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bdude

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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
who thinks a bullet will stop peter. what makes you think that? it took a large piece or glass and a large stick to stop both peter and claire, what makes you think a little bullet will cause him to die?

Well, didn't a bullet stop Claire when Parkman shot her in the house? It made her "dead" and gave them enough time to get her upstairs and away, so they could shoot peter and at least stop him for the time being

Indeed. We're all aware here who is in the wrong. :laugh:
 

OverVolt

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Aug 31, 2002
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Peter can't explode, it would defy was was in the previous episode of 5 years into the future. If Pete explodes at that moment, then the mind-reader, and Bennet would be dead.

Maybe he explodes on purpose?
 

bunnyfubbles

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Sep 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: OverVolt
Peter can't explode, it would defy was was in the previous episode of 5 years into the future. If Pete explodes at that moment, then the mind-reader, and Bennet would be dead.

Maybe he explodes on purpose?

I don't think you got things straight - that episode was about "this is how things will be if you don't change them". Thus we ultimately don't know what is going to happen and things are still left relatively wide open. It could be Peter, Ted, Sylar or even bomb for all we know that could be what the heroes ultimately have to stop if they stop it at all...and that explosion could kill off any or even every character. I guess the point I'm trying to emphasize is the future we saw probably isn't going to be future to come, so using it as a map isn't the way to go.
 

jdoggg12

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For the ones calling eachother idiots... you realize this is the internet right? you're arguing over it.... about a tv show.



Decent show - not nearly as good as last weeks show IMO
 

TheChort

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I don't know what to say about this episode, except that it was slow

Is it just me, or are others expecting the next two episode to be jam-packed full of action?
 

alrocky

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Jan 22, 2001
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After last week's alternate timeline climatic battle royale episode, this one had to settle as a stepping stone to the season finale.

I wonder if HRG knows that the Walker tracking system is a who and not a what.

If Hiro had not followed the Bushido Code, Sylar's mom would be alive. Sylar falls competely to the Dark Side after his mom's death, but unlike Anakin who didn't kill his own mom.

Hiro still has trouble controlling his power, especially when he's emotional. And he has trouble getting his bood up to whack ole Sylar, well because we all know that one's first kill is the hardest.

How does Hiro fix his sword?
 

bunnyfubbles

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Sep 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: TheChort
I don't know what to say about this episode, except that it was slow

Is it just me, or are others expecting the next two episode to be jam-packed full of action?

There really never has been any action in the series thus far...so no, I'm not really expecting much. Most of the action we have seen has been very short bursts of it.
 

hdeck

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Sep 26, 2002
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i love the canadian previews. they give away some stuff and still make you hate the wait until next monday.
 

Crafty35a

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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure

He could always get their powers just by being near them. He could fly before Nathan flew with him, he painted the future and wasn't around Isaac when he did it, he healed up fine at homecoming and wasn't near claire when she "used" her power. Etc.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're remembering things incorrectly.

1. Peter never flew until Nathan flew to catch him. Peter jumped off the building to prove that he could fly, but Nathan had to fly catch him since Peter wasn't able to control his ability.

2. Peter definitely was with Isaac when he first painted the future. He had just told Isaac that he was able to copy other people's abilities, then he was able to finish an unfinished painting in Isaac's apartment.

3. When Peter died at homecoming, he didn't heal until Claire returned. The healing thing seems to be a latent ability, not something that has to be controlled, so I don't see any reason why he would have to learn how to use the power.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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that was an ok episode. I thought the Sylar/mom scene was kind of corny though.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: Crafty35a
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're remembering things incorrectly.

1. Peter never flew until Nathan flew to catch him. Peter jumped off the building to prove that he could fly, but Nathan had to fly catch him since Peter wasn't able to control his ability.

2. Peter definitely was with Isaac when he first painted the future. He had just told Isaac that he was able to copy other people's abilities, then he was able to finish an unfinished painting in Isaac's apartment.

3. When Peter died at homecoming, he didn't heal until Claire returned. The healing thing seems to be a latent ability, not something that has to be controlled, so I don't see any reason why he would have to learn how to use the power.

In all 3 of those situations, Peter didn't know how to control his ability. Now, from the Brit's training, Peter knows how to recall powers at will (via remembering the person). It's quite possible that he did absorb them when they were close and use them latently, but he never knew how to control them before when they weren't around.
 

