HEROES

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: n30
Edit: And without having read most of the thread, it's my prediction that Claire's father is at least a part of Linderman's organization

We know who Claire's father is ...

WARNING SPOILER!!!


So what do you think about Nathan Petrelli being Claire's real father? Do you think it was before or after he was married to his current wife?

 

[jme5343]

Remember when Isaac tells Bennett that he's been painting Peter all along, but it's like he's been invisible? Bennett then says something to the effect of "Sounds like one of our friends that we thought was dead really isn't" To me, he used the term "friend" loosely, almost sarcastically. What's this say about the guy Peter's hanging around with? What role do you see him playing?

 

[Abe Froman]

Well, it is obvious that the "old friend" isn't in the best standing. Perhaps he was something of an agent for Bennett, and situations went awry. Maybe they thought they had killed him, or perhaps he was killed in action, and stayed gone to get out of it all.

I could be way off.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Question:

Sylar - Why is he hell-bent on getting Claire? You would think for the amazing regenerative powers right? But why? Let's examine this flaw in the plot shall we:

Sylar scuffles with Peter at the high school, falls off the top of whatever, and miraculously walks away.
Sylar gets medicated to the point of death, and miraculously "walks away".
Sylar gets shot at least twice by Bennett, and miraculously "walks away".

Each time, even though apparently hurt, Sylar comes out pretty much unscathed (other than the haircut). So WHY does he want Claire's powers? It appears he already has them or some form of them.

i think the way to explain that is he wants to be "special" -- ie, he wants to be the only person with special abilities. notice every time he has taken a power from someone else he has killed them. everyone assumes that he *has* to kill them to get their powers, but maybe he just does that so that he will be unique. if you recall the "6 months ago" episode, he was obsessed with being special.

If he doesn't need to kill them to take their powers, why slice open their skulls and pull the brain out? I think he wants to be special, but also has to perform an "autopsy" to get the power.

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Question:

Sylar - Why is he hell-bent on getting Claire? You would think for the amazing regenerative powers right? But why? Let's examine this flaw in the plot shall we:

Sylar scuffles with Peter at the high school, falls off the top of whatever, and miraculously walks away.
Sylar gets medicated to the point of death, and miraculously "walks away".
Sylar gets shot at least twice by Bennett, and miraculously "walks away".

Each time, even though apparently hurt, Sylar comes out pretty much unscathed (other than the haircut). So WHY does he want Claire's powers? It appears he already has them or some form of them.

i think the way to explain that is he wants to be "special" -- ie, he wants to be the only person with special abilities. notice every time he has taken a power from someone else he has killed them. everyone assumes that he *has* to kill them to get their powers, but maybe he just does that so that he will be unique. if you recall the "6 months ago" episode, he was obsessed with being special.

If he doesn't need to kill them to take their powers, why slice open their skulls and pull the brain out? I think he wants to be special, but also has to perform an "autopsy" to get the power.

I think it's more of a lobotomy that needs to be performed.

 

[rstove02]

Anyone else notice when Sylar approached HRG's wife on the floor...the one word he said was deep in pitch like how the one dead gal's voice would become when she used her power of persuasion?

He might of been able to get her powers even though she blew her brains out....bullet missed the right spot maybe?

 

[Abe Froman]

What do you think he actually does with the brains? Is it possible he takes them so that no one else can use them? Perhaps he is more like Peter? Remember when Claire was dead, she didn't come back until the branch was removed from her brain?

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Abe Froman
What do you think he actually does with the brains? Is it possible he takes them so that no one else can use them? Perhaps he is more like Peter? Remember when Claire was dead, she didn't come back until the branch was removed from her brain?

His power is that he can learn by studying... remember the prequel episode when he was with Dr. Suresh... he fixed the watch almost instantaneously. He said he's always been able to figure out how things work just by looking.

This ties in with Peter's "lesson" from invisible dude. Peter absorbs powers just be being close to someone. Invisidude's lesson was that his body remembers how to use the powers, his mind doesn't, so he needs to clear his mind and focus, and then shoves him off the roof. Right before hitting the car, he remembered Claire, which presumably caused his body to regenerate.

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: Abe Froman
What do you think he actually does with the brains? Is it possible he takes them so that no one else can use them? Perhaps he is more like Peter? Remember when Claire was dead, she didn't come back until the branch was removed from her brain?

he eats them

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Abe Froman
What do you think he actually does with the brains? Is it possible he takes them so that no one else can use them? Perhaps he is more like Peter? Remember when Claire was dead, she didn't come back until the branch was removed from her brain?

His power is that he can learn by studying... remember the prequel episode when he was with Dr. Suresh... he fixed the watch almost instantaneously. He said he's always been able to figure out how things work just by looking.

This ties in with Peter's "lesson" from invisible dude. Peter absorbs powers just be being close to someone. Invisidude's lesson was that his body remembers how to use the powers, his mind doesn't, so he needs to clear his mind and focus, and then shoves him off the roof. Right before hitting the car, he remembered Claire, which presumably caused his body to regenerate.

His flash backs to Issac's power were pretty crazy, when he almost had a melt down with the flash backs.

