Here's what wrong with TV

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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This is absolutely true:

Right now, MTV is showing Ridiculousness instead of playing music, and I'm watching the Sandy Relief concert on the Cooking Channel.
 

mmntech

Lifer
Sep 20, 2007
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MTV became totally irrelevant on February 14th, 2005. The day YouTube was founded. Guess who's streaming the concert online.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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But I'm watching the biggest concert of the year on the Cooking Channel. WTF???
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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MTV became totally irrelevant on February 14th, 2005. The day YouTube was founded. Guess who's streaming the concert online.
MTV became completely irrelevant the day The Real World first aired (1992). MTV started down the path of doom with the airing of The Young Ones in 1985, only four years after its debut. Then they went through the phase of having a bunch of rappers sitting on a couch and flashing gang signs at the camera for hours at a time, sort of Spastic TV. It's like MTV just hated playing videos.
 

zanejohnson

Diamond Member
Nov 29, 2002
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got rid of cable tv a while ago, i can actually stream more channels than i got with basic cable... and it was kind of nice to get my ass in gear and get the shit i needed to get my htpc back up to speed..
 

Chiropteran

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Wasn't TLC once "the learning channel"?

Now it's stupid wedding shows and honey booboo. It's like it's turned into the unlearning channel.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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MTV became completely irrelevant the day The Real World first aired (1992). MTV started down the path of doom with the airing of The Young Ones in 1985, only four years after its debut. Then they went through the phase of having a bunch of rappers sitting on a couch and flashing gang signs at the camera for hours at a time, sort of Spastic TV. It's like MTV just hated playing videos.

/this
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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got rid of cable tv a while ago, i can actually stream more channels than i got with basic cable... and it was kind of nice to get my ass in gear and get the shit i needed to get my htpc back up to speed..

I tried that and found it frustrating that there was no central "guide" for streaming. If you wanted to see what is on, you had to go to a bunch of different websites.

Is there a service that shows what shows are showing on all the major network websites? Sounds difficult but that would be incredibly useful.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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what's wrong with tv is that people don't know how to change the channel when they find something they don't like, and instead come to an internet forum to rage about what they don't like.
 

unokitty

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"I invite each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when your station goes on the air and stay there... Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.

You will see a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons. And endlessly commercials — many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you'll see a few things you will enjoy. But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you to try it."

Newton N. Minow 9 May 61

TV Sucks

Uno
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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"I invite each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when your station goes on the air and stay there... Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.

You will see a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons. And endlessly commercials — many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you'll see a few things you will enjoy. But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you to try it."

Newton N. Minow 9 May 61

TV Sucks

Uno
I watched 2 hours of the NASA story last night on PBS. It was glorious.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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"I invite each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when your station goes on the air and stay there... Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.

You will see a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons. And endlessly commercials — many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you'll see a few things you will enjoy. But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you to try it."

Newton N. Minow 9 May 61

TV Sucks

Uno
To be sure, TV has improved immensely since then. Try watching some of the shows from back then, you'll see what I mean. However, I'm watching less.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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what's wrong with tv is that people don't know how to change the channel when they find something they don't like, and instead come to an internet forum to rage about what they don't like.

Did you read the post? It's not about changing the channel, it's about the music channel showing funny videos, and the cooking channel showing music.
 

KidNiki1

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Oct 15, 2010
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I was specifically rebutting this:

if you read ALL of the speech he linked, the man giving the speech, Minow, was actually looking for more of exactly what you liked... shows on TV in the public interest.


FULL speech (bold is my emphasis)

"When television is good, nothing — not the theater, not the magazines or newspapers — nothing is better.
But when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when your station goes on the air and stay there, for a day, without a book, without a magazine, without a newspaper, without a profit and loss sheet or a rating book to distract you. Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.
You will see a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons. And endlessly commercials — many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you'll see a few things you will enjoy. But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you to try it."


Minow often remarks that the two words best remembered from the speech are "vast wasteland," but the two words he wishes would be remembered are "public interest."
 
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endlessmike

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Jul 24, 2007
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This is absolutely true:

Right now, MTV is showing Ridiculousness instead of playing music, and I'm watching the Sandy Relief concert on the Cooking Channel.

It's not that shocking when you consider that Arts & Entertainment shows yokels buying junk from storage lockers, the History Channel shows a bunch of slobs working in a pawn shop, and the Learning Channel shows a talking pig fueled by Red Bull and Mountain Dew.

Given that, it's shocking that Cooking Channel is nothing but a continuous loop of D-listers talking about their favorite way to microwave a Hot Pocket.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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if you read ALL of the speech he linked, the man giving the speech, Minow, was actually looking for more of exactly what you liked... shows on TV in the public interest.


FULL speech (bold is my emphasis)

"When television is good, nothing — not the theater, not the magazines or newspapers — nothing is better.
But when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when your station goes on the air and stay there, for a day, without a book, without a magazine, without a newspaper, without a profit and loss sheet or a rating book to distract you. Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.
You will see a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons. And endlessly commercials — many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you'll see a few things you will enjoy. But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you to try it."


Minow often remarks that the two words best remembered from the speech are "vast wasteland," but the two words he wishes would be remembered are "public interest."
I don't really care about all that, I was specifically rebutting this:
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TV Sucks

Uno
 
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