HEROES

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: lupi
What a weird ass episode. Seems this one did more to muddy the storeline(s) than anything other than Sylar killing mommy dearest.

At least the reunion at the end made it seem like things getting back on track.

I'm going to go on a limb and say that was the illusionist talking to Petrelli at the end and not mums.

that might be a strong limb

although, it DOES seem like everyone is getting on the bandwagon in favor of blowing up the city

We know there was a previous group of "heroes" that failed (including Linderman and probably the Petrelli mom), and it isn't a stretch to think that they're still working together, it doesn't have to be the illusionist to make sense.

As far as "getting back on track", I don't think there is a track in the sense you seem to be implying, the future we saw from Hiro's time traveling and the paintings/drawings made aren't set in stone - the last comic book Hiro has is unfinished, pretty symbolic.

But when we consider everyone is migrating towards New York it never really was off track in your terms either...

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: jdini76

Originally posted by: jdini76

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
um...when time stops, can you still hear? I don't get it....this is such bs...

Time only stops from the persepctive of Hiro and who he touches. To Syler everything is normal and hiro is just moving extremely fast. I don't know the ratio, but I would take a guess that when Hiro stops time, every minute he stops is 1 second in normal time. I'm speculating though.

With that being said. It doesn't explain how syler was able to hear the heartbeats. I know he has the super hearing, but it would sound different if it were moving as fast as they supposedly are.

Also, He may have powers that we don't know about yet. Like the freezing ability I haven't seen that before. He must have gained that before the story started.

sylar got the freezing ability from the father of the girl in the closet, when parkman first uses his power. remember?

 

[lupi]

We know there was a previous group of "heroes" that failed (including Linderman and probably the Petrelli mom), and it isn't a stretch to think that they're still working together, it doesn't have to be the illusionist to make sense.

Except it seems Linderman wants the bomb to go off to get his guy as the Pres. From previous episodes mommy doesn't seem to be one whom would go along with that.

As far as "getting back on track", I don't think there is a track in the sense you seem to be implying, the future we saw from Hiro's time traveling and the paintings/drawings made aren't set in stone - the last comic book Hiro has is unfinished, pretty symbolic.

track as more action/fast pace given the limited amount of air time left.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: lupi
Except it seems Linderman wants the bomb to go off to get his guy as the Pres. From previous episodes mommy doesn't seem to be one whom would go along with that.

We really don't know much about her character though, she really is something of a wild card. Earlier episodes painted her as relatively helpless and flawed, but some of the more recent episodes have shown us she knows far more than she was letting on and all the signs have been there implying her role in all this when the illusionist was on the other side of the country (in Vegas)

 

[lupi]

We really don't know much about her character though, she really is something of a wild card. Earlier episodes painted her as relatively helpless and flawed, but some of the more recent episodes have shown us she knows far more than she was letting on

But she has always shown the most reverance to Peter so would she allow Peter the lifelong angst that comes with being the bomb?

and all the signs have been there implying her role in all this when the illusionist was on the other side of the country (in Vegas)

But DL & Niki found that her and Linderman were in NY when they went looking for Micah.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: alrocky

How does Hiro fix his sword?

Maybe his dad brings him another sword. Maybe he has stockpiles of it.

Oh gee and my metals processing class comes in handy. Melt that thing back down and then quench that shizzle. Martensite in swords FTW! Damascus sword!

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: NFS4
This is to make up for the sh!tty episode:

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she's not legal yet you perv!

This is to make up for my perviness

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http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/NFS4/Hayden_Panettiere_9.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/NFS4/Hayden_Panettiere_perfume.jpg

And to think you used to like Nora Zehetner instead. Glad to see you finally got some sense.

And most excellent pics, good god.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: lupi
But she has always shown the most reverance to Peter so would she allow Peter the lifelong angst that comes with being the bomb?

yes, if she really believes in the plan

But DL & Niki found that her and Linderman were in NY when they went looking for Micah.

yet she was in vegas in order to trick micah into going to ny in the first place, and how would she keep tabs on micah and talkin to patrelli at the same time?

 

[TheChort]

Here's something really out there...

