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Juddog

Diamond Member
Dec 11, 2006
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Do you feel any guilt that your casual drug use funds Mexico's narco terrorists? If I was out there smoking, snorting, or shooting it up I would wonder if it came from the Zetas, a group that recently massacred 72 innocent people en masse who refused to particpate in the drug business. If I used drugs I would be shocked, embarrased and ashamed over this.

Obvious troll is obvious.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,167
1,638
126
I like the approach they've taken with cigarettes. Tax the crap out of it. Have the junkies make up our budget deficit.

That's a lot better than the current approach, though I think taxes should not be crazy high like that. Raising costs doesn't work much of a deterrent. It'll just mean that when poor people use it, they'll have to make more sacrifices or turn to crime to come up with the money to purchase.

Still, since I don't toke, I'd be pretty happy with your solution. It's not perfect, but, it's pretty damn good, and a LOT better than what we have now.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,534
911
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Do you feel any guilt that your casual drug use funds Mexico's narco terrorists? If I was out there smoking, snorting, or shooting it up I would wonder if it came from the Zetas, a group that recently massacred 72 innocent people en masse who refused to particpate in the drug business. If I used drugs I would be shocked, embarrased and ashamed over this.

Bah, those feelings are nothing a little weed wouldn't cure.
 

Nik

Lifer
Jun 5, 2006
16,101
2
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Do you feel any guilt that your casual drug use funds Mexico's narco terrorists? If I was out there smoking, snorting, or shooting it up I would wonder if it came from the Zetas, a group that recently massacred 72 innocent people en masse who refused to particpate in the drug business. If I used drugs I would be shocked, embarrased and ashamed over this.

Yes, because the guy smokin a joint and playing video games has blood on his hands
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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When I was addicted to heroin. Sometime I would look at it and wonder who died for it or who my money was being sent back to. I blamed the government for making it have to go though those channels. I also blamed them for making me have to steal to afford it. If it had been legal I could of gotten high all I wanted for a couple bucks like a homeless alcoholic. I would of only been sending my money to some suits and giving some americans some jobs. Why should anybody care if I waste my own life fuck stupid drug laws.

Were you using Mexican Brown/Black Tar heroin or "china white?"

If it was the former, then yes, you were helping to support the cartels and their violent ways. If it was the latter, you MAY have been helping to fund the Taliban.
 

AndroidVageta

Banned
Mar 22, 2008
2,421
0
0
Do you feel any guilt that your casual drug use funds Mexico's narco terrorists? If I was out there smoking, snorting, or shooting it up I would wonder if it came from the Zetas, a group that recently massacred 72 innocent people en masse who refused to particpate in the drug business. If I used drugs I would be shocked, embarrased and ashamed over this.

No the fuck you wouldn't be "thinking" you'd be high as fuck and wouldn't give a shit.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
64,218
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Yes, because the guy smokin a joint and playing video games has blood on his hands

That guy is every bit as guilty for the "blood on his hands" as the person who buys "conflict diamonds."

 

Dirigible

Diamond Member
Apr 26, 2006
5,960
30
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Tell you what, Felix. You stop making troll threads and I will stop paypaling cash to teh evil drug cartels. Deal?
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
36,138
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I love Mexican drug cartels, and send them a bonus check for every christian they massacre.
 

crownjules

Diamond Member
Jul 7, 2005
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0
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Yes, because the guy smokin a joint and playing video games has blood on his hands

Not literally, but the OP makes a valid point. Drug users are largely oblivious to the fact that the money they're spending on illegal drugs funds criminal elements. It's not just terrorists or drug cartels either. It could be local gangs too. It's the desire for that money that leads the more violent of those elements to kill people to secure/expand their profits and trade.

