Heroes: Volume II

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alkemyst

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guess Peter has Hiro's power now. It also appears Hiro may end up being the Kensei after all.
 
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't think Nathan's other side was damaged in the explosion but because of the radiation. Could even Peter have survived his own body going nuclear? imo, if Peter and Nathan survived then the explosion wasn't really Peter exploding but the energy from Peter that he somehow shed at the last second. (Yeah, I hate the "last second" plot device too, but it wouldn't be the first time they've used it in Heroes by a long shot.)

Why are people still wondering how Peter survived the explosion? Just like Ted, when he loses control he explodes. And just like Ted, he can survive exploding himself.
Did Ted explode and survive last season?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't think Nathan's other side was damaged in the explosion but because of the radiation. Could even Peter have survived his own body going nuclear? imo, if Peter and Nathan survived then the explosion wasn't really Peter exploding but the energy from Peter that he somehow shed at the last second. (Yeah, I hate the "last second" plot device too, but it wouldn't be the first time they've used it in Heroes by a long shot.)

Why are people still wondering how Peter survived the explosion? Just like Ted, when he loses control he explodes. And just like Ted, he can survive exploding himself.
Did Ted explode and survive last season?

Not on a scale that Peter did, but remember when the Army came to his hideout in New Mexico?
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't think Nathan's other side was damaged in the explosion but because of the radiation. Could even Peter have survived his own body going nuclear? imo, if Peter and Nathan survived then the explosion wasn't really Peter exploding but the energy from Peter that he somehow shed at the last second. (Yeah, I hate the "last second" plot device too, but it wouldn't be the first time they've used it in Heroes by a long shot.)

Why are people still wondering how Peter survived the explosion? Just like Ted, when he loses control he explodes. And just like Ted, he can survive exploding himself.
Did Ted explode and survive last season?

Not on a scale that Peter did, but remember when the Army came to his hideout in New Mexico?
I thought Ted was just experimenting with making fireballs?
 

poopygood

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
guess Peter has Hiro's power now. It also appears Hiro may end up being the Kensei after all.

But in season 1, didn't the story of Kensei include a part of him cutting out his own heart? IIRC, it was the episode where Hiro is trained in 15 minutes by his dad to be a sword master....

Wouldn't that eliminate Hiro from being Kensei? (with no regenerative powers)
 

BigJ

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Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't think Nathan's other side was damaged in the explosion but because of the radiation. Could even Peter have survived his own body going nuclear? imo, if Peter and Nathan survived then the explosion wasn't really Peter exploding but the energy from Peter that he somehow shed at the last second. (Yeah, I hate the "last second" plot device too, but it wouldn't be the first time they've used it in Heroes by a long shot.)

Why are people still wondering how Peter survived the explosion? Just like Ted, when he loses control he explodes. And just like Ted, he can survive exploding himself.
Did Ted explode and survive last season?

Not on a scale that Peter did, but remember when the Army came to his hideout in New Mexico?
I thought Ted was just experimenting with making fireballs?

I have the DVD box set. Lemme sift through and pinpoint a scene.

Just remembered where it was from. In the Heroes web comics. That's why people may not realize his ability.

Here's a link to it:

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/nove...s/Heroes_novel_018.pdf
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I don't think Nathan's other side was damaged in the explosion but because of the radiation. Could even Peter have survived his own body going nuclear? imo, if Peter and Nathan survived then the explosion wasn't really Peter exploding but the energy from Peter that he somehow shed at the last second. (Yeah, I hate the "last second" plot device too, but it wouldn't be the first time they've used it in Heroes by a long shot.)

Why are people still wondering how Peter survived the explosion? Just like Ted, when he loses control he explodes. And just like Ted, he can survive exploding himself.
Did Ted explode and survive last season?

Not on a scale that Peter did, but remember when the Army came to his hideout in New Mexico?
I thought Ted was just experimenting with making fireballs?

I have the DVD box set. Lemme sift through and pinpoint a scene.
Thanks for checking. You have me curious now because I don't recall Ted blowing up.

Alzheimer's runs in the family though.
 

alrocky

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Ivan offered HRG a road to salvation, but at that fork in the road HRG sealed his fate by taking the route that dead ends in demise ironically similar to his mentor's fate.

Looks like instead of a nuclear future Heroes has a virus Spring (out)Break.

Anyone else find Bob's moral turn around unconvincing?

Guessing Kensei had to surrender because the swordsmith was captured and he saved Hiro's life or cover by knocking him out. The lack of additional scrolls suggests Hiro never again gets his hand on the famous sword while he is in the past. Or has scant time to write... scratch that.

Sure wish Sylar would hurry up and drop off the dead weight in the Rogue.



 

AmdInside

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Man this was the worst episode of the season. It's like they took the writers from Lost and had they do this season of Heroes.
 

BigJ

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I have to say I'm very disappointed in this season so far. I had goosebumps going into the season premiere and now I only half watch the episode while studying or playing Civ 4.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: BigJ
I have to say I'm very disappointed in this season so far. I had goosebumps going into the season premiere and now I only half watch the episode while studying or playing Civ 4.

Agreed, I used to give Heroes my full attention (until the commercials came on so I could post here ), but now I just find myself wandering. This season blows.

The sophomore slump lives on!
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: alrocky
Guessing Kensei had to surrender because the swordsmith was captured and he saved Hiro's life or cover by knocking him out. The lack of additional scrolls suggests Hiro never again gets his hand on the famous sword while he is in the past. Or has scant time to write... scratch that.

