[ Hexus ] Nvidia launches GeForce GT 710, says its 10x better than an IGP

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Stuka87

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I just do not see the purpose of this card, even for older systems. There are WAY better used cards for the same money.
 

NTMBK

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I just do not see the purpose of this card, even for older systems. There are WAY better used cards for the same money.

Not everybody trusts used parts, especially from 3rd parties that you don't know.
 

Charlie98

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Not everybody trusts used parts, especially from 3rd parties that you don't know.

And particularly at that low of a price point.

but it's shame it doesn't have the same video encoding/decoding capabilities as GM206, it would be nice to have small/cheap card for h265 and VP9.

That should have been the GTX950... but 'cheap' isn't a feature found on that card.
 

sm625

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HD4600 matches a GT720 in Fire Strike. There are no results for a 720 in ice storm, but the 730 beats the HD4600 by only roughly 10%. So it is a good bet the HD4600 will beat a 720 in ice storm. All newer broadwell and skylake iGPUs should be better than HD4600.
 

Golgatha

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Would be interesting to see how the street price on this GT 710 compares to the GT 720? (which I feel is overpriced considering back in 2014 the Zotac GT 630 (384 CUDA Core GK208) was regularly $34.99 shipped at Newegg).

Sadly that Zotac is still in my 2U server case HTPC upstairs because nothing better has been released on the market in a low profile form factor.
 

Shivansps

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Nah the Low end is always like that, look at the R5 230... its a HD5450. The R5 235 is a HD6450...
 
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Rngwn

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For some odd reason, the cheap OEM PCs in my country have something like GT705 with i3-6100 or i5-4670K with HD8490. (Dude, I can only presume that they put these card just for CUDA and Mantle. Amirite? Oh wait, the HD8490 doesn't have Mantle...)

This GT710 thing would definitely be an "upgrade" from those puny cards.
 

SPBHM

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For some odd reason, the cheap OEM PCs in my country have something like GT705 with i3-6100 or i5-4670K with HD8490. (Dude, I can only presume that they put these card just for CUDA and Mantle. Amirite? Oh wait, the HD8490 doesn't have Mantle...)

This GT710 thing would definitely be an "upgrade" from those puny cards.

geforce is good for gaming!

but realistically I can see some benefits, compatibility with older and not demanding games is better with Nvidia than Intel (funny I recently tried to use my Intel IGP for gaming, the first random game I tried, a DX8 game had some terrible bugs with it...)
also, at least with Sandy Bridge (I've seen similar comments from people with Haswell/Skylake, but hopefully I'm wrong) the overall performance from the IGP is not as consistent as I have with any dGPU, I mean if I load the IGP with a game and try to watch youtube videos or do other things at the same time it's terrible, also CPU load can affect the GPU performance for basic GPU use.. so yea, I can see a rebranded geforce/radeon which is slower for 3dmark being more appealing than an Intel IGP.
 

Lonyo

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I couldn't see from the article that NVidia claimed it would be 10x better.

However with that said, these cards isn't for people with relatively new IGPs. But for people with 6-10 year old systems. Sitting with X2/Core 2 and just need an IGP that can run Windows 10. And I am sure it will be 10x faster than those as well.

Here you go:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-710

Happy now?

It does, however, state "10x better performance" but "Gaming is even up to 80% faster".
So something that isn't gaming is 10x faster... whatever that might be. Some edge case OGL software? Something run on CUDA instead of OpenCL?

Some third parties have, however, said 10x faster, such as Palit (http://www.palit.biz/enews/event/worldwide/GT710/Palit-GTX710_series-en_01.php) and EVGA http://www.evga.com/articles/00979/EVGA-GeForce-GT-710/
 
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redzo

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I couldn't see from the article that NVidia claimed it would be 10x better.

However with that said, these cards isn't for people with relatively new IGPs. But for people with 6-10 year old systems. Sitting with X2/Core 2 and just need an IGP that can run Windows 10. And I am sure it will be 10x faster than those as well.
Good luck finding enough business P4's, first gen core or, hell yeah, even core 2 duos with un-popped psu and mb caps!

