Heroes: Volume II

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
My speculation is that it developed when Nathan picked up Peter and carried him away to explode in the final episode last year.

In the last episode Micah provided a little clue about it to copycat girl and so did Matt's dad. Similar powers run in the family. Maybe Nathan can do more than just fly? Possibly by touching Peter he absorbed some of the powers that Peter had and this split personality of his developed right when Peter exploded, hence the nasty looking face? However, did Peter ever pick up Nikki's power in the first place? I don't recall.

Anyway, that's my wild guess.

IIRC, in the season finale he hit Sylar pretty hard after coming into contact with her.

/smacks head

You are correct sir. I completely forgot about that.

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: alrocky
Hmm, musta not heard 'tickets to Montreal'. Thought it was an open ticket to New York. Sorta silly that writers needed to include Peter painting a picture to induce him to fly where the ticket was headed.

Ah, it's alright... ye was too busy focusin' on the Irish gal. Ye manhood be intact.

Thanks.

Ok just watched replay on the Heroes site and she said: "Open ticket from New York to Montreal." So I originally caught New York but lost Montreal with her accent.

This still leaves the question of why writers needed Peter to paint a picture reinforcing a French speaking locale. Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders. After her brother's death and the implication that Peter bedded her, it seemed natural the two would become a couple and she'd go with him.

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Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: alrocky
Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

I'm not sure that he determines the nightmare people get stuck in.

 

[AmdInside]

I am not liking this season so much. Too many heroes now. I understand to fit all the stories, Hiro's missions have to be told through Ando but it seems silly for now. Maybe it will make sense later (if Hiro dies). Claire is turning into a major #%$. HRG literally took a bullet to keep her safe, then bought her a brand new Nissan and she repays him by turning into this rebelious teenager. The twins story line is so far very boring. Peter was one of my favorite characters from last season and now I find him uninteresting. I am not finding any of the new characters interesting. I kind of feel like recording all of the episodes on my computer and then after I have a few episodes saved, watch them back to back. This way, it will not feel as slow as it is now.

 

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: alrocky
Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

I'm not sure that he determines the nightmare people get stuck in.

Well he probably could. He told Matt that his mind reading powers evolved into something that's so much more. Maybe now he can project images into peoples' minds.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: AmdInside
Claire is turning into a major #%$. HRG literally took a bullet to keep her safe, then bought her a brand new Nissan and she repays him by turning into this rebelious teenager.

Also known as a "teenager"

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: alrocky
Hmm, musta not heard 'tickets to Montreal'. Thought it was an open ticket to New York. Sorta silly that writers needed to include Peter painting a picture to induce him to fly where the ticket was headed.

Ah, it's alright... ye was too busy focusin' on the Irish gal. Ye manhood be intact.

Thanks.

Ok just watched replay on the Heroes site and she said: "Open ticket from New York to Montreal." So I originally caught New York but lost Montreal with her accent.

This still leaves the question of why writers needed Peter to paint a picture reinforcing a French speaking locale. Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders. After her brother's death and the implication that Peter bedded her, it seemed natural the two would become a couple and she'd go with him.

---

Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

Having sex with a chick is a bit light to have her crossing the globe with you. They are currently in Ireland.

 

[TwiceOver]

I have almost completely lost interrest. I skipped last night's episode to watch a Law and Order rerun. Sooo many characters, too many stories to follow. With the lives converging, now you need to pay attention to who knows who. With so many characters and stories to follow they have to jump around too much. You only get to see a few minutes of each story per episode.

I don't think it is a bad show, I really enjoyed the first season. I just can't keep track of everything going on when I only get to see 3 minutes of each character per episode.

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: alrocky
This still leaves the question of why writers needed Peter to paint a picture reinforcing a French speaking locale. Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders. After her brother's death and the implication that Peter bedded her, it seemed natural the two would become a couple and she'd go with him.

Having sex with a chick is a bit light to have her crossing the globe with you. They are currently in Ireland.

Well gee must I repeat that her brother is dead and add that he's got tons of superpowers and she's likely emotionally attached to him? And he her. He feels responsible for her brother's death and thus feels an obligation to protect her. She is also one of the few people he knows.

 

[alkemyst]

still would you as the chick travel across the world when your brother just died more than likely due to that very guy. In TV though I guess it may work. It's be nuts for any newly hooked up people to do that though.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: alrocky
Hmm, musta not heard 'tickets to Montreal'. Thought it was an open ticket to New York. Sorta silly that writers needed to include Peter painting a picture to induce him to fly where the ticket was headed.

