accurately shoot with hollowpoints, and for home use, 12-guage. You can call the police when you know whoever is downstairs at 2AM going through all your shit is for d@mn sure going to be stopped when they try and come up the stairs to where your family is.

You cannot solve a people problem by banning things that a.) effectively won't be unavailable and b.) continuing to not address your people problem.

Witness delusionals suggesting that if only the rest of the US were like Chicago, Chicago wouldn't have its gun death rate problem. Yeah...No...

Chuck

I am not being sarcastic just being curious how the US policing work and how they devide their units. I don't think you will find it funny if I make presumptions on 50 episodes of TJ Hooker which btw is still showing here on tv. I know reaction time is the important aspect that is why they have ours devided into a flying squad which only does reaction i.e. In progress crimes where they got to be there quick as possible. They drive the fast cars with advance driving skills normally. Then there is one that do only Armed Robbery's and drive Chev 5.8l and are armed to the teeth.

Then we have a mobile unit which will do patrolling and stopping in searching in their precinct area and police paypoints when people go and draw their pensions etc etc. Then there is just the guys who does complaints mostly as well as tasks of the mobile unit if they someone ask for assistance. It is a good idea but unfortunately you need massive man power to keep it up 24/7 so it will only be kept up at certain hours. Plus the criminal element is armed to the teeth and are not bother when the police show up. They even shot down a police helicopter once!

 

[monovillage]

No.

But I am against cheap guns that even the bottom 10% can afford.

Since the bottom 10% are going to be the ones who commit the most crimes, robberies and murders.

And yes, blah blah they need protection, well, not really. They don't have anything worth stealing.

Got to love the progressive/liberal mindset.

No.

But I am against cheap guns that even the bottom 10% can afford.

Since the bottom 10% are going to be the ones who commit the most crimes, robberies and murders.

And yes, blah blah they need protection, well, not really. They don't have anything worth stealing.

Quoted again just to savor the stupidity of an anti-gun Democrat, and I thought Tom was the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Agent11]

No.

But I am against cheap guns that even the bottom 10% can afford.

Since the bottom 10% are going to be the ones who commit the most crimes, robberies and murders.

And yes, blah blah they need protection, well, not really. They don't have anything worth stealing.

So you are saying poor people shouldn't have the right to protect themselves?

 

[monovillage]

So you are saying poor people shouldn't have the right to protect themselves?

It's what he said, and poor women just need to submit to rape. Only wealthy people should be able to protect themselves.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journa...ity-Over-Mayor-Bloomberg-Gun-Control-Question

 

[Tom]

Got to love the progressive/liberal mindset.



Quoted again just to savor the stupidity of an anti-gun Democrat, and I thought Tom was the bottom of the barrel.

I'm not anti-gun. Let people buy guns with food stamps.

 

[micrometers]

Let's play a thought experiment:

What is the profile of the typical mugger? How much income do you think he has?

 

[monovillage]

Let's play a thought experiment:

What is the profile of the typical mugger? How much income do you think he has?

Let's play a different thought experiment:
What is the profile of the typical rapist?

 

[micrometers]

Let's play a different thought experiment:
What is the profile of the typical rapist?

Violent stranger? similar to the mugger. There are different types of rape, obviously.

 

[monovillage]

Violent stranger? similar to the mugger. There are different types of rape, obviously.

Not usually a stranger, but in my opinion even a poor woman should be able to have access to a firearm to protect herself.

 

[micrometers]

Not usually a stranger, but in my opinion even a poor woman should be able to have access to a firearm to protect herself.

You also mean that it should be easier for serial rapists to access weapons.

 

[xj0hnx]

You also mean that it should be easier for serial rapists to access weapons.

Criminals already have access to firearms, why do you hate women so much that you would deny them the ability to defend themselves?