I doubt it. If he surrendered, why would Whitebeard necessarily want him rather than capture him? The only reason then would be Kensei saying he'd maybe fight for Whitebeard (since he's so legendary or whatever). To me, it looks like he turned them over because he was pissed that Hero was sippin' on his kool-aid.

I'm curious who this guy is that Bob is afraid of and it's also the same guy that wrote the note to Peter that he found in Montreal.

I assume the evacuation notice is meant to allude to Sylar getting his power back (and killing the twins (THANK YOU BABY JESUS!))? Maybe Peter meeting up with the twins and going postal... again. But the fact that they used that angle for season 1 means I doubt they'll use it again.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: alrocky
Ivan offered HRG a road to salvation, but at that fork in the road HRG sealed his fate by taking the route that dead ends in demise ironically similar to his mentor's fate.

Looks like instead of a nuclear future Heroes has a virus Spring (out)Break.

Anyone else find Bob's moral turn around unconvincing?

Guessing Kensei had to surrender because the swordsmith was captured and he saved Hiro's life or cover by knocking him out. The lack of additional scrolls suggests Hiro never again gets his hand on the famous sword while he is in the past. Or has scant time to write... scratch that.

Sure wish Sylar would hurry up and drop off the dead weight in the Rogue.

Well dead men tell no tales. This is the problem HRG has...if the guy was lying chances are Claire would be captured and used as bait immediately.

Bob is behind this virus I believe, Mohinder hinted at the risks...I am thinking Bob did the turn-around since the muscle memory girl was not that important to test on...they could always find someone else (which appears to be Nikki now...I don't think many realized they hadn't tested the virus/cure and yet someone used it on her).

I am not sure why people are so down on the latino couple...it's an interesting storyline if one gets over they aren't nicely made up like the other characters and are subtitled.
 

davestar

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i could've sworn that suresh was going to stick Ned Reyerson with the "cure" needle. would've been his first ballsy move. ah well...
 
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Originally posted by: alrocky
Guessing Kensei had to surrender because the swordsmith was captured and he saved Hiro's life or cover by knocking him out. The lack of additional scrolls suggests Hiro never again gets his hand on the famous sword while he is in the past. Or has scant time to write... scratch that.

Kensei betrays Hiro and becomes "evil". He's the founder of the company, which now uses his symbol that he brandishes on his sword and banner. I predicted this a while back and it's looking more and more likely now.
 

NFS4

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Yup, Heroes Season 2 is sucking it up big time.

http://www.syfyportal.com/news424367.html
The unconditional love for NBC's "Heroes" may be no more as bad news got worse for the show that is just a third of the way through its second season.

"Heroes" fell from its series low last week to a new low of a 6.1 rating/9 share according to Fast National Ratings from Nielsen Media Research. It was pounded by "Dancing With the Stars" as well as "Samantha Who?" on ABC, which once again averaged above a 10 rating. Also, comedies on CBS both continued to draw larger audiences than "Heroes," which was only able to beat a rerun of "K-Ville" on Fox and whatever The CW decided to air.

No matter where the blame lies, "Heroes" is still not getting much help from the shows NBC has grouped with it. "Chuck" and "Journeyman" also posted series lows, according to Zap2it, with "Chuck" earning a 4.2/6 and "Journeyman" a 3.8/6, both good only for third-place finishes as well, beating only World Series-less Fox reruns and The CW.
I blame too many new characters, boring storylines, lack of a focus on Peter, plus the suckfest that is Maya and Alejandro
 

KevinH

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: alrocky
Guessing Kensei had to surrender because the swordsmith was captured and he saved Hiro's life or cover by knocking him out. The lack of additional scrolls suggests Hiro never again gets his hand on the famous sword while he is in the past. Or has scant time to write... scratch that.

Kensei betrays Hiro and becomes "evil". He's the founder of the company, which now uses his symbol that he brandishes on his sword and banner. I predicted this a while back and it's looking more and more likely now.


Whoa That's really a good guess!
 

Demo24

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I dunno why people keep complaining about too many new characters. Honestly not that many have been introduced, and all of them tie in with the previous characters. I think they just aren't spending enough time nor enough detail with the characters which gives them a lackluster appeal.

Season feels kind of rushed. Much better editing and graphical effects in season1. Still good in my opinion but it could be better. Hopefully more insight is given soon as I would like to know more about what is really going on.

Something I don't quite get with Hiro, why not go back yet again and do it right? Or is he not quite in control of his power at the moment.
 
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Originally posted by: DEMO24
Something I don't quite get with Hiro, why not go back yet again and do it right? Or is he not quite in control of his power at the moment.

If they allowed him to keep going back to fix all the mistakes, the show would go nowhere and it would be pointless. It just wouldn't make any sense for him to do that, even if it is the most logical of choices.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: KevinH
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: alrocky
Guessing Kensei had to surrender because the swordsmith was captured and he saved Hiro's life or cover by knocking him out. The lack of additional scrolls suggests Hiro never again gets his hand on the famous sword while he is in the past. Or has scant time to write... scratch that.

Kensei betrays Hiro and becomes "evil". He's the founder of the company, which now uses his symbol that he brandishes on his sword and banner. I predicted this a while back and it's looking more and more likely now.


Whoa That's really a good guess!

There are alot of dedicated Heroes sites with much deeper talk than here. Here people can't even quote the proper character names or remember events.
 

jdini76

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Originally posted by: davestar
i could've sworn that suresh was going to stick Ned Reyerson with the "cure" needle. would've been his first ballsy move. ah well...

haha Ned Reyerson. BING!
 
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