It's a useless product! Most of intel's igpu's are way better. Only a morron is about to upgrade a 8 year old company pc with a new gpu, especially those 10 year old ones: the motherboards and psu's are about to die or are dead already.
 

thesmokingman

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lol 6-10 yr old systems? That's like living so far below the poverty line... Logically, there would be more important things in life if you cannot replace a 6-10 yr old system. But hey, let's replace the gpu so you could hook up that 4k monitor right? Makes total sense.
 

poofyhairguy

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lol 6-10 yr old systems? That's like living so far below the poverty line... Logically, there would be more important things in life if you cannot replace a 6-10 yr old system. But hey, let's replace the gpu so you could hook up that 4k monitor right? Makes total sense.

Uh, I don't think any of these have a displayport or HDMI 2.0. So no 4K.

Last I checked the 750 ti is the cheapest thing Nvidia sells that could drive a 4K monitor properly.

These are useful just to run Windows 10 on old machines.
 

ShintaiDK

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Good luck finding enough business P4's, first gen core or, hell yeah, even core 2 duos with un-popped psu and mb caps!

It's a useless product! Most of intel's igpu's are way better. Only a morron is about to upgrade a 8 year old company pc with a new gpu, especially those 10 year old ones: the motherboards and psu's are about to die or are dead already.

Nobody uses 8 year old company PCs.

Its not a product for companies.

Even the IGP less Lynnfield is 6 years today.
 

ShintaiDK

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lol 6-10 yr old systems? That's like living so far below the poverty line... Logically, there would be more important things in life if you cannot replace a 6-10 yr old system. But hey, let's replace the gpu so you could hook up that 4k monitor right? Makes total sense.

So someone sits with say..i5 750. But Windows 10 doesn't support the dGPU or IGP. In your case they should buy an entirely new PC. Instead of a 30$ card that does all they need for a couple of years more? If not they are poor? And 4K minimum as well? Interesting view.
 

ElFenix

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eh, cheap way to run 6 monitors. traders will buy them.
 

FlippedBit

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Someone on a photography forum was looking for something like this to run Lightroom. He wanted something basic with passive cooling.

Ended up buying a Zotac I think, at the time.
 

MiddleOfTheRoad

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Another use -- fixing Neighbor's "garbage" (in my case)......

My neighbor just gave me a "dead" desktop to "scrap." Turns out it is a Alienware Area 51 with a Core 2 Quad Q9400. Powers right up, but no video. Yanked the video card, slapped in a Dell Nvidia GT 720 (that I bought for $17 used on eBay with free shipping).

With the GT 720 installed, she fires right up. Pretty cool box, actually... Even if dated. Runs every game flawless on the old 900p monitor I had sitting in the closet.

Best $17.00 build I've ever done. Low end cards are looking for a good home, too. Please adopt today

(Although, I have done some dumpster builds that were totally free back in the day -- piecing together 3 dead systems to make 1 working one).
 
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cbn

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HD4600 matches a GT720 in Fire Strike. There are no results for a 720 in ice storm, but the 730 beats the HD4600 by only roughly 10%. So it is a good bet the HD4600 will beat a 720 in ice storm.

You must be referring to the Fermi based GT 730.

My Kepler based GT 730 GDDR5 (with Athlon x4 860K) beats a A10-7870K iGPU with DDR3 2133 RAM by 7.7% in Firestrike:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37941558&postcount=413

And I know the A10-7870K iGPU is much better than the HD4600.
 
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daveybrat

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So here's what they stated:

Integrated GPU 1X - GT 710 2X in 3D gaming performance.

Now in small print it states: Geforce GPU vs Intel HD Graphics on G3220, 3DMark 11.

So they aren't even comparing it to an i3, i5, or i7 GPU, just the lowly Pentium Dual-Core HD graphics.

Still, for the price, it's definitely better than the low-end Geforce 210 that's only $5 less.
 

cbn

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Good luck finding enough business P4's, first gen core or, hell yeah, even core 2 duos with un-popped psu and mb caps!

It's a useless product! Most of intel's igpu's are way better. Only a morron is about to upgrade a 8 year old company pc with a new gpu, especially those 10 year old ones: the motherboards and psu's are about to die or are dead already.

I don't think the Core 2 machines had problems with caps. I know the Dell P4 ones did though:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/hardware/dell-tried-to-hide-bad-capacitors-problem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
 
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