here we go! Wisconsin recount is happening

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werepossum

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You guys enjoy your recount, but please understand one thing. If we see the left steal this election, the right will come out in force. Even people like myself, who will never vote for Trump, will come out. And it won't be burning police cars and American flags, vandalism of "enemy" buildings, and looting stores. It will be civil war, preventing Hillary's ascension by armed force. You will not do to the nation what you did in Minnesota.
 
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You guys enjoy your recount, but please understand one thing. If we see the left steal this election, the right will come out in force. Even people like myself, who will never vote for Trump, will come out. And it won't be burning police cars and American flags, vandalism of "enemy" buildings, and looting stores. It will be civil war, preventing Hillary's ascension by armed force. You will not do to the nation what you did in Minnesota.

Calm down in the unlikely event this changes MN it still won't be enough to change the election.
In a weird way I'm glad this is happening and I hope it gets appropriate news coverage.
We need to establish our elections are sacred
We let too many foreigners mess with this election
We let the FBI act irresponsibly
We all blindly accept some votes are more equal than other votes
We all accept that many, many votes aren't even counted
We allow some States to cut corners on voting machines, ballots and staffing
We tolerate that in some places it could take more than one hour to vote.

These are worthwhile discussions
 

repoman0

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Jun 17, 2010
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You guys enjoy your recount, but please understand one thing. If we see the left steal this election, the right will come out in force. Even people like myself, who will never vote for Trump, will come out. And it won't be burning police cars and American flags, vandalism of "enemy" buildings, and looting stores. It will be civil war, preventing Hillary's ascension by armed force. You will not do to the nation what you did in Minnesota.

lol, what a joke. "If the initial results of the election were wrong and we didn't actually get our way, it's civil war!"
 
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buckshot24

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man if buckshit doesnt even think that 3 million illegal voter thing is real...

The thing is someone thinks its real and is pissed illegal are trying to steal the country. Someone may even think violence is the correct way to deal in trumps future. presidents who inflame peoples weird paranoia is a new future for the country.
Is English your first language? Where did I say it wasn't real? I don't know if it is real or not, Trump shouldn't be posting it as fact is what I was saying.
 

WelshBloke

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Jan 12, 2005
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You guys enjoy your recount, but please understand one thing. If we see the left steal this election, the right will come out in force. Even people like myself, who will never vote for Trump, will come out. And it won't be burning police cars and American flags, vandalism of "enemy" buildings, and looting stores. It will be civil war, preventing Hillary's ascension by armed force. You will not do to the nation what you did in Minnesota.
Eh?

Either the recount finds no problem and Trump remains President Elect or the recount finds enough shenanigans (really unlikely in my opinion) and Trump didn't win.

I'm not sure how that second option is to "steal the election". Any chance you could explain?
 
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You guys enjoy your recount, but please understand one thing. If we see the left steal this election, the right will come out in force. Even people like myself, who will never vote for Trump, will come out. And it won't be burning police cars and American flags, vandalism of "enemy" buildings, and looting stores. It will be civil war, preventing Hillary's ascension by armed force. You will not do to the nation what you did in Minnesota.
So your argument is that if evaluation actually shows that Trump did not win and should not have been named President-Elect it should result in civil war?

The result of ensuring the democratic process is intact is revolution?
 
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buckshot24

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LOL. Trump said he would see what the results would be. This was Clinton and people like you pushing him to 100% accept whatever the results were on election day.

You didn't want him to ask for recalls if he thought there were any problems with the count. I wonder why that was? Why did you keep asking him to accept whatever the result was? Maybe the left was trying to rig the vote and failed?

Why cant the left accept the results then? Why are they working to imply something bad happen?

Why cant you accept the results of the election? Why are you casting doubt on our democracy?

Cant move on?

Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites.
They have convinced themselves that Trump would have formed an army and marched on Washington, with regards to Trump many people have become completely insane. I see it on the right and the left.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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You guys enjoy your recount, but please understand one thing. If we see the left steal this election, the right will come out in force. Even people like myself, who will never vote for Trump, will come out.

It is frankly horrifying that you seem to be implying that if Clinton was found to win by a recount that this would somehow be 'stealing the election'. It would be the correct person winning, as the point of recounts is to make a more careful and accurate counting of votes. If you were to come out against that then you're against democracy.

And it won't be burning police cars and American flags, vandalism of "enemy" buildings, and looting stores. It will be civil war, preventing Hillary's ascension by armed force. You will not do to the nation what you did in Minnesota.

If the right tried to overturn the legitimate results of the election (as they would be if the recounts came out in Clinton's favor) by force then they will deserve the force they will be met with. This will be the second time the right has tried to overturn the results of a presidential election by force and you saw what happened last time. No one should have any patience for this sort of deranged rhetoric.
 
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Moonbeam

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You guys enjoy your recount, but please understand one thing. If we see the left steal this election, the right will come out in force. Even people like myself, who will never vote for Trump, will come out. And it won't be burning police cars and American flags, vandalism of "enemy" buildings, and looting stores. It will be civil war, preventing Hillary's ascension by armed force. You will not do to the nation what you did in Minnesota.
You live in darkness not knowing that everything you fear has already happened. Hillary ascended by armed force in your mind long ago and everything that you had of value was taken. What is left is a mindless robotic shell, a palimpsest, an adumbration of the original. I wish I could give you what you fear will be taken because what you puff up to protect is so so very little.
 

werepossum

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It is frankly horrifying that you seem to be implying that if Clinton was found to win by a recount that this would somehow be 'stealing the election'. It would be the correct person winning, as the point of recounts is to make a more careful and accurate counting of votes. If you were to come out against that then you're against democracy.



