Heroes Volume IV: Fugitives

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Tremulant
I don't remember the exact scene, but when Hiro saw Ando kill him at the beginning of S3, what happened exactly? Did Ando shoot him with his power and Hiro disappeared, or did he stab him with a sword?

He zapped him with red lightning, and Hiro dropped like a sack.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: NoReMoRsE
Michael Dorn is the US President!

yet another reminder of the hell that befalls earth when a black president is elected.

asteroids, fiery balls of concentrated evil, terrorist attacks (and more terrorist attacks). when will we learn??

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Tremulant
I don't remember the exact scene, but when Hiro saw Ando kill him at the beginning of S3, what happened exactly? Did Ando shoot him with his power and Hiro disappeared, or did he stab him with a sword?

He zapped him with red lightning, and Hiro dropped like a sack.

This site is awesome:

http://heroeswiki.com/Future_Ando

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

so he is like Robin

No, he has the red lightning thing.

But it seems that mrSHEiK124's theorem was somewhat disproven (it was extended to most all characters). Ando actually used his power fairly wisely.

Last I brought it up I was worried that Ando would follow suit; it still only applies to Peter

He disproved it on his own yesterday though.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I wonder what happens when Peter gets around Ando... could he possibly just take every power all of the world? All over time?

 

[Aikouka]

Ando has one advantage to him... Nathan doesn't know that he's got powers.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
Ando has one advantage to him... Nathan doesn't know that he's got powers.

Because then Nathan could fly really really high. (Yes, I know there are other implications, it just caught me as funny thinking about a direct "power-up" for Nathan)

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

so he is like Robin

No, he has the red lightning thing.

But it seems that mrSHEiK124's theorem was somewhat disproven (it was extended to most all characters). Ando actually used his power fairly wisely.

Last I brought it up I was worried that Ando would follow suit; it still only applies to Peter

He disproved it on his own yesterday though.

Did he really? He saved Nathan. While compassionate and humane, the end of the episode just showed that Peter fucked things up bigtime by doing so, leading to chapter 4.

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Tremulant
I don't remember the exact scene, but when Hiro saw Ando kill him at the beginning of S3, what happened exactly? Did Ando shoot him with his power and Hiro disappeared, or did he stab him with a sword?

He zapped him with red lightning, and Hiro dropped like a sack.

This site is awesome:

http://heroeswiki.com/Future_Ando

Damnit, now I'm going to be super unproductive today.

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

so he is like Robin

No, he has the red lightning thing.

But it seems that mrSHEiK124's theorem was somewhat disproven (it was extended to most all characters). Ando actually used his power fairly wisely.

that's becasue Ando actually has a brain and uses it, and he's the best char in the show. peter is still an idiot, and now nathan is, too, maybe it's genetic, because claire got the idiot gene too

 

[DayLaPaul]

So is Sylar dead once and for all or did they somehow forget again that he's a slippery cockroach motherfucker?

 

[hunewbie]

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

Claire's biological mom died because sylar made it so that she couldn't control her powers...maybe Ando can super charge someone's ability to a point where they can't control it anymore as well...

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: Newbian
I swear to god if it goes as bad as season 2....

Season 2 wasn't great but at least it wasn't fvckup like 3.

 

[thedarkwolf]

So sentinels next season?

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Newbian
I swear to god if it goes as bad as season 2....

Season 2 wasn't great but at least it wasn't fvckup like 3.

You didn't care for this season?

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

Well, I said in the previous heroes thread that the powers you get are what is reflected in your heart and I think I was right. Ando didn't want to be a time traveler, Ando wanted to help Hiro. Not only that, but I'm sure they'll develop his power a lot more like they did with Parkman's, where they'll allow him to work in sort of the opposite manner of the Haitian... as in, he can make someone's power more effective by merely being in the same room.

what if he uses his powers on the haitian. can the haitian take away all powers all over the world?

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
So sentinels next season?

Dear god I used to love this show

 

[villageidiot111]

Originally posted by: hunewbie

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

Claire's biological mom died because sylar made it so that she couldn't control her powers...maybe Ando can super charge someone's ability to a point where they can't control it anymore as well...

I really doubt she died. It seems that she is impervious to fire or else she would burn her hands whenever using her power, and her mini fireballs while locked in the cell with HRG didnt seem to harm her.

 

[Schfifty Five]

This seems exactly like X-Men.

Mutant registration, Sen. Kelley, etc.

 

[hunewbie]

Originally posted by: villageidiot111

Originally posted by: hunewbie

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

Claire's biological mom died because sylar made it so that she couldn't control her powers...maybe Ando can super charge someone's ability to a point where they can't control it anymore as well...

