HEROES

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Minjin

I mean, come on, Mr. Bennet's boss walks in, has to make a stupid comment to announce his presence and then barely hits Ted? He's supposed to be a pro at this game.

I was thinking that the boss had already had an idea that Claire was more than she seemed. He naturally would assume that HRG was sheltering her, because he, Sulu, and everyone else in the organization were expecting her to be superhuman. I think he may have intentionally set Ted off in order to force Claire to use her abilities.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Xenon
No theories on how Simone survived getting shot?

Edit: actually my little theory there makes no sense. They would have shot Ted with a fake gun/tranquilizer if that were the case.

The preview for next week alludes to the fact that she has powers. Sounds like another Claire.

There was an article in USA Today where the actress that plays Simone was talking about how she was killed off because the writers didn't know where to take her character. Maybe she was just BSing but it sounded like it was for real.

 

[Dedpuhl]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Xenon
No theories on how Simone survived getting shot?

Edit: actually my little theory there makes no sense. They would have shot Ted with a fake gun/tranquilizer if that were the case.

The preview for next week alludes to the fact that she has powers. Sounds like another Claire.

OR it's part of some sort of dream sequence...

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: MinjinI mean, come on, Mr. Bennet's boss walks in, has to make a stupid comment to announce his presence and then barely hits Ted? He's supposed to be a pro at this game.

I was thinking that the boss had already had an idea that Claire was more than she seemed. He naturally would assume that HRG was sheltering her, because he, Sulu, and everyone else in the organization were expecting her to be superhuman. I think he may have intentionally set Ted off in order to force Claire to use her abilities.

If the boss thought Claire was a HERO, it'd be a lot easier to have her abducted and tested, as opposed to risking everyone's lives including his own. He'd also have to assume her HERO power was one that would assist in stopping Ted from going nuclear.

The boss taking one and only one shot at Ted is a writer's 'cheat' to create the danger and let the drama play out. You'd think otherwise that the boss would shoot several times until Ted was dead or unconscious, ala the invisible Brit punching out Peter when Peter was freaking out.

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Simone. Although her dad was a HERO I'm guessing she's dead and agree with Dedpuhl that her appearing in the preview for next week is just a dream sequence.

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: alrocky
Simone. Although her dad was a HERO I'm guessing she's dead and agree with Dedpuhl that her appearing in the preview for next week is just a dream sequence.

Really? I don't remember anything like that

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: MinjinI mean, come on, Mr. Bennet's boss walks in, has to make a stupid comment to announce his presence and then barely hits Ted? He's supposed to be a pro at this game.

I was thinking that the boss had already had an idea that Claire was more than she seemed. He naturally would assume that HRG was sheltering her, because he, Sulu, and everyone else in the organization were expecting her to be superhuman. I think he may have intentionally set Ted off in order to force Claire to use her abilities.

If the boss thought Claire was a HERO, it'd be a lot easier to have her abducted and tested, as opposed to risking everyone's lives including his own. He'd also have to assume her HERO power was one that would assist in stopping Ted from going nuclear.

The boss taking one and only one shot at Ted is a writer's 'cheat' to create the danger and let the drama play out. You'd think otherwise that the boss would shoot several times until Ted was dead or unconscious, ala the invisible Brit punching out Peter when Peter was freaking out.

I have a feeling there's another character we haven't been introduced to yet that told the Haitian not to memory wipe Claire. Maybe a Magneto type character (not in terms of power but a super powered individual that is the ideological opposing force to the "good guys").

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: MinjinI mean, come on, Mr. Bennet's boss walks in, has to make a stupid comment to announce his presence and then barely hits Ted? He's supposed to be a pro at this game.

I was thinking that the boss had already had an idea that Claire was more than she seemed. He naturally would assume that HRG was sheltering her, because he, Sulu, and everyone else in the organization were expecting her to be superhuman. I think he may have intentionally set Ted off in order to force Claire to use her abilities.

If the boss thought Claire was a HERO, it'd be a lot easier to have her abducted and tested, as opposed to risking everyone's lives including his own. He'd also have to assume her HERO power was one that would assist in stopping Ted from going nuclear.

The boss taking one and only one shot at Ted is a writer's 'cheat' to create the danger and let the drama play out. You'd think otherwise that the boss would shoot several times until Ted was dead or unconscious, ala the invisible Brit punching out Peter when Peter was freaking out.

I have a feeling there's another character we haven't been introduced to yet that told the Haitian not to memory wipe Claire. Maybe a Magneto type character (not in terms of power but a super powered individual that is the ideological opposing force to the "good guys").

that's linderman

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: MinjinI mean, come on, Mr. Bennet's boss walks in, has to make a stupid comment to announce his presence and then barely hits Ted? He's supposed to be a pro at this game.

I was thinking that the boss had already had an idea that Claire was more than she seemed. He naturally would assume that HRG was sheltering her, because he, Sulu, and everyone else in the organization were expecting her to be superhuman. I think he may have intentionally set Ted off in order to force Claire to use her abilities.