If the right tried to overturn the legitimate results of the election (as they would be if the recounts came out in Clinton's favor) by force then they will deserve the force they will be met with. This will be the second time the right has tried to overturn the results of a presidential election by force and you saw what happened last time. No one should have any patience for this sort of deranged rhetoric.
I specifically said "steal the election", not merely Hillary winning.
 

buckshot24

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I specifically said "steal the election", not merely Hillary winning.
They would pretty much have to cheat at this point, wouldn't you think? No way they find 100k votes across 3 states to overturn this election legitimately.
 

werepossum

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What would you perceive as 'stealing the election' that is likely to happen in a recount?
Same things that happened in New Mexico 2000 - all precincts have been counted and Bush is ahead - but wait, here's a bag we missed with five hundred Gore votes!

Or Philly and Pittsburg pretty much every election - we reported 90% turnout, but now we have recounted and it is actually 125%.

Or Minnesota when Stuart Smalley was elected - while recounting we noticed that some ballots were in bad shape so we copied them, but we accidentally mixed them up and surprise, now the Democrat wins!

You know, the usual tricks, writ large this time. You guys are very, very good in recounts. Only in Florida 2000 did you get too blatant.
 
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buckshot24

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Same things that happened in New Mexico 2000 - all precincts have been counted and Bush is ahead - but wait, here's a bag we missed with five hundred Gore votes!

Or Philly and Pittsburg pretty much every election - we reported 90% turnout, but now we have recounted and it is actually 125%.

Or Minnesota when Stuart Smalley was elected - while recounting we noticed that some ballots were in bad shape so we copied them, but we accidentally mixed them up and surprise, now the Democrat wins!

You know, the usual tricks, writ large this time. You guys are very, very good in recounts. Only in Florida 2000 did you get too blatant.
500 votes here and there are at least believable or have an air of deniability. Finding a box of 100k Hillary votes would be undeniable fraud.
 
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500 votes here and there are at least believable or have an air of deniability. Finding a box of 100k Hillary votes would be undeniable fraud.
When has voter fraud ever stopped the Democrats from padding election counts? Werepossom was pretty specific on recent incidents where they lied, cheated and stole votes to push themselves into the win column.
 

fskimospy

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Same things that happened in New Mexico 2000 - all precincts have been counted and Bush is ahead - but wait, here's a bag we missed with five hundred Gore votes!

New Mexico never had a recount in 2000, and the 'lost' votes look to have actually helped Bush, not Gore. If you are alleging some conspiracy then please post a link.

Or Philly and Pittsburg pretty much every election - we reported 90% turnout, but now we have recounted and it is actually 125%.

This is a frequent right wing myth that you have been duped by.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp

Or Minnesota when Stuart Smalley was elected - while recounting we noticed that some ballots were in bad shape so we copied them, but we accidentally mixed them up and surprise, now the Democrat wins!

You know, the usual tricks, writ large this time. You guys are very, very good in recounts. Only in Florida 2000 did you get too blatant.

Will need a link for that one too. Let's put it this way, considering the basic facts you got wrong to start out with and the easily disproven conspiracy theory for the second one I'm not confident here either. It turns out that conservatives are very, very good at duping gullible people into believing ideologically convenient things. Considering how easily they tricked you into believing these things I have no doubt that if Clinton were somehow certified as the winner after the recount you would convince yourself it was stolen regardless of the evidence.
 
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buckshot24

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When has voter fraud ever stopped the Democrats from padding election counts? Werepossom was pretty specific on recent incidents where they lied, cheated and stole votes to push themselves into the win column.
More false liberal pearl clutching. If this gets overturned there could only be fraud to blame, any other explanation wouldn't be credible.
 
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Or Philly and Pittsburg pretty much every election - we reported 90% turnout, but now we have recounted and it is actually 125%.

If I remember correctly the Philly and/or Pittsburgh thing were due to two page ballots, one election had one page ballots. The website making the stink forgot or purposely ignored that one election would have twice the "votes" as another simply because it had two pages.
 

werepossum

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When has voter fraud ever stopped the Democrats from padding election counts? Werepossom was pretty specific on recent incidents where they lied, cheated and stole votes to push themselves into the win column.
It is worth noting that only three statewide elections since 2000 have overturned the apparent winner, and all three flipped to Democrat because of new votes found in heavily Democrat districts. The Minnesota Senatorial race and the 2004 Washington gubernatorial race, where King County counted hundreds more ballots than were given out (not to mention "accidentally" counting hundreds of provisional ballots, allowing hundreds of inelligible felons to vote, and counting votes of a score of dead people) stand out as particularly blatantly egregious. As Buckshot says, finding three bags of a hundred thousand votes would be blatant election stealing, but that doesn't mean it won't be tried. After all, it worked before . . .
 
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