I really doubt she died. It seems that she is impervious to fire or else she would burn her hands whenever using her power, and her mini fireballs while locked in the cell with HRG didnt seem to harm her.

true...perhaps she didn't die...but you get the point, right?
like a power overload and the body just can't handle it anymore...

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
This seems exactly like X-Men.

Mutant registration, Sen. Kelley, etc.

Senator Kelly rhymes with Nathan Petrelli.

Originally posted by: hunewbie

Originally posted by: villageidiot111

Originally posted by: hunewbie

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Soooo...Ando's power is that he super chargers other powers? Theres gotta be something more to it then that otherwise thats lame.

Claire's biological mom died because sylar made it so that she couldn't control her powers...maybe Ando can super charge someone's ability to a point where they can't control it anymore as well...

I really doubt she died. It seems that she is impervious to fire or else she would burn her hands whenever using her power, and her mini fireballs while locked in the cell with HRG didnt seem to harm her.

true...perhaps she didn't die...but you get the point, right?
like a power overload and the body just can't handle it anymore...

While that may be true, she had a huge building collapse on her. I think that might sting a little bit. Sylar could at least regen (assuming the shiv Claire put in his head somehow gets removed), and he could kinetic blast his way out. Claire's mom probably is a flattened pile of hotness (pun intended) right now.

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Newbian
I swear to god if it goes as bad as season 2....

Season 2 wasn't great but at least it wasn't fvckup like 3.

You didn't care for this season?

It's the season that ruined the series for me. S1 started out great and I thought would set the tone for the rest of the series. People with powers dealing with the real world. There was emphasis on character development. I didn't like every character but at least they were trying to give equal time for each. There were progression and continuity. There was a definite good vs evil theme. S2 felt like it was about getting rid of unpopular or unnecessary characters and introducing new ones. It seemed a bit contrived. What did happen to Peter's Irish g/f that was left in the future? Peter conveniently forgot about her? What happened to the Invisible man that had a large part in S1 as Peter's mentor?

S3 pretty much broke any continuity or progression that was set by S1. S2 had the excuse of a writers strike, but in S3 it seems the writers didn't know what to do anymore. Things were done for shock value. What started as a comic book written as a serious adult drama now turned into an actual comic book written for teens. Cool! New characters with different powers! Not!! Let's see how many people with powers we can introduce and kill off. Character development went to shit. Suresh was written as a benevolent character at the start who suppose to have the all encompassing view of the predicament these heroes are facing (he's the narrator for Christ's sakes). He was suppose to be the sympathetic and understanding good guy. Instead they turned him into a spider/fly creature who couldn't make any moral decision. As for Maya. Don't know what to do with her. Let this spider-like Suresh fuck her up. How 'bout Sylar? This season is entitled "Villain" for a reason. This is suppose to be where he shines. Instead (for shock) let's pussify him, give him an apron, and make him try to do good. Whoops! Fans didn't like that too much. Let's make him a bad guy again at end. I'm not going to start about Peter.

This reminds me a lot of the Matrix. First one was fantastic. 2nd one was okay: decent action. 3rd one went to shit.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: ricochet
Suresh was written as a benevolent character at the start who suppose to have the all encompassing view of the predicament these heroes are facing (he's the narrator for Christ's sakes). He was suppose to be the sympathetic and understanding good guy. Instead they turned him into a spider/fly creature who couldn't make any moral decision. As for Maya. Don't know what to do with her. Let this spider-like Suresh fuck her up. How 'bout Sylar? This season is entitled "Villain" for a reason. This is suppose to be where he shines. Instead (for shock) let's pussify him, give him an apron, and make him try to do good. Whoops! Fans didn't like that too much. Let's make him a bad guy again at end. I'm not going to start about Peter.

I'll have to agree with you on these points

 

[acheron]

Originally posted by: ricochet
What did happen to Peter's Irish g/f that was left in the future?

The writer's strike.

What happened to the Invisible man that had a large part in S1 as Peter's mentor?

They can't get Christopher Eccleston back.

but in S3 it seems the writers didn't know what to do anymore. Things were done for shock value.

This was my problem with S3. In S1, there was a definite feeling that the writers knew where the story was going. There's a reason Babylon 5 is awesome, and it's not the acting or the 1992-era CGI. It's because it tells a coherent and consistent story, from the beginning to the end. Heroes S1 wasn't quite to that level, but at least seemed to be aspiring to it.

In S2, it was just that nothing happened until it was too late, and then there was the strike.

S3, plenty of things happened, but a lot of it seemed random. As you said, for shock value. There just wasn't the sense of direction and purpose. Plus the contradictions with S1.

I don't know. I thought S3 was entertaining enough, and I'll keep watching, but I'm not nearly as excited anymore as I was during S1.

Of course, I liked the third Matrix movie better than the second, too.

 

[NFS4]

Bump for new episode tonight