The Heroes writers are strong believers in the 9/11 conspiracy. The idea of NY blowing up is parallel with a government conspiracy of 9/11.
Because it was 9/11 that made Bush all-powerful, then it will be the Peter-Nuke that makes Nathan all-powerful too.
:evil:

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: TheChort
Here's something really out there...

The Heroes writers are strong believers in the 9/11 conspiracy. The idea of NY blowing up is parallel with a government conspiracy of 9/11.
Because it was 9/11 that made Bush all-powerful, then it will be the Peter-Nuke that makes Nathan all-powerful too.
:evil:

A. George Bush was already elected into political office (of which governor > congressmen) before running for pres. This is opposite of Heroes.
B. George Bush was already elected into presidency well before 9/11. Also not the case for Heroes.
C. New York is the biggest city in the U.S., one of the biggest in the world, and one of the most important cities in the U.S./world, of course it is going to be an obvious target for anyone, not just a conspiracy nut.

Besides, the biggest debunking of this 'theory' would be if/when the heroes stop the explosion...how would you explain that?

 

[RaiderJ]

9/11 = really happened
Heroes = TV show

Please, note the difference!

 

[Minjin]

Lets go back two episodes. I meant to say something about this but forgot. Didn't Ando say something to future Hiro about kenjutsu? And Hiro corrected him? Immediately, it made me think that Hiro had gone back in time, maybe to ancient Japan, and learned how to sword fight. It isn't something you just pick up in a few years. So I'm thinking maybe he takes the broken sword back in time, learns to fight, and has the sword fixed at the same time.

 

[mrizvi66]

What if the samiuri(sp?) that hiro admires is himself...when he goes back in time to learn kenjutsu and repair his sword...furture hiro and the painting of the japanese guys look afully similar...just a thought.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Minjin
Lets go back two episodes. I meant to say something about this but forgot. Didn't Ando say something to future Hiro about kenjutsu? And Hiro corrected him? Immediately, it made me think that Hiro had gone back in time, maybe to ancient Japan, and learned how to sword fight. It isn't something you just pick up in a few years. So I'm thinking maybe he takes the broken sword back in time, learns to fight, and has the sword fixed at the same time.

Nah man, he sat down and watched a bunch of Rurouni Kenshin! The true Battoujutsu master!

Hiro will defeat Sylar with the Ama Kakeru Ryu no Hirameki... I'm callin' it now!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Minjin
Lets go back two episodes. I meant to say something about this but forgot. Didn't Ando say something to future Hiro about kenjutsu? And Hiro corrected him? Immediately, it made me think that Hiro had gone back in time, maybe to ancient Japan, and learned how to sword fight. It isn't something you just pick up in a few years. So I'm thinking maybe he takes the broken sword back in time, learns to fight, and has the sword fixed at the same time.

not a bad idea, there still is that painting of Hiro, sword in hand, facing a big T-Rex - so I think it is implied he can go way back in time, unless Peter Griffin becomes a hero on the show

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: Minjin
Lets go back two episodes. I meant to say something about this but forgot. Didn't Ando say something to future Hiro about kenjutsu? And Hiro corrected him? Immediately, it made me think that Hiro had gone back in time, maybe to ancient Japan, and learned how to sword fight. It isn't something you just pick up in a few years. So I'm thinking maybe he takes the broken sword back in time, learns to fight, and has the sword fixed at the same time.

With only 2 episodes left and Hiro having such a bad case of his first kill willies, I don't think the writers will have him get over his angst and fix his sword via time traveling. A simpler solution would be to have Peter or Ted mend it for him. (IIRC present day Hiro hasn't met Peter. I wonder if the writers did this on purpose.)

Speaking of going back a few episodes, why does Linderman have a murder contract out on Nathan and offer him a deal at the same time? And why would Jessica / Niki know about the offer?

 

[hdeck]

i don't think it was a murder contract. i think it was a "scare the living hell out of him so he goes along with the plan" type deal.

