here it is boys - PS3

[otispunkmeyer]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/05/09/sony_ps3_details_e3/

Sony has at last unveiled some of the final details of its PlayStation 3 console.

The PS3 will come in two versions - one with a 20GB hard drive and one with a 60GB hard drive. The 20GB version will lack a memory card reader, WiFi and a HDMI output. The lack of HDMI, in particular, is bad for the consumer - since it will mean the PS3 will be very little use as a Blu-Ray player, one of its major touted features. The 60GB version will have one, however.

The 20GB version will come in at $499 and the 60GB version at a whopping $599. In Europe, those prices convert straight to Euros - although no word on QueenLiz's Sterling just yet.

well 20gig, no wifi, no memory card reader and no HDMI making the Bluray abit useless is abit of a crap desicion, the 20gig one looks like a gaming only job.

its expensive too $599! whats the top xbox cost? like $300?

its out on november 17th, and it better be good to justify the price. 499 is alot for something that has no wifi, a small hd and cant really function as a BLU-RAY player.

EDIT UPDATE****


some hands on!
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/05/11/ps3_playtest/

and its not looking too good

Gran Turismo: Very little generally changes between the GT iterations when it comes to the actual nitty gritty of the racing gameplay, and the same is true here. The PS3 offers nothing by way of innovation, although we don't doubt that there are new game modes and tracks in there somewhere. The graphics are undoubtedly pretty nice - although, in our opinion, no better than Project Gotham 3 on the Xbox 360. If you are a massive GT fan, then you'll love this, but it's nothing new.

Virtua Tennis 3: Awesome. We're big fans of Sega's arcade racquet-em-up, and this looks like being the best version of it yet. Again, there is nothing new here apart from some shiny graphics. Unfortunately for Sony, Sega were showing off the game on the Xbox 360 on its own stand, and it actually looked better than the PS3 version.

well, the graphics on the much awaited GT5 seem to be nothing special, and virtua tennis supposedly looks better than the PS3 version...... oh dear. they keep saying how the games on show are simply nothing new....just looks nicer. they really really dig the nintendo Wii and the Wiimote though.




and some nintendo Wii playtesting

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/05/11/nintendo_wii_gameplay/

 

[otispunkmeyer]

also the controllers are exactly like the previous ones, only wireless and with no dual shock

 

[zephyrprime]

WTF? No dual shock? I have a wireless dualshock controller on my PS2 right now! And why is this thing so expensive? Cell yields must be horrible and bluray optics must cost a fortune.

 

[Genx87]

Who cares about Blu Ray anyways.

On Demand HD tv with HD-DVRs are about to make the DVD medium old technology.

 

[MechaSheeba]

Damn, I didn't know the 20GB version lacked wi-fi, card reader, and HDMI. I thought the only difference was the HD size.

 

[jiffylube1024]

The cards have a sort of mini-gyromotion sensor. Like Nintendo Revolute "lite" in terms of feel (so they say).

 

[Genx87]

btw that price is ridiculous, even more ridiculous for the budget version. 100 bucks more than the top of the line xBox 360 lmao.

 

[DaveyTN]

My TV only has a DVI input - no HDMI. Would I still be able to watch Blu Ray dvds? Would I need some sort of converter?

 

[aniruddha23]

Originally posted by: DaveyTN
My TV only has a DVI input - no HDMI. Would I still be able to watch Blu Ray dvds? Would I need some sort of converter?

HDMI to DVI Cable

think resoltution wise u wont be able to go above 1080i

 

[DaveyTN]

Thanks. If I get an HDMI to DVI cable - how would I get the sound to the TV (since DVI is video only). Do you think the PS3 will have like an audio out or something in addition to the HDMI?

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: DaveyTN
My TV only has a DVI input - no HDMI. Would I still be able to watch Blu Ray dvds? Would I need some sort of converter?

No, HDMI is completely Secure line. Besides the need for basic support of the whole AACS and such the end source is the one that is supposed to do the decoding. I don't know how that is handled or whether I am right or wrong on this manner, but basically AACS and DHCP are going to be required for bothe HD-DVD and Blu Ray with Toshiba taking a step back and not requireing it right away for HD media (upconverting still requires Digitally secure line). Blu-Ray might not as by the time it comes out, but if they go that oute it will destroy the reason they have so many Companies back them (less rights for you = more money for them). If that sticks then the low cost BR player becomes $600, even though the cheaper model technically has the player.

This will work for Sony one way, they can let their devlopers uses the 25GB of storeage for games, while Microsoft has to keep companies from using more the the 7.4 GB that DVD DL allows you to write. Eventually games will be labelled Xbox 360 HD only or such but Microsoft will want them to wait as long as possible before they do that. The do have the ability to do Multi disc though, and it will be a while before that bemos needed, so in the end BR in PS3 with No HDMI will be next to useless.