Crafty35a

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Originally posted by: Aikouka

In all 3 of those situations, Peter didn't know how to control his ability. Now, from the Brit's training, Peter knows how to recall powers at will (via remembering the person). It's quite possible that he did absorb them when they were close and use them latently, but he never knew how to control them before when they weren't around.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Originally, Peter was able to occasionally use the powers of people he was around, though he wasn't great at controlling it. Then, he could pretty much use at will the powers of those around him, but not when they were no longer around. You're right, Claude taught him to be able to recall and use these powers when he was no longer near the original owner of the power.

I'm not sure what you mean by "but he never knew how to control them before when they weren't around." It's not like anyone has ever straight up taught Peter how to use their power (except Claude, maybe). So it's always just been an absorbtion thing. However, it may well be that he has to be aware of what the power is before he is able to use it.
 

jdini76

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Mar 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
um...when time stops, can you still hear? I don't get it....this is such bs...

Time only stops from the persepctive of Hiro and who he touches. To Syler everything is normal and hiro is just moving extremely fast. I don't know the ratio, but I would take a guess that when Hiro stops time, every minute he stops is 1 second in normal time. I'm speculating though.

With that being said. It doesn't explain how syler was able to hear the heartbeats. I know he has the super hearing, but it would sound different if it were moving as fast as they supposedly are.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: Crafty35a
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Originally, Peter was able to occasionally use the powers of people he was around, though he wasn't great at controlling it. Then, he could pretty much use at will the powers of those around him, but not when they were no longer around. You're right, Claude taught him to be able to recall and use these powers when he was no longer near the original owner of the power.

I'm not sure what you mean by "but he never knew how to control them before when they weren't around." It's not like anyone has ever straight up taught Peter how to use their power (except Claude, maybe). So it's always just been an absorbtion thing. However, it may well be that he has to be aware of what the power is before he is able to use it.

I'm just mentioning that before peter didn't understand his own power, so I'd presume that being around the person made them "in his mind", which is the same premise he uses to use the powers at will. I'm wondering if teaching him how to grab the powers actually ended up making him worse since he wasn't fully taught. Because right now he's mimicking Ted's power, but he doesn't seem to know how to stop it.
 

jdini76

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Mar 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
um...when time stops, can you still hear? I don't get it....this is such bs...

Time only stops from the persepctive of Hiro and who he touches. To Syler everything is normal and hiro is just moving extremely fast. I don't know the ratio, but I would take a guess that when Hiro stops time, every minute he stops is 1 second in normal time. I'm speculating though.

With that being said. It doesn't explain how syler was able to hear the heartbeats. I know he has the super hearing, but it would sound different if it were moving as fast as they supposedly are.

Also, He may have powers that we don't know about yet. Like the freezing ability I haven't seen that before. He must have gained that before the story started.
 

ColdFusion718

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Mar 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Crafty35a
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure

He could always get their powers just by being near them. He could fly before Nathan flew with him, he painted the future and wasn't around Isaac when he did it, he healed up fine at homecoming and wasn't near claire when she "used" her power. Etc.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're remembering things incorrectly.

1. Peter never flew until Nathan flew to catch him. Peter jumped off the building to prove that he could fly, but Nathan had to fly catch him since Peter wasn't able to control his ability.

2. Peter definitely was with Isaac when he first painted the future. He had just told Isaac that he was able to copy other people's abilities, then he was able to finish an unfinished painting in Isaac's apartment.

3. When Peter died at homecoming, he didn't heal until Claire returned. The healing thing seems to be a latent ability, not something that has to be controlled, so I don't see any reason why he would have to learn how to use the power.

Both of you are over-analyzing stuff. This isn't like Lost. It's pretty much straight forward. Just keep watching to find out what is going to happen.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: jdini76
Also, He may have powers that we don't know about yet. Like the freezing ability I haven't seen that before. He must have gained that before the story started.

I believe that was Mr. Walker. As when they found him, his head was cut open and his body frozen.
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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What a weird ass episode. Seems this one did more to muddy the storeline(s) than anything other than Sylar killing mommy dearest.

At least the reunion at the end made it seem like things getting back on track.

I'm going to go on a limb and say that was the illusionist talking to Petrelli at the end and not mums.
 

TheChort

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May 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: lupi
What a weird ass episode. Seems this one did more to muddy the storeline(s) than anything other than Sylar killing mommy dearest.

At least the reunion at the end made it seem like things getting back on track.

I'm going to go on a limb and say that was the illusionist talking to Petrelli at the end and not mums.

that might be a strong limb

although, it DOES seem like everyone is getting on the bandwagon in favor of blowing up the city
 
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