 

[RgrPark]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Minjin
Lets go back two episodes. I meant to say something about this but forgot. Didn't Ando say something to future Hiro about kenjutsu? And Hiro corrected him? Immediately, it made me think that Hiro had gone back in time, maybe to ancient Japan, and learned how to sword fight. It isn't something you just pick up in a few years. So I'm thinking maybe he takes the broken sword back in time, learns to fight, and has the sword fixed at the same time.

not a bad idea, there still is that painting of Hiro, sword in hand, facing a big T-Rex - so I think it is implied he can go way back in time, unless Peter Griffin becomes a hero on the show

uh it was a painting of him passing the T-rex in the museum...

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: RgrPark

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles


not a bad idea, there still is that painting of Hiro, sword in hand, facing a big T-Rex - so I think it is implied he can go way back in time, unless Peter Griffin becomes a hero on the show

uh it was a painting of him passing the T-rex in the museum...

never in my life have i been more let down by a TV show

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: RgrPark

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Minjin
Lets go back two episodes. I meant to say something about this but forgot. Didn't Ando say something to future Hiro about kenjutsu? And Hiro corrected him? Immediately, it made me think that Hiro had gone back in time, maybe to ancient Japan, and learned how to sword fight. It isn't something you just pick up in a few years. So I'm thinking maybe he takes the broken sword back in time, learns to fight, and has the sword fixed at the same time.

not a bad idea, there still is that painting of Hiro, sword in hand, facing a big T-Rex - so I think it is implied he can go way back in time, unless Peter Griffin becomes a hero on the show

uh it was a painting of him passing the T-rex in the museum...

QFT

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: RgrPark

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Minjin
Lets go back two episodes. I meant to say something about this but forgot. Didn't Ando say something to future Hiro about kenjutsu? And Hiro corrected him? Immediately, it made me think that Hiro had gone back in time, maybe to ancient Japan, and learned how to sword fight. It isn't something you just pick up in a few years. So I'm thinking maybe he takes the broken sword back in time, learns to fight, and has the sword fixed at the same time.

not a bad idea, there still is that painting of Hiro, sword in hand, facing a big T-Rex - so I think it is implied he can go way back in time, unless Peter Griffin becomes a hero on the show

uh it was a painting of him passing the T-rex in the museum...

Might be true, but there are some differences.

Museum

Painting

In the museum he brandishes the fake with the scabbard on, while in the painting he has the actual sword. Perhaps its just an inconsistency, but I'm still hoping

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: RgrPark

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
there still is that painting of Hiro, sword in hand, facing a big T-Rex - so I think it is implied he can go way back in time, unless Peter Griffin becomes a hero on the show

uh it was a painting of him passing the T-rex in the museum...

Might be true, but there are some differences.

Museum

Painting

In the museum he brandishes the fake with the scabbard on, while in the painting he has the actual sword. Perhaps its just an inconsistency, but I'm still hoping

Considering the similarities, it's very doubtful Hiro is going way back in time for some dino slicing. As with all of Issac's work, there is the matter of the correct interpretation of what's he's drawn or painted. It should be obvious now that Issac painted Hiro at the museum and not way back when. The writers played a joke on us. And a big one at that with a T-Rex encounter teaser.

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Why does Linderman have a murder contract out on Nathan and offer him a deal at the same time? And why would Jessica / Niki know about the offer?

Originally posted by: hdeck
i don't think it was a murder contract. i think it was a "scare the living hell out of him so he goes along with the plan" type deal.

She whacked the diamond thief under contract with Linderman. She later asked Micah if there was 'another package.' Over the phone she said that she had 'no problem with that' regarding Nathan. Now why would Linderman ask a mass murderer if she had a possible problem with just scaring someone so he's go along with some plan?

Recall the scene where she disarmed the 2 federal agents who were working with Nathan? At the end of the scene she discharged her weapon presumably killing both. Kill the agents but only scare Nathan?

There is of course a plausible reason why killing Nathan was plan A and 'recruiting' him was plan B.

 

[NFS4]

The entire cast of heroes is gonna be on the next segment of the Today Show. Coming up in a few minutes!!!

They just showed a live clip of them all standing on top of 30 rock

 

[hdeck]

only 4.5 hours to go! tonight's episode should be amazing

 

[EvilYoda]

*waits anxiously*