Ah, it's alright... ye was too busy focusin' on the Irish gal. Ye manhood be intact.

Thanks.

Ok just watched replay on the Heroes site and she said: "Open ticket from New York to Montreal." So I originally caught New York but lost Montreal with her accent.

This still leaves the question of why writers needed Peter to paint a picture reinforcing a French speaking locale. Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders. After her brother's death and the implication that Peter bedded her, it seemed natural the two would become a couple and she'd go with him.

---

Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

The writers might have felt it necessary to have the painting scene because when Peter was looking through the box, even though he saw the plane ticket, it didn't really tell him anything about who he was. There were plenty of other items in the box as well. Which item was the path he should take? Besides, it provided a chance to show off one of his many powers that his new girl hadn't yet seen.

For Nathan - I doubt that Matt's dad placed those images in his head. The first time Nathan saw that reflection was towards the end of the first episode in season 2, long before he came in contact with Matt's dad. My impression is that Matt's dad can't do anything to a person that he doesn't have direct physical or mental contact with. The only reason he got into Sara is because she went looking for him and he was able to get into her head because she put those mental feelers out.

Why the damaged image? Maybe because Nathan carried Peter skywards while Peter was radioactive and he got the dual-personality power at the same time? In a way, part of him was badly damaged performing that feat and those parts split in two.

Who knows though? The "WOAH!" moments are the best thing about Heroes, so I hope I'm wrong. Definitely wouldn't be the first time.

 

[mooglemania85]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: alrocky
Hmm, musta not heard 'tickets to Montreal'. Thought it was an open ticket to New York. Sorta silly that writers needed to include Peter painting a picture to induce him to fly where the ticket was headed.

Ah, it's alright... ye was too busy focusin' on the Irish gal. Ye manhood be intact.

Thanks.

Ok just watched replay on the Heroes site and she said: "Open ticket from New York to Montreal." So I originally caught New York but lost Montreal with her accent.

This still leaves the question of why writers needed Peter to paint a picture reinforcing a French speaking locale. Sorta like wearing a belt and suspenders. After her brother's death and the implication that Peter bedded her, it seemed natural the two would become a couple and she'd go with him.

---

Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

The writers might have felt it necessary to have the painting scene because when Peter was looking through the box, even though he saw the plane ticket, it didn't really tell him anything about who he was. There were plenty of other items in the box as well. Which item was the path he should take? Besides, it provided a chance to show off one of his many powers that his new girl hadn't yet seen.

After seeing all those singles, I was hoping his path would lead him to a few strip clubs.

 

[lupi]

About 2/3 through with this episode. Pretty damn awesome so far, too bad the hour is almost over

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: alrocky
Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

For Nathan - I doubt that Matt's dad placed those images in his head. The first time Nathan saw that reflection was towards the end of the first episode in season 2, long before he came in contact with Matt's dad. My impression is that Matt's dad can't do anything to a person that he doesn't have direct physical or mental contact with. The only reason he got into Sara is because she went looking for him and he was able to get into her head because she put those mental feelers out.

Why the damaged image? Maybe because Nathan carried Peter skywards while Peter was radioactive and he got the dual-personality power at the same time? In a way, part of him was badly damaged performing that feat and those parts split in two.

The problem with Nathan catching Nikki's split personality via Peter during the explosion (and thus explaining the damaged mirror image) is that Nathan should be dead. Unless he also got Peter's healing power. What kind of power is a physically damaged alter ego? If that persona ever emerges, what's Nathan gonna do, ooze all over a bad guy?

Didn't Nathan 'win' an elective office? What's with the beard early in the season and what happened to the job?

I guess when most people with super powers explode, their clothes come out fine and are undamaged. That or the people who found him after the big bang gave him pants and a box's worth of personal effects, and then locked him in that cargo container. I can't imagine a satifactory reason why he ends up locked in that container.

I'm guessing Sylar's lack of powers is due a drug treatment and not injuries as the late Candice suggested. When it wears off, he's good... bad to go! The Shape Shifter was trying to change him but got shafted instead.

 

[lupi]

That was somethin I wondered about, what happened with the election? Did someone find out it was rigged?