Of course, if the government never banned these substances in the first place, creating a black market in which criminals are allowed to turn a profit, then there wouldn't be this problem either. The US experimented with prohibition in the 20s and should have learned it's lesson then with Al Capone and the like. But that was on domestic ground whereas the cartels have stayed in Mexico, so out of sight out of mind. Though if the cartels start messing around on US ground like they have been in recent months then that might motivate the government to take stronger actions.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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Most of the pot consumed in the US comes from either the US itself or Canada and does not involve mexican cartels. The DEA inflates the actual size of the Mexican weed market because it uses high grade marijuana prices to describe its busts of Mexican weed shipments, even though high grade marijuana costs around 6 times as much as shitty Mexican weed, by volume.
 

skull

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2000
2,209
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Were you using Mexican Brown/Black Tar heroin or "china white?"

If it was the former, then yes, you were helping to support the cartels and their violent ways. If it was the latter, you MAY have been helping to fund the Taliban.

It was powder. My dealer said it came from chicago. Which probably means it came from the gangster disciples through africa from afghanistan. So yeah I probably funded the taliban.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
29,615
2,263
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Not literally, but the OP makes a valid point. Drug users are largely oblivious to the fact that the money they're spending on illegal drugs funds criminal elements. It's not just terrorists or drug cartels either. It could be local gangs too. It's the desire for that money that leads the more violent of those elements to kill people to secure/expand their profits and trade.

Of course, if the government never banned these substances in the first place, creating a black market in which criminals are allowed to turn a profit, then there wouldn't be this problem either. The US experimented with prohibition in the 20s and should have learned it's lesson then with Al Capone and the like. But that was on domestic ground whereas the cartels have stayed in Mexico, so out of sight out of mind. Though if the cartels start messing around on US ground like they have been in recent months then that might motivate the government to take stronger actions.

Thank you. One sensible poster on ATOT. The thing is your typical drug user lives in "lala land". If they had half a brain cell they would be well aware that their destructive behavior directly leads to thousands of dead people. This is why would should enhance laws against users as the violence increases. They are directly responsible for funding the madness in Mexico and around the world.

We need to seize their assests like the car they got busted in (even one joint) or set a minimum $10,000 fine to fund intradiction and enforcement of anti-doper laws. Maybe if we treat them like the criminal element they are they would start getting the message: People died so your mind could be fried.
 
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IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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3
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Thank you. One sensible poster on ATOT. The thing is your typical drug user lives in "lala land". If they had half a brain cell they would be well aware that their destructive behavior directly leads to thousands of dead people. This is why would should enhance laws against users as the violence increases. They are directly responsible for funding the madness in Mexico and around the world.

We need to seize thier assests like the car they got busted in (even one joint) or set a minimum $10,000 fine to fund intradiction and enforcement of anti-doper laws. Maybe if treat them like the criminal element they are they would start getting the message: People died so your mind could be fried.

So no repercussions for the financiers of all this drug money? The bankers get off scott free as usual....makes sense. Perhaps we should return to CIA backed coke trade?

Btw....nobody dies because of weed that grown in my friends basement.

your understanding of the global drug trade is non-existent from the shit your spewing. You make it sound like if the US went drug free tommorow the drug trade would end.

troll troll troll your boat.
 
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Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
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Thank you. One sensible poster on ATOT. The thing is your typical drug user lives in "lala land". If they had half a brain cell they would be well aware that their destructive behavior directly leads to thousands of dead people. This is why would should enhance laws against users as the violence increases. They are directly responsible for funding the madness in Mexico and around the world.

We need to seize thier assests like the car they got busted in (even one joint) or set a minimum $10,000 fine to fund intradiction and enforcement of anti-doper laws. Maybe if treat them like the criminal element they are they would start getting the message: People died so your mind could be fried.


...or you can do the sensible thing and legalize/regulate/tax, but that's probably too forward thinking for you
 
Nov 7, 2000
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drug laws enabled the black market, not drug users

drug users would probably prefer to get their substances via legitimate channels, the anti-drug lobby made that an impossibility. in truth, the blood is on YOUR hands.

ftr, i am not a drug user.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
drug laws enabled the black market, not drug users

drug users would probably prefer to get their substances via legitimate channels, the anti-drug lobby made that an impossibility. in truth, the blood is on YOUR hands.

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