High E6600 Temps?

[imported_itsmezed]

Using CoreTemp and the Intel thermal analysis tool, I'm showing 40-42c idle, and that's with default voltage. It hits another 10c higher than that with both cores under 100% load. Right now, I have it watercooled using a Koolance Exos and AS5 under the water block, so you would think it would be somewhat lower (and oddly turning the fans up full blast on it makes little difference). I'm wondering if having the X1900XT in the cooling loop would jack the temps that much?

I've gotten a stable overclock at 390x9 @ 1.4625v, and idle there reads high 40s / low 50s, again about +10c for both cores on 100% load. Ran dual Prime overnight for 8+ hours though and no errors. Works fine for games, as well, but I am concerned that's too much voltage and/or heat.

Should I just take the videocard out of the loop? I'm only watercooling it to cut down on the noise, anyway.

 

[TheRyuu]

Feel the air coming out the back of the rad (make sure it's just regular air going into it, not warm air from the computer) and see if you can feel heat coming from the fans on it.

If you can feel heat you need a bigger rad. (were talking regular room temp air going in, and you can feel warm air coming out the back. That = bad)

Sometimes not having any airflow around the processor can also make it seem like the temperature is higher then it actually is.
Try pointing a fan at the CPU to see if anything happens.
I'd try everything to try and keep the X1900XT in the loop. Which means you might need a bigger/better rad or some other WC components.
Because a +10C under load with WATERCOOLING isn't the best. Mine goes from ~31 idle to ~35 load. And I have a AMD Opty which probably runs hotter then your CPU.

 

[smopoim86]

i'ts a watercooling kit, it isn't gonna perform much better than high end air.

and if you're on water for noise then you better not take that x1900 out of the loop, especially if you would have the stock heatsink (those things are irritatingly loud)

 

[TheRyuu]

I think you might want to look into upgrading your WC kit into somthing a little more custom.
Read every sticky on this page:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70

Edit: Also not that I know much about Conroe OCing but isn't 1.46v on a 65nm CPU a little bit too high?

 

[imported_itsmezed]

It's a Koolance Exos external water cooling system. You can't change the radiator out. Anything better would have to be external, and then we are talking about $300+ and the cost of new water blocks. The Antec P180 case is nice and quiet, but there isn't room inside for anything else, really.

I still think that with stock speeds and voltage that lows 40s for idle seems way too high. Maybe a better cpu waterblock?

 

[neuralnut]

If you are getting high temperatures using coretemp, there is a simple solution.

Stop using coretemp, the temps it reports dont seem to be comparable with other monitoring programs.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: itsmezed
It's a Koolance Exos external water cooling system. You can't change the radiator out. Anything better would have to be external, and then we are talking about $300+ and the cost of new water blocks. The Antec P180 case is nice and quiet, but there isn't room inside for anything else, really.

I still think that with stock speeds and voltage that lows 40s for idle seems way too high. Maybe a better cpu waterblock?

It may seem high compared to some people who report temps, but the P180 insulates the system a bit as well and your room temp may not be super low either.

 

[imported_itsmezed]

Room temp is 70ish. Oh, and I measured the temps with both CoreTemp and the Intel Thermal Analysis Tool. I have a feeling that I may have cut the water cooling loop a bit too long, plus having the video card in it, I don't think the CPU block I used from my old Thermaltake BigWater system is making good contact (big honkin' copper thing that it may be). I think I will suck it up and get the better Koolance made block and give that a go.

 

[Maximilian]

Its fiiiine, itll be higher than those with 6400/6300m due to the extra cache most likely. They can take up to 60.4*C and as cmddredd mentioned, your room temp may differ from others. Hell i dont know my room temp but im pretty sure its the cause of me idling at 34*C with an opty 170 and other idling in the high 20's with the same CPU. Its still within acceptable numbers.

 

[DJ Mike]

Originally posted by: neuralnut
If you are getting high temperatures using coretemp, there is a simple solution.

Stop using coretemp, the temps it reports dont seem to be comparable with other monitoring programs.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with that entirely. All I've read on these and other forums suggests that the people who deny that Core Temp is accurate are the ones who don't like the high readings it reports for their precious machines.

I refitted my Scythe Ninja HSF three times, and on the third try I was finally able to get the balance of TIM just right, and my Core Temp readings at 100% load with Orthos dropped all the way to 58C @ 300FSB (2.7Ghz), from a whopping 72C previously.

I expect I could drop the temperature even further if I tried, but I'm really not fussed enough to worry about it - certainly, I don't plan on overclocking very much further as it is!

 

[imported_itsmezed]

I have the same mobo as you, DJ Mike. So does that mean when I was cranking along at 3.5GHz (390x9), 1.4625v, and seing 63-65 with both cores at 100%, that the temp wasn't actually all that bad?

 

[DJ Mike]

Sure That sounds like a nice temp, to be honest with you. I haven't tried cranking my board up that high, but if I could do it and get 65C under load I'd be a very happy bunny.

From the looks of things, your voltage is more likely to undermine the life of the processor than your max temperature is (I run mine at 1.225V for what it's worth).

 

[imported_itsmezed]

Well... this last upgrade was the longest I have gone between CPU upgrades, about 2 years. So if I get that long out of it I'd be fine. At "auto" voltage I believe I had it at 333 FSB. Still, I think I will get that better Koolance block as the bottom should make better contact than this copper Thermaltake one. Probably wrothwhile taking the vidcard out of the cooling loop too as when I do Crossfire I wont be able to watercool both anyway ;-)

 

[cmdrdredd]

Let me explain something that most people forget. During gaming, video encoding, mp3 encoding and other general tasks your CPU is never stressed as much as prime95/sp2004/orthos would. Those programs force your CPU to heat up and do not represent an everyday real world test. If your temps get high using that program it doesn't mean your colling solution sucks. Under general usage you will probably be 100% stable and run just fine. It's ok to use these prime95 based apps to do a torture test, but don't put all your faith in that application. I wasted many hours with this on my x2 3800+ and eventually decided that when I can play Quake4 or Oblivion for hours at a time without any slowdown/hickups/crashes that my solution was plenty.