High Failure Rate in Radeon 7970s

[UNhooked]

My vendor of choice would be Diamond>Sapphire>MSI=GigaByte. I wouldn't personally recommend XFX since they silently switch components.

One of my card is an XFX and even though it uses a ref cooler and supposed to be a Reference card, the pcb is different as in it doesn't have the bios switch that all ref 7970s have.

 

[wand3r3r]

Warranty info
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArCtGVODPUTtdEdEUjRiSFdyckZ1Q1dGNUI3bkd5R1E#gid=0

I'd go EVGA> MSI > Gigabye maybe. > all the rest

I just had a major hassle with Asus and an RMA so I'll avoid them personally for a while.

EVGA and MSI are both serial based, and both allow removing the cooler/tim etc. They both have good cards and the Lightnings are fun to play with.

 

[UNhooked]

Warranty info
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArCtGVODPUTtdEdEUjRiSFdyckZ1Q1dGNUI3bkd5R1E#gid=0

I'd go EVGA> MSI > Gigabye maybe. > all the rest

I just had a major hassle with Asus and an RMA so I'll avoid them personally for a while.

EVGA and MSI are both serial based, and both allow removing the cooler/tim etc. They both have good cards and the Lightnings are fun to play with.

I don't think eVGA makes 7970's so....

 

[wand3r3r]

Yeah I am more talking in General (EVGA is NV only). As far as 7950's go it'd be MSI or Sapphire as they both have good unlocked options for a reasonable price.

 

[Majcric]

It's not just Newegg reviews though take a quick glance through our forums here since the 7XXX was released. There seems to be a lot more radeon users that are showing up with issues i.e the 7xxx series. And this shouldn't be the case especially if Nvidia has more GPU's out there.

Come on AMD, now is your time to shine with NVidia's outrageous pricing.

 

[Cloudfire777]

It's not just Newegg reviews though take a quick glance through our forums here since the 7XXX was released. There seems to be a lot more radeon users are showing up with issues i.e the 7xxx series. And this shouldn't be the case especially if Nvidia has more GPU's out there.

Come on AMD, now is your time to shine with NVidia's outrageous pricing.

AMDs worst enemy seems to be AMD. :biggrin:

 

[Rikard]

This is pretty old, but still food for thought:

- Sapphire 1.32% (against 1.20%)
- ASUS 1.53% (against 1.55%)
- PNY 1.56% (against 1.62%)
- MSI 1.69% (against 2.25%)
- Gigabyte 1.82% (against 2.18%)
- Gainward 2.05% (against 2.43%)

Sapphire retains its position at the head of the field. Several manufacturers see their returns rate drop significantly: MSI, Gigabyte and Gainward. 6 cards have a higher than 5% rate:

- 16.89% for the Gainward GeForce GTX 580 "Phantom" 1.5 GB
- 7.87% for the Gainward GeForce GTX 580 "Phantom" 3 GB
- 6.19% for the Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3 GB (21197-00-40G)
- 5.69% for the ASUS EAH6950 DCII/2DI4S/2GD5 2 GB
- 5.56% for the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti OC 1 GB

The GTX 580 Phantoms have been problematic indeed, especially the 1.5 GB model. Sapphire, though with the best average score, still has a high rate on its first 7970, just like ASUS and Gigabyte on other GPUs.

Here are the figures by GPU:

- Radeon HD 6870: 2.89% (against 2.00%)
- Radeon HD 6950: 2.04% (against 4.08%)
- Radeon HD 6970: 4.03% (against 5.85%)
- Radeon HD 7950: 4.44% (N/A)
- Radeon HD 7970: 5.56% (N/A)
- GeForce GTX 560 Ti: 1.87% (against 3.77%)
- GeForce GTX 570: 2.58% (against 2.49%)
- GeForce GTX 580: 7.56% (against 5.68%)

Compared to the previous period, the Radeon HD 6950 and GeForce GTX 560 Ti see a significant improvement in reliability. The higher you go up the range, the higher the returns rate, whether for the Radeon HD 7970s or the GeForce GTX 580s. If we exclude the two Gainward Phantom’s from the figures for the GTX 580, its figures drop back to 5.27%.

Source: http://www.behardware.com/articles/881-5/components-returns-rates-7.html

 

[Rvenger]

AMDs worst enemy seems to be AMD. :biggrin:

You are your worst enemy.


Let's talk about EVGA GTX 670 SC epic fail... or wait, the RSOD issue on the GTX 680s.. or the sudden degradation of the GK104 chips when pushed too far. I can go on and on. Newegg reviews are useless.


Quit trolling, doesn't work here and I am not stupid.

 

[Cloudfire777]

You are your worst enemy.


Let's talk about EVGA GTX 670 SC epic fail... or wait, the RSOD issue on the GTX 680s.. or the sudden degradation of the GK104 chips when pushed too far. I can go on and on. Newegg reviews are useless.