If the boss thought Claire was a HERO, it'd be a lot easier to have her abducted and tested, as opposed to risking everyone's lives including his own. He'd also have to assume her HERO power was one that would assist in stopping Ted from going nuclear.

The boss taking one and only one shot at Ted is a writer's 'cheat' to create the danger and let the drama play out. You'd think otherwise that the boss would shoot several times until Ted was dead or unconscious, ala the invisible Brit punching out Peter when Peter was freaking out.

I have a feeling there's another character we haven't been introduced to yet that told the Haitian not to memory wipe Claire. Maybe a Magneto type character (not in terms of power but a super powered individual that is the ideological opposing force to the "good guys").

that's linderman

Possible but couldn't Linderman also be the guy running whatever company HRG works for? Though that would make it confusing about why he had Niki seduce Nathan at the same time that HRG and the Haitian tried to abduct him...maybe...I don't know.

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I have a feeling there's another character we haven't been introduced to yet that told the Haitian not to memory wipe Claire. Maybe a Magneto type character (not in terms of power but a super powered individual that is the ideological opposing force to the "good guys").

Haitian: I answer to someone who's instructions supersede yours.
HRG: In this company?
Haitian: In your daughter's life.

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This dialog suggests a relative but the "hot" trailer park mom, Peter and Nathan all seem like weak choices. Nathan has power and connections and probably knows more than what's been disclosed so far - so he's the best of the three, although his actions aren't consistent with being the SUPERSEDER.

Note that after that scene we flashback to 7 years ago with the invisible Brit who had some knowledge of Claire. He has the motivation and could form an alliance with the Haitian, telling him not to wipe her memories. To me of the best of the known character, it would be the Brit. Otherwise, it sounds like you may be right - that it's a new unintroduced character.

Linderman likely isn't the man because he shouldn't have know about her. HRG has been hiding Claire from his organization. HRG works for Linderman or for a 'competing' organization. If it were anyone with power in either organization, he would have done more to stop Sylar (and save Claire) at Homecoming. So the person is mostly likely an outsider of sorts. Wasn't it HRG's idea to wipe her memory or did he receive instructions?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: Queasy
I have a feeling there's another character we haven't been introduced to yet that told the Haitian not to memory wipe Claire. Maybe a Magneto type character (not in terms of power but a super powered individual that is the ideological opposing force to the "good guys").

Haitian: I answer to someone who's instructions supersede yours.
HRG: In this company?
Haitian: In your daughter's life.

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This dialog suggests a relative but the "hot" trailer park mom, Peter and Nathan all seem like weak choices. Nathan has power and connections and probably knows more than what's been disclosed so far - so he's the best of the three, although his actions aren't consistent with being the SUPERSEDER.

Note that after that scene we flashback to 7 years ago with the invisible Brit who had some knowledge of Claire. He has the motivation and could form an alliance with the Haitian, telling him not to wipe her memories. To me of the best of the known character, it would be the Brit. Otherwise, it sounds like you may be right - that it's a new unintroduced character.

Linderman likely isn't the man because he shouldn't have know about her. HRG has been hiding Claire from his organization. HRG works for Linderman or for a 'competing' organization. If it were anyone with power in either organization, he would have done more to stop Sylar (and save Claire) at Homecoming. So the person is mostly likely an outsider of sorts. Wasn't it HRG's idea to wipe her memory or did he receive instructions?

or it could be the guy invisible man was hiding that got him shot

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: alrocky
Simone. Although her dad was a HERO I'm guessing she's dead and agree with Dedpuhl that her appearing in the preview for next week is just a dream sequence.

Really? I don't remember anything like that

Peter was nursing Simone's ailing father and he appeared in Peter's dreams and Peter also dreamed of flying. And dreams a lot. So the assumption is that Simone's dad HERO power had something to do with dreams and that was the first HERO power that Peter absorbed.

Heck I could be wrong and Simone is alive next week with her own HERO power.

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The person who the Brit was hiding could have been a woman. When HRG asked who it was, the Brit said, 'what if were your daughter?' Since Peter and Nathan have the Hero gene, they may have inherited it from their mom. Mrs. P. certainly fits the description of "someone in your daughter's life" if that means a relative. Was the person the Brit hiding the same person who the Haitian was taking instructions from? Boy that's a stretch.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: Xenon
No theories on how Simone survived getting shot?

Edit: actually my little theory there makes no sense. They would have shot Ted with a fake gun/tranquilizer if that were the case.

she didn't survive. go to youtube & watch the trailer again, or go to herosite.net and look at the screencaps. there are clearly 2 "simones" in the scene. the real one is laying dead on the floor behind the one talking.

how did this happen? the prevailing wisdom is that candice (the new girl in the lab from this week) has the power to create illusions and make you see what she wants you to.

couple that with the fact that the actress that plays simone & the writers have said simone is dead, that pretty much confirms that next week is part of an illusion/dream/hallucination due to heroin.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: alrocky
Simone. Although her dad was a HERO I'm guessing she's dead and agree with Dedpuhl that her appearing in the preview for next week is just a dream sequence.