 

[FreshPrince]

Guys, help me count how many powers Peter has now...

1. power to absorb other people's power
2. power to regenerate
3. power to read people's minds
4. power to fly
5. power to be invisible
6. power to see the future and paint them
7. power to stop time like Hiro
8. power to move things with his mind (sylar)
9. power to study things and understand them (sylar)
10. basically all of sylar's powers

freaking Peter is GOD!

let me know if I'm missing any other powers that he has come in contact with.

 

[archiloco]

the haitian guy maybe, he was close to him in jail, also any power HRG guy has maybe, but not really sure since he got his butt whipped by sylar. also i don't think he has all of sylars powers, maybe just Telekinesis i think they just have to have used the power (or this might be the reason he got into a coma, absorbing all of sylars powers made him really tired..

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Guys, help me count how many powers Peter has now...

1. power to absorb other people's power
2. power to regenerate
3. power to read people's minds
4. power to fly
5. power to be invisible
6. power to see the future and paint them
7. power to stop time like Hiro
8. power to move things with his mind (sylar)
9. power to study things and understand them (sylar)
10. basically all of sylar's powers

freaking Peter is GOD!

let me know if I'm missing any other powers that he has come in contact with.

But he had to remember how that person made him feel to do turn on their powers, I am nto sure he experienced all of Sylar's capabilities. Also, he may not be able to take all of Sylar's capabilities. If he could, there would be no point in having the rest of the cast.

He may only be able to pick up the abilitlies that each person has on their own... as in not attained.

 

[Amdiggidy]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Abe Froman
What do you think he actually does with the brains? Is it possible he takes them so that no one else can use them? Perhaps he is more like Peter? Remember when Claire was dead, she didn't come back until the branch was removed from her brain?

His power is that he can learn by studying... remember the prequel episode when he was with Dr. Suresh... he fixed the watch almost instantaneously. He said he's always been able to figure out how things work just by looking.

QFT

Sylar was good at fixing watches because he could get down to the mechanics of the watch, study how it worked, thus learning what made it "tick" (literally).

He does the same thing with people. The only way he can learn how/ why they have their powers is to "take them apart" and get down to the true mechanics of how they tick. As a result, (of getting their heads cut open) they die...obviously. He learns how they work and mimics their mechanics in order to duplicate their powers in himself.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Guys, help me count how many powers Peter has now...

1. power to absorb other people's power
2. power to regenerate
3. power to read people's minds
4. power to fly
5. power to be invisible
6. power to see the future and paint them
7. power to stop time like Hiro
8. power to move things with his mind (sylar)
9. power to study things and understand them (sylar)
10. basically all of sylar's powers

freaking Peter is GOD!

let me know if I'm missing any other powers that he has come in contact with.

But he had to remember how that person made him feel to do turn on their powers, I am nto sure he experienced all of Sylar's capabilities. Also, he may not be able to take all of Sylar's capabilities. If he could, there would be no point in having the rest of the cast.

He may only be able to pick up the abilitlies that each person has on their own... as in not attained.

but then how do you explain how he regenerated himself after falling when claire did not use her powers at all. I think he just needs to be near a person to absorb all their powers.

 

[Abe Froman]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Guys, help me count how many powers Peter has now...

1. power to absorb other people's power
2. power to regenerate
3. power to read people's minds
4. power to fly
5. power to be invisible
6. power to see the future and paint them
7. power to stop time like Hiro
8. power to move things with his mind (sylar)
9. power to study things and understand them (sylar)
10. basically all of sylar's powers

freaking Peter is GOD!

let me know if I'm missing any other powers that he has come in contact with.

But he had to remember how that person made him feel to do turn on their powers, I am nto sure he experienced all of Sylar's capabilities. Also, he may not be able to take all of Sylar's capabilities. If he could, there would be no point in having the rest of the cast.

He may only be able to pick up the abilitlies that each person has on their own... as in not attained.

but then how do you explain how he regenerated himself after falling when claire did not use her powers at all. I think he just needs to be near a person to absorb all their powers.

But technically, his power is just learning what makes them tick, so in essence Peter may only be able to Absorb that ability from Sylar. He may not be able to absorb all of the abilities that Sylar has stolen from the other Heroes.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Guys, help me count how many powers Peter has now...

1. power to absorb other people's power
2. power to regenerate
3. power to read people's minds
4. power to fly
5. power to be invisible
6. power to see the future and paint them
7. power to stop time like Hiro
8. power to move things with his mind (sylar)
9. power to study things and understand them (sylar)
10. basically all of sylar's powers

freaking Peter is GOD!

let me know if I'm missing any other powers that he has come in contact with.

But he had to remember how that person made him feel to do turn on their powers, I am nto sure he experienced all of Sylar's capabilities. Also, he may not be able to take all of Sylar's capabilities. If he could, there would be no point in having the rest of the cast.

He may only be able to pick up the abilitlies that each person has on their own... as in not attained.

but then how do you explain how he regenerated himself after falling when claire did not use her powers at all. I think he just needs to be near a person to absorb all their powers.