Quit trolling, doesn't work here and I am not stupid.

Making up stories that really wasn`t a major problem now to cover up your AMD feelings ey? Degradation of GK104 chips? LOL you are clueless. If that really was a wide spread problem we would have heard about it all over the internet and noone would have bought 680 or 670. But nice try.

EVGA GTX 670 SC here.: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130785

10% that rate it 1 or two eggs. Perfectly along with the rest GTX 680s which I posted earlier.

Newegg reviews useless? Actually they give a pretty good picture on the quality of a product since its consumers that write them and they are verified owners.

Much better than your fairytales and silly excuses to shift away the focus that AMD have a roughly 20% bad rating on the 7970GHz at Newegg which is HORRIBLE. D:

 

[Firestorm007]

Making up stories that really wasn`t a major problem now to cover up your AMD feelings ey? Degradation of GK104 chips? LOL you are clueless. If that really was a wide spread problem we would have heard about it all over the internet and noone would have bought 680 or 670. But nice try.

EVGA GTX 670 SC here.: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130785

10% that rate it 1 or two eggs. Perfectly along with the rest GTX 680s which I posted earlier.

Newegg reviews useless? Actually they give a pretty good picture on the quality of a product since its consumers that write them and they are verified owners.

Much better than your fairytales and silly excuses to shift away the focus that AMD have a roughly 20% bad rating on the 7970GHz at Newegg which is HORRIBLE. D:

Newegg Reviews. I've heard it all now...LMAO!

 

[philipma1957]

Making up stories that really wasn`t a major problem now to cover up your AMD feelings ey? Degradation of GK104 chips? LOL you are clueless. If that really was a wide spread problem we would have heard about it all over the internet and noone would have bought 680 or 670. But nice try.

EVGA GTX 670 SC here.: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130785

10% that rate it 1 or two eggs. Perfectly along with the rest GTX 680s which I posted earlier.

Newegg reviews useless? Actually they give a pretty good picture on the quality of a product since its consumers that write them and they are verified owners.

Much better than your fairytales and silly excuses to shift away the focus that AMD have a roughly 20% bad rating on the 7970GHz at Newegg which is HORRIBLE. D:

that is worthless due to amd being used to make money doing bitcoin mining.

I run 14 cards 24/7 since july. No failures of a single chip (fan failures in the xfx's) so if a (moron) was too strong ignorant is more accurate, does bitcoin mining at stock clock for a few months he kills off the fans. underclock all of them.

Every chips still works! 14 cards x 8 months = 112 months of run time with zero chip failures.

100% use but underclocked.

1.1 volts down to .95
vram 1.6 volts down to 1.5

temps under 70c even under 60c fans 50% to 70%.


My point is how many of the reviews that give a fail to amd were mining?

At a high clock.

Now Nvidia does not have this issue since it is not being done much.

 

[Rvenger]

LOL you are clueless.

Ya ok. You believe that and I will stop here. I'm sure others aren't taking your bait. We're done here.

Got banned on overclock.net (some moderators there didnt like me, lol) so I`m moving in here. Hope you don`t mind

:hmm:

 

[wand3r3r]

Ya ok. You believe that and I will stop here. I'm sure others aren't taking your bait. We're done here.

:hmm:

He's already been told his trolling will result in a ban here at AT if he doesn't lay off. He edits his posts after insulting and tries to remove evidence (Including Mod warnings - lol ) but the Mods will know they've warned him. I'd give him about a month max before he'll be banned here too for continuously attacking anything about card manufacturer A and loving B. Best to just ignore him.

(Dunno if I can/should say that, just letting you know to avoid being trolled)

 

[Cloudfire777]

Ya ok. You believe that and I will stop here. I'm sure others aren't taking your bait. We're done here.


:hmm:

Right so you don`t know what to say do counter my arguments, so instead you find excuses. Well done sir.

(I use Newegg lots of times before buying SSDs and deciding what brand I want to buy. I avoided Vertex 2 just because of the ratings. Intel and Samsung SSDs get good ratings from customers. OCZ had bad ratings before. Now it looks like they improved their SSDs since the ratings are looking pretty good there. NewEgg are actually very helpful.)

He's already been told his trolling will result in a ban here at AT if he doesn't lay off. He edits his posts after insulting and tries to remove evidence (Including Mod warnings - lol ) but the Mods will know they've warned him. I'd give him about a month max before he'll be banned here too for continuously attacking anything about card manufacturer A and loving B. Best to just ignore him.

(Dunno if I can/should say that, just letting you know to avoid being trolled)

I removed the insults therefor I removed the warnings from the moderator. What good do a warning do when there is nothing to complain about? I already recieved the warning so.
The moderator didn`t say he was gonna ban me either. He told me he was gonna give me an infraction. Do you understand the difference?