Edit: Sorry one use. Sony can still claim that those BR player count as BR players to win over more support as having the large market share even if HD leads in actually ability to play.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: aniruddha23

Originally posted by: DaveyTN
My TV only has a DVI input - no HDMI. Would I still be able to watch Blu Ray dvds? Would I need some sort of converter?

HDMI to DVI Cable

think resoltution wise u wont be able to go above 1080i

Not without HDCP support (specifically AACS)..... Everyone really needs to go through the true requirements for it as I am not really If and what hardware out there will actually end up supporting this in its entirity. Most DVI (I would honestly say all but one or two might exist somewhere) TVs don't support HDCP.

 

[Exsomnis]

Ah Sony, you're such stupid stupid fvcks, I am so glad that I boycott pretty much everything with your name on it except MP3 players. Your TVs are total crap, your online games are frigging comedy, your consoles are utterly crap-tastic, and your overall prices and quality of customer service are outrageous.

?391 for the basic one with no wi-fi and HD, hahahahahahahah!!! What a frigging joke! Hahahahahahaha ?469 for the proper one! LOL! For that price it better tidy the room and make fvcking breakfast too!

 

[chanfo]

The ps3 top line will be $599 vs the xbox premium at $399. A $200 difference, but the ps3 will come with a 60gb vs 20gb drive, blue ray drive built in vs an external addon for xbox which will probably price out to be $100++. Plus the ps3 will have hdmi built in whereas the xbox may or may not even have that option available as an add on.

 

[Exsomnis]

You mean it will actually have the things that make it worth buying over an X360? Well blow me down.

The problem is the price. $200 more is frigging rediculous considering that this thing is supposed to be competition for Microsoft.

 

[RobertR1]

I have my reservations about the Built In Blu Ray player...I'll wait to see it's IQ vs a standalone player. The DVD playback on the PS2 was less than ideal.

Oh btw, Sony were bragging about true 1080P. It's a guarantee that this wont' be the case with the standard package so don't expect 1080P games. Infact, I heard no mention of true 1080P that was being spammed endlessly 6months ago.

 

[darkswordsman17]

For some, $200 is worth it for the BD-ROM drive alone. I know that I wouldn't be purchasing a stand alone hi-def movie device unless it was $200 or less, and for the foreseeable future there aren't any.

I'm sure the IQ and possibly sound quality won't be up to the level of the $1000 players, but I still think it will be quite good, if for no other reason than the source being much better quality than with DVD. At this point it depends more on how good of decoding software is used, and how well Cell and the PS3 components do at handling the content. The early HD-DVD players look like they're using older Pentium 4s and basic RAM as their hardware, and while I don't buy into the hype about Cell being some wonderchip, I'm sure that between it, the very fast memory, and the GPU, that the PS3 should do a nice job decoding hi-def material. However, if they can't get the software to do a good job of allocating load, then it'll suffer.

So if the PS3 hardware is especially good at it, there's a possibility (pretty unlikely I admit) that it could end up with quality comparable to the high end players using older CPU technology, with the PS3's better decoding capability making up for its lower end components (DACs and things like that is what I mean by this).

I'm going to wait until closer to launch before I decide on the PS3. It has some promising features, but who knows how things will end up. Not to mention we've got this ugly HDCP and other things that I think still need to be sorted out.

 

[Alaa]

tekken 6 is not as expected i hope it gets better be4 release!

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: Alaa
tekken 6 is not as expected i hope it gets better be4 release!

When have games actually improved over their "tech demo's?" If it follows trend, HL2 and Oblivion being examples, more is cut out on the final release for whatever reason.

 

[chanfo]

Considering that currently standalone hd-dvd players are costing $500, you would expect the initial price of standalone BR players to cost about the same. If the quality of the video is decent on the ps3, I would presume a lot of A/V enthusiast will buy the ps3. The video gaming is just a bonus in this case. For me I'm hoping the ps3 will allow streaming of DVD vob files and other video media without a hack like is needed on the 360.

 

[dguy6789]

I suspect that this will be the generation where Microsoft takes the lead in the console market.

 

[crazylegs]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
I suspect that this will be the generation where Microsoft takes the lead in the console market.

i really really really hope not.... luved my ps2!

soo want the ps3 to rock but it looks like sony are fubaring it all up

 

[TraumaRN]

Somewhere, Bill Gates is smiling.

And laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Exsomnis
Your TVs are total crap

I have been using Sony Trinitron display devices (monitors / TVs) for the past 15 years. Never had one fail, always top image quality, my latest one was a Sony Wega that I bought about 4 years ago, still works great

 

[gi0rgi0]

I really wanted a PS3 but now that gta IV is 360 only and also the announcement of halo 3 I guess its sayonara sony.