"Why would I want to go back to being a newb?"
"They don't want people like you- honestly. You are a PC centric sort of gamer, Nin could care less about you. Let Windows and the 360 fight for your miniscule slice of the pie. Nin can not compete there, and there isn't much worth fighting over."
Isnt much worth fighting over? You ever do the math? How many PC GAMERS play WoW (Over Six Million?) This time please do the math before pulling out bogus facts, sure it may not be as huge a amount as the whole world, but anyone saying six million PAYING subscribors arent worth fighting over does not understand the point of running a business at all. Add to this the fact that those are all PC Gamers and probably a minority of PC Gamers (Overall) as most PC Gamers are not MMORPG players. Add to this your PC Centric theory, ok why do I own a Xbox and PS2? I have owned every console out almost since the Atari 2600, including the gamecube, N64, PS1, Turbo Grafix 16 and more. So please keep making incorrect assumptions, its amusing.
This is made all that much worse imo because a far superior device for 3d shooters already exists and has existed for over twenty years now. The mouse.
"I can only assume by this comment you have never actually fired a gun. As of this point I would say it is looking like the mouse has fallen to number three in terms of aiming devices- actual aiming device being first and a touch screen being second."
More fun facts proving you dont know what you are talking about. I have shot and owned tons of guns, my father owns roughly forty rifles right now. Been shooting them since I was about seven, (When I got my first .22). I have shot and owned everything from a H&K Assault Rifle, Mak 90 (Very similar to a AK-47), Desert Eagle .357, to a old ninteen hundreds single shot .22 that weighed hardly anything. So please pull some more bogus numbers out. Pointing devices are not as good for games. Several reasons, not the least of which so many console pointing games dont have a crosshair or a decent set of sights on the device. You ever try pointing from your hip, not aiming down the sights at something and hitting it. Its hard as heck to do, and made even harder when you dont have a visual que as to what your aiming at (As in no CROSSHAIR). So please this is not pointing a rifle at the target, its more like holding a remote and making the remote hit a target that you have no reference as to if you are close are not until you do. So alot of wondering around going on I am sure.
"Dont believe me? I will take anyone on anytime with my mouse keyboard vs this gyro junk.
Sure thing, let's go to the local firing range and see those mad skillz display themselves "
I would love to anytime, Dirty Johns shooting range is about thirty mins away. I have outshot several people with scopes, and that was me without a scope. Put shots at a hundred yards almost exactly through the same bullet hole, so lets talk about those made skillz some more, Mr. Know it All.
"My point? Please stop saying its such a plus or its next gen or ewww and ahhh, M$ is in trouble because both Wii and PS3 because they support tech that makes you look like an idiot while your playing.
Because pushing a button to swing a bat is cool- while actually simulating it is not...."
Right, but theres a problem with what your saying. ITS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WII. Your not swinging a bat, your holding a little tiny device in your hand that does not give you the physical resistance and feel that a bat would. Why do you think I feel like fishing games are silly, because I have actually fished. The fish pulls against you, nothing even close on the Wii. Instead your going to swinging your hand and imagining your holding a sword. So please talk about what were actually talking about.
"MS is in trouble this generation- more because of everything they are doing wrong then anything they have failed to copy from the others. Right now they have Oblivion and nothing for killer apps, and unless GoW hits in time for its delayed yet again date then they will have a full year on the market and one killer app. MS is facing massive issues due to that more then anything else."
I disagree, M$ has alot of very fun apps. You dont have to have X KILLER apps to be able to have a good console. And have you went by
www.gametrailers.com lately? M$ has quite a few killer looking apps coming out. Whats PS3 or Wii got out?
"M$ is not in trouble, right now Wii dont know how it will actually play. Were guessing its cool, but as a PC gamer I dont see how it can compare to a already superior control system so I do not consider it in any way a Next Gen tech.
As a PC gamer you are insignificant at best. PC games in the US represent ~10% of the market, and that is considerably higher then the percentage of the globabl market. Sony is significantly larger in every market. You realize that you can get a mouse and keyboard setup for almost all of the consoles already, right? The problem is they suck, at best, for the overwhelming majority of games on the market. That is reality. Shooters are a nice niche market, but that is all they are. Any console company that focuses their efforts on that market is DOA- without a doubt."
Love how you use the term insignificant so freely, and complelty IGNORE WHAT I AM SAYING. I am saying why cant CONSOLE, please read that last word again, developers use a superior device that has been out for years. I am not saying be a PC Gamer, I am saying the mouse is superior to a pointer AND a touch screen as I have used and have both. What kind of pointer works? A laser pointer because it gives visual feedback of what your pointing at, you just have to guess with a silly device like this.
"In fact if I had to compare it to any previous device for any console then I would say its almost exactly like the power glove that came out from Nintendo, a worthless joke of a device.
PowerGlove didn't work. Why not compare it to the WaveBird and how far off the mark Nintendo was there? Obviously wireless controllers have been done before and they never work right, so Nin was clearly out of their minds introducing that new take on an old idea, right? Sony and MS obviously laughed at them and would never consider doing it, right?"
Because the wavebird is not a pointer, its wireless, its TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Its more like M$'s Xbox 360s controllers, not a gyro based pointer.
"I am sure the new controller will have more support, but that still makes it an attempt imo to recreate the wheel, when a superior wheel already exists.
What superior wheel exactly? Want to play GTV- I'll take one of these lousy controllers and you take a mouse? How many laps would I have to beat you by for you to realize why what you are talking about is nonsense?"
You would first have to beat me period, I dont believe this goofy controller will be at all profiecent at racing games. For one holding a straghit away looks impossible, just watch their own demos of that one racing game they have shown. The person is constantly zagging back and fourth.
People like you laughed at the stupid idea behind the DS too- obviously you are in a very small fringe minority.[/quote]
People like me? You have no idea what I am like. You see my opinion on one thing and think I am a certain way. Which I have proven your not a very good judge of character based on your above incorrect assumptions. I stand by my point. That point is, why do developers not make a mouse like device for their consoles THAT CAN BE USED IN ALL GAMES, not the one you can just type with and select things, but one that can be used in all games. And I can almost guarantee that the mouse is far superior as a gaming device when compared to the Wiis controller system. Sure its a neat gimmick and will be fun to play with but that doesnt make it better than a mouse. Nothing to do with PC Gaming as you so obviously are not able to comprehend. Its to do with why create something like this when something better could be used that already exists?