Seriously, try to think for a minute before posting next time ey?

 

[Keysplayr]

He's already been told his trolling will result in a ban here at AT if he doesn't lay off. He edits his posts after insulting and tries to remove evidence (Including Mod warnings - lol ) but the Mods will know they've warned him. I'd give him about a month max before he'll be banned here too for continuously attacking anything about card manufacturer A and loving B. Best to just ignore him.

(Dunno if I can/should say that, just letting you know to avoid being trolled)

I don't "think" he can be banned for attacking manufacturer A and loving B, if that is the case. He can be banned for attacking other members continuously, as you are doing to him now. It's called character assassination or an attempt anyway. Why don't you guys just battle about the thread topic, back up your data, and let that decide the winner of the debate. Forget about what you think of the other member for having the opinions that they do. That wont get you anywhere, ever, except banned after about a million personal attacks.
/2cents from someone who has seen the light.

 

[Cloudfire777]

I don't "think" he can be banned for attacking manufacturer A and loving B, if that is the case. He can be banned for attacking other members continuously, as you are doing to him now. It's called character assassination or an attempt anyway. Why don't you guys just battle about the thread topic, back up your data, and let that decide the winner of the debate. Forget about what you think of the other member for having the opinions that they do. That wont get you anywhere, ever, except banned after about a million personal attacks.
/2cents from someone who has seen the light.

Well said :thumbsup:

 

[lagokc]

Newegg Reviews. I've heard it all now...LMAO!

A newegg reviewer calling his tech expertise "high" is about as suspicious as a girl on a dating site referring to her bodytype as "curvy".

 

[sze5003]

No problems here with my saphire vapor x. Great card and its also a known brand. Cant trust most newegg reviews.

 

[Rikard]

I have no idea why you go on about newegg reviews, you could as well ask your mothers which card is better... I already gave you the hard facts: Radeon HD 7970 has 5.56% failure rate, which is more than GeForce GTX 570 (2.58%) and less than GeForce GTX 580 (7.56%). I would expect that site to update with 6XX series in about a month, maybe even Titan.

 

[wand3r3r]

I have no idea why you go on about newegg reviews, you could as well ask your mothers which card is better... I already gave you the hard facts: Radeon HD 7970 has 5.56% failure rate, which is more than GeForce GTX 570 (2.58%) and less than GeForce GTX 580 (7.56%). I would expect that site to update with 6XX series in about a month, maybe even Titan.

Probably just because it supports an agenda.

 

[Cloudfire777]

I have no idea why you go on about newegg reviews, you could as well ask your mothers which card is better... I already gave you the hard facts: Radeon HD 7970 has 5.56% failure rate, which is more than GeForce GTX 570 (2.58%) and less than GeForce GTX 580 (7.56%). I would expect that site to update with 6XX series in about a month, maybe even Titan.

So are you saying that people bought a 7970 from Newegg, sent in information about their purchase to become an confirmed owner, just to write bad stuff about the GPU? To troll the ratings?

It doesn`t make any sense other than that 7970 have a worse quality problem than 680. Well there is one other possibility: drivers. But most of the concerns are about dead cards.

 

[sze5003]

So are you saying that people bought a 7970 from Newegg, sent in information about their purchase to become an confirmed owner, just to write bad stuff about the GPU? To troll the ratings?

It doesn`t make any sense other than that 7970 have a worse quality problem than 680.

I think both companies have quality issues at one point. How do we know those with 680 or 7970 had issues and just returned it without a review. Or had no issues and are enjoying it rather than reviewing. Who knows who cares lol there's free games

 

[raghu78]

So are you saying that people bought a 7970 from Newegg, sent in information about their purchase to become an confirmed owner, just to write bad stuff about the GPU? To troll the ratings?

It doesn`t make any sense other than that 7970 have a worse quality problem than 680.

if a product works as advertised you are less likely to sit and write the feedback. but on the other hand a person who gets a faulty card or has problems will mostly give a negative feedback to warn others. its human nature to not bother when things work as expected but get very irritated when it does not.

 

[Cloudfire777]

I think both companies have quality issues at one point. How do we know those with 680 or 7970 had issues and just returned it without a review. Or had no issues and are enjoying it rather than reviewing. Who knows who cares lol

Yup that is true, but many come to brag about the GPUs too. Perhaps the ratio of happy vs unhappy is a bit skewed, but so can be said about GTX 680, yet it have more happy ratings than unhappy...

Bah, like you say, /care.
I`m not gonna waste any more time on this. NewEgg have never been accurate in percentages anyway due to what you and raghu say, but you get a good sense on what to expect.

I remember Vertex 2 from OCZ. About 45% that rated it 1 or 2 eggs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227550

 

[Rezist]

Looking at all the GTX 6xx series failing it seems the bad is going everywhere.