Really? I don't remember anything like that

Peter was nursing Simone's ailing father and he appeared in Peter's dreams and Peter also dreamed of flying. And dreams a lot. So the assumption is that Simone's dad HERO power had something to do with dreams and that was the first HERO power that Peter absorbed.

Heck I could be wrong and Simone is alive next week with her own HERO power.

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The person who the Brit was hiding could have been a woman. When HRG asked who it was, the Brit said, 'what if were your daughter?' Since Peter and Nathan have the Hero gene, they may have inherited it from their mom. Mrs. P. certainly fits the description of "someone in your daughter's life" if that means a relative. Was the person the Brit hiding the same person who the Haitian was taking instructions from? Boy that's a stretch.

the person the invisible guy was hiding, imo is Claires mother.

 

[hdeck]

yeah, especially given the latest comic book, i think he was hiding meredith.

 

[Arcex]

The person whose instructions supercede HRG's in regards to Claires life? Why can't it be Claire?

Or, why can't it be Sulu? We know he's high up in the organization but we don't know what his angle is yet, he may have said he wanted HRG to give the kid up when ordered to but he may be trying to manipulate things from behind. Stupid theory I know but it's all I can think of this early in the morning...

 

[blackdogdeek]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
the person the invisible guy was hiding, imo is Claires mother.

but they know about claire's mother don't they? the brit makes mention of it when they go to that building to meet up with sulu and eric roberts when hrg gets claire for the first time.

the brit say something like "wish they had told us about that little firestarter something something".

 

[Souless]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: alrocky
Simone. Although her dad was a HERO I'm guessing she's dead and agree with Dedpuhl that her appearing in the preview for next week is just a dream sequence.

Really? I don't remember anything like that

Peter was nursing Simone's ailing father and he appeared in Peter's dreams and Peter also dreamed of flying. And dreams a lot. So the assumption is that Simone's dad HERO power had something to do with dreams and that was the first HERO power that Peter absorbed.

Heck I could be wrong and Simone is alive next week with her own HERO power.

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The person who the Brit was hiding could have been a woman. When HRG asked who it was, the Brit said, 'what if were your daughter?' Since Peter and Nathan have the Hero gene, they may have inherited it from their mom. Mrs. P. certainly fits the description of "someone in your daughter's life" if that means a relative. Was the person the Brit hiding the same person who the Haitian was taking instructions from? Boy that's a stretch.

the person the invisible guy was hiding, imo is Claires mother.

No i think that he was hiding Simone because of where he lived on top of that roof top where Simone's dad died in that building and when he was training Peter he mentioned not another one. So with Simone alive and the quote "why dont you try shooting me again" I think she was very aware of her powers and that the invisible guy trained her.


do you have any proof that it was Clair's mother?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: Xenon
No theories on how Simone survived getting shot?

Edit: actually my little theory there makes no sense. They would have shot Ted with a fake gun/tranquilizer if that were the case.

she didn't survive. go to youtube & watch the trailer again, or go to herosite.net and look at the screencaps. there are clearly 2 "simones" in the scene. the real one is laying dead on the floor behind the one talking.

how did this happen? the prevailing wisdom is that candice (the new girl in the lab from this week) has the power to create illusions and make you see what she wants you to.

couple that with the fact that the actress that plays simone & the writers have said simone is dead, that pretty much confirms that next week is part of an illusion/dream/hallucination due to heroin.

whoa wtf!!??

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
the person the invisible guy was hiding, imo is Claires mother.

but they know about claire's mother don't they? the brit makes mention of it when they go to that building to meet up with sulu and eric roberts when hrg gets claire for the first time. the brit say something like "wish they had told us about that little firestarter something something".

Sounds like he said, "Little Orphan Annie", ie baby Clarie. There is no obvious clue in the latest comic book that the invisible Brit was hiding Meredith, but in retrospect it's a fair guess that the Brit gave Claire's "hot" mom a way out. But is she also the person the Haitian referenced who didn't want Claire's mind wiped? If she were in deep would she risk calling Peter, thus exposing all three of them? Seems the Brit would be the most likely middle man from her to the Haitian. A 'no memory wipe' to the Haitian seems an odd instruction unless it was a subset of a larger general 'do no harm to my daughter' mandate.

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Just saw the 'twin' Simones on the NBC site and was thinking 'an out of body experience?'

 

[hdeck]

there are a bunch of preview clips for monday out now. those bastards know how to give you just enough in the clips to make the wait until monday that more agonizing

 

[tigerbait]

new episode available for the net savvy. I'll check tomorrow for the discussion, I don't want to spoil anything

 

[Savarak]

Claire has earrings... meaning she has pierced ears.... means she would need to re-pierce it all the time throughout her youth =p she either has NEVER changed her earrings, or was oblivious to how she always heals =p

or just clip-ons, hah... unlikely

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: tigerbait
new episode available for the net savvy. I'll check tomorrow for the discussion, I don't want to spoil anything

I just saw the episode as well. It's a great episode! Funny how they snuck in Heavenly Sword for PS3 in there, the game looks awesome.

 

[Savarak]

the name of the ps3 game..... and the goal of hiro... hmmmmmm

 

[hdeck]

OMG OMG THIS EPISODE IS SO GOOD OMG