But technically, his power is just learning what makes them tick, so in essence Peter may only be able to Absorb that ability from Sylar. He may not be able to absorb all of the abilities that Sylar has stolen from the other Heroes.

I guess we shall see

 

[archiloco]

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: Abe Froman

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Guys, help me count how many powers Peter has now...

1. power to absorb other people's power
2. power to regenerate
3. power to read people's minds
4. power to fly
5. power to be invisible
6. power to see the future and paint them
7. power to stop time like Hiro
8. power to move things with his mind (sylar)
9. power to study things and understand them (sylar)
10. basically all of sylar's powers

freaking Peter is GOD!

let me know if I'm missing any other powers that he has come in contact with.

But he had to remember how that person made him feel to do turn on their powers, I am nto sure he experienced all of Sylar's capabilities. Also, he may not be able to take all of Sylar's capabilities. If he could, there would be no point in having the rest of the cast.

He may only be able to pick up the abilitlies that each person has on their own... as in not attained.

but then how do you explain how he regenerated himself after falling when claire did not use her powers at all. I think he just needs to be near a person to absorb all their powers.

But technically, his power is just learning what makes them tick, so in essence Peter may only be able to Absorb that ability from Sylar. He may not be able to absorb all of the abilities that Sylar has stolen from the other Heroes.

but HRG guy did mention to Sylar that his body was reacting to all the changes in DNA he has done in order to get all the abilities into him. or something like that, then they mentioned that Peter absorbed their DNA into his or something like that. so if he absorbed the DNA he absorbed some funky dna from sylar.

 

[hdeck]

i don't really have a "defense" as to why he's been slicing open the brains and such, but we did all see that he learned how the cockroach worked just by looking at it all those days within the cell. now, maybe he ripped out the roach's brain or ate it or whatever, but he was pretty drugged and unable to move (seemingly) yet he could still slow down his body functions enough to fake being dead.

perhaps the brain stuff is just something to throw them off, or maybe he wants to destroy the brains so no one else can get the genetics of it or w/e, i dunno.

just an idea i had when reading through those sylar thoughts.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
but then how do you explain how he regenerated himself after falling when claire did not use her powers at all. I think he just needs to be near a person to absorb all their powers.

He didn't... he hobbled away and ran into the siren of a woman .

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Question:

Sylar - Why is he hell-bent on getting Claire? You would think for the amazing regenerative powers right? But why? Let's examine this flaw in the plot shall we:

Sylar scuffles with Peter at the high school, falls off the top of whatever, and miraculously walks away.
Sylar gets medicated to the point of death, and miraculously "walks away".
Sylar gets shot at least twice by Bennett, and miraculously "walks away".

Each time, even though apparently hurt, Sylar comes out pretty much unscathed (other than the haircut). So WHY does he want Claire's powers? It appears he already has them or some form of them.

i think the way to explain that is he wants to be "special" -- ie, he wants to be the only person with special abilities. notice every time he has taken a power from someone else he has killed them. everyone assumes that he *has* to kill them to get their powers, but maybe he just does that so that he will be unique. if you recall the "6 months ago" episode, he was obsessed with being special.

If he doesn't need to kill them to take their powers, why slice open their skulls and pull the brain out? I think he wants to be special, but also has to perform an "autopsy" to get the power.

Actually i think he has to open up their heads to see how their brain works. He is a watchmaster. Knowledgeable about the inner workings of small things.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Question:

Sylar - Why is he hell-bent on getting Claire? You would think for the amazing regenerative powers right? But why? Let's examine this flaw in the plot shall we:

Sylar scuffles with Peter at the high school, falls off the top of whatever, and miraculously walks away.
Sylar gets medicated to the point of death, and miraculously "walks away".
Sylar gets shot at least twice by Bennett, and miraculously "walks away".

Each time, even though apparently hurt, Sylar comes out pretty much unscathed (other than the haircut). So WHY does he want Claire's powers? It appears he already has them or some form of them.

i think the way to explain that is he wants to be "special" -- ie, he wants to be the only person with special abilities. notice every time he has taken a power from someone else he has killed them. everyone assumes that he *has* to kill them to get their powers, but maybe he just does that so that he will be unique. if you recall the "6 months ago" episode, he was obsessed with being special.

If he doesn't need to kill them to take their powers, why slice open their skulls and pull the brain out? I think he wants to be special, but also has to perform an "autopsy" to get the power.

Actually i think he has to open up their heads to see how their brain works. He is a watchmaster. Knowledgeable about the inner workings of small things.

he knew how suresh's watch was broken w/o opening it, same w/ the roach

 

[randay]

YES! finally an asian chick.

 

[polm]

If Peter absorbed Sylars ability to learn and use the powers of others, he would still have to kill the others (like Sylar) to use that power. Right?

Why use Sylar-style power absorption (open head surgery) when Peter-style power absorption (emotional/memory connection) is considerably...cleaner?

 

[hdeck]

if peter absorbed sylar's ability then he would have a greater understanding of the inner-workings of objects/animals/people. he would still have his own ability of "learning" abilities by being close to someone with them.