 

[davestar]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: alrocky
Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

For Nathan - I doubt that Matt's dad placed those images in his head. The first time Nathan saw that reflection was towards the end of the first episode in season 2, long before he came in contact with Matt's dad. My impression is that Matt's dad can't do anything to a person that he doesn't have direct physical or mental contact with. The only reason he got into Sara is because she went looking for him and he was able to get into her head because she put those mental feelers out.

Why the damaged image? Maybe because Nathan carried Peter skywards while Peter was radioactive and he got the dual-personality power at the same time? In a way, part of him was badly damaged performing that feat and those parts split in two.

The problem with Nathan catching Nikki's split personality via Peter during the explosion (and thus explaining the damaged mirror image) is that Nathan should be dead. Unless he also got Peter's healing power. What kind of power is a physically damaged alter ego? If that persona ever emerges, what's Nathan gonna do, ooze all over a bad guy?

Didn't Nathan 'win' an elective office? What's with the beard early in the season and what happened to the job?

I guess when most people with super powers explode, their clothes come out fine and are undamaged. That or the people who found him after the big bang gave him pants and a box's worth of personal effects, and then locked him in that cargo container. I can't imagine a satifactory reason why he ends up locked in that container.

I'm guessing Sylar's lack of powers is due a drug treatment and not injuries as the late Candice suggested. When it wears off, he's good... bad to go! The Shape Shifter was trying to change him but got shafted instead.

why all the crazy conspiracy theories/fantastical explanations for nathan's burnt self? most likely it's just a way to portray nathan's guilt over his loss of peter.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: lupi
That was somethin I wondered about, what happened with the election? Did someone find out it was rigged?

nathan resigned

 

[NFS4]

That was the most fake "crash landing" I've ever seen. Heroes is sucking it up big time.

 

[potato28]

almost over half an hour into the episode... :Q

 

[BigJ]

OH SNAP!

 

[NFS4]

:Q

 

[homercles337]

Noah better hope the haitian is loyal.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Pretty good season overall. It always seems that I think an episode is almost over but it's only half way through.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: alrocky
Nathan's ugly self shows before he meets Matt's Dad and during the nightmare fight with Matt. It's a fair guess that Matt's Dad placed those images in Nathan in the prior episodes, seeing how the ugly images are identical.

Nathan catching a piece of Nikki via Peter during the Big Bang seems a stretch but it could still work. But why a damaged image?

For Nathan - I doubt that Matt's dad placed those images in his head. The first time Nathan saw that reflection was towards the end of the first episode in season 2, long before he came in contact with Matt's dad. My impression is that Matt's dad can't do anything to a person that he doesn't have direct physical or mental contact with. The only reason he got into Sara is because she went looking for him and he was able to get into her head because she put those mental feelers out.

Why the damaged image? Maybe because Nathan carried Peter skywards while Peter was radioactive and he got the dual-personality power at the same time? In a way, part of him was badly damaged performing that feat and those parts split in two.

The problem with Nathan catching Nikki's split personality via Peter during the explosion (and thus explaining the damaged mirror image) is that Nathan should be dead. Unless he also got Peter's healing power. What kind of power is a physically damaged alter ego? If that persona ever emerges, what's Nathan gonna do, ooze all over a bad guy?

Didn't Nathan 'win' an elective office? What's with the beard early in the season and what happened to the job?

I guess when most people with super powers explode, their clothes come out fine and are undamaged. That or the people who found him after the big bang gave him pants and a box's worth of personal effects, and then locked him in that cargo container. I can't imagine a satifactory reason why he ends up locked in that container.

I'm guessing Sylar's lack of powers is due a drug treatment and not injuries as the late Candice suggested. When it wears off, he's good... bad to go! The Shape Shifter was trying to change him but got shafted instead.

I don't think Nathan's other side was damaged in the explosion but because of the radiation. Could even Peter have survived his own body going nuclear? imo, if Peter and Nathan survived then the explosion wasn't really Peter exploding but the energy from Peter that he somehow shed at the last second. (Yeah, I hate the "last second" plot device too, but it wouldn't be the first time they've used it in Heroes by a long shot.)

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't think Nathan's other side was damaged in the explosion but because of the radiation. Could even Peter have survived his own body going nuclear? imo, if Peter and Nathan survived then the explosion wasn't really Peter exploding but the energy from Peter that he somehow shed at the last second. (Yeah, I hate the "last second" plot device too, but it wouldn't be the first time they've used it in Heroes by a long shot.)

Why are people still wondering how Peter survived the explosion? Just like Ted, when he loses control he explodes. And just like Ted, he can survive exploding himself.