High fructose corn syrup... er, I mean "Cornsugar."

[SunnyD]

Yes, let's change the name so we can save our flagging sales.

Here's to hoping the FDA doesn't approve the request.

 

[ixelion]

That shit is in everything, industry only uses is it because corn is easy and cheap to produce, they don't give a shit if it kills us. And now they want to change the name so they can continue duping people into giving them cash, and in return we reap the benefits of adult onset diabetes. Fuck them.

 

[Sluggo]

If people would spend 5 extra minutes at the grocery store looking whats actually in the products they buy and choosing wisely about what they stuff in their mouth this would not be an issue.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Ahh, the irrational fear of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Read up (along with the references):
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4157

The two monosaccharides we're discussing are glucose and fructose. Regular table sugar is a disaccharide of glucose and fructose, which means that the two monosaccharides are chemically bound into a larger, more complex disaccharide molecule called sucrose. That's sugar. HFCS consists of the same two monosaccharides, only they're just mixed in together, the molecules are not bound.

When you consume regular sugar, sucrose, the first thing your digestive system does is break the chemical bond and separate it into glucose and fructose. So once saccharides are in your body, it makes very little difference whether they came in as table sugar or as HFCS. You can also cook table sugar, and unbind the saccharides that way. The corn lobby is always saying that HFCS is nutritionally the same as sugar, and this is what they're talking about.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I don't give a god damn what they call it, fattys will still be fat.

 

[routan]

That shit is in everything, industry only uses is it because corn is easy and cheap to produce, they don't give a shit if it kills us. And now they want to change the name so they can continue duping people into giving them cash, and in return we reap the benefits of adult onset diabetes. Fuck them.

i thought it was more to do with heavy government subsidies on on corn productions?

 

[acheron]

I could see calling real corn syrup "corn sugar" -- it's glucose, rather than sucrose like cane or beet sugar, but it's still a sugar produced from corn -- but after you process it into HFCS, it's not just "corn sugar" anymore. Call it "high fructose corn sugar" if you want, but you still need to distinguish it from pure corn syrup/sugar.

 

[SunnyD]

If people would spend 5 extra minutes at the grocery store looking whats actually in the products they buy and choosing wisely about what they stuff in their mouth this would not be an issue.

I went to pick up some croutons yesterday. 4 different brands with several different varieties on the shelf. Only ONE didn't have HFCS in it.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

It's because of a combination of sugar tariffs and the corn lobby. Some places use corn syrup because it's less granular than sugar and results in a less gritty final product.

 

[SunnyD]

Ahh, the irrational fear of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Read up (along with the references):
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4157

So they're already broken down facilitating absorption more readily than sucrose. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[alfa147x]

High Fructose Corn Syrup taste like shit

 

[Nik]

who the fuck cares? it's no different than sugar

 

[MiniDoom]

if you sit around pounding sodas all day cane sugar or hfcs, you're gonna get fat.

 

[Vette73]

High Fructose Corn Syrup taste like shit

This.

Nestle Quick chocolate syrup taste much better then heresy’s now. I look at the ingredient list and the only major difference was one used sugar and the other corn syrup.

 

[Gibsons]

So they're already broken down facilitating absorption more readily than sucrose. Thanks for clearing that up.

Sucrose gets broken down and absorbed very rapidly, there's no real difference in absorption rate.

 

[Homerboy]

I just ate a whole bag of Brachs Candy Corn. Delicious. I don't give a shit what is in it or what you call it.

 

[dullard]

Ahh, the irrational fear of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Close, but not quite correct. I like science, but lets get the true science in here instead. Table sugar and HFCS have the same two chemical parts (glucose and fructose), but in different concentrations. There are different forms of HFCS, with the concentrations of the two sugars varying. The typical version used in soft drinks has more fructose than table sugar (55% fructose instead of 50%). The concentration difference is small but significant.

Fructose is slightly less healthy than glucose. Slight, but still significant. Thus, for a given amount of HFCS 55, it is slightly less healthy than the same amount of table sugar because there is a slight bit more fructose. Of course, the tradeoff is you can use less HFCS 55 than table sugar since HFCS 55 is slightly sweeter. So the question becomes, do people use less HFCS 55 or not?

 

[Homerboy]

Close, but not quite correct. I like science, but lets get the true science in here instead. Table sugar and HFCS have the same two chemical parts (glucose and fructose), but in different concentrations. There are different forms of HFCS, with the concentrations of the two sugars varying. The typical version used in soft drinks has more fructose than table sugar (55% fructose instead of 50%). The concentration difference is small but significant.

Fructose is slightly less healthy than glucose. Slight, but still significant. Thus, for a given amount of HFCS 55, it is slightly less healthy than the same amount of table sugar. Of course, the tradeoff is you can use less HFCS 55 than table sugar since HFCS 55 is slightly sweeter.

Soif you use less, then it evens out?

 

[dullard]

Soif you use less, then it evens out?

For the most part, yes. Of course HFCS 55 also has 2% maltose (which is barely sweet) and 2% other carbohydrates (mostly corn starch, so barely sweet if at all), so it is hard to use much less HFCS 55 and still be tasty.

 

[Beev]

I like the taste of sugar more than HFCS. I also do not like it when a company, or group of companies selling the same product, aggressively market their product to facilitate their own greed. Yes, every company exists to make money, but companies that are so greedy they are willing to pretend their product isn't not healthy can fuck right off. I remember a semi-recent HFCS commercial that was basically like "it isn't as unhealthy as you think!" Maybe, but it's still not healthy, you fucks.

 

[ixelion]

absorption rates are irrelevant, the fact that it's in EVERYTHING, and i do mean EVERYTHING - is why it's bad for you. Imagine taking a spoonful of table sugar every time you ate something.

 

[LTC8K6]

i thought it was more to do with heavy government subsidies on on corn productions?

Yep, and on ethanol...

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Close, but not quite correct. I like science, but lets get the true science in here instead. Table sugar and HFCS have the same two chemical parts (glucose and fructose), but in different concentrations. There are different forms of HFCS, with the concentrations of the two sugars varying. The typical version used in soft drinks has more fructose than table sugar (55% fructose instead of 50%). The concentration difference is small but significant.

There is a difference in the glucose content too - wikipedia puts it at 42% glucose instead of 50% glucose, plus you can't say the difference is significant without something to back it up... (well you can but you won't be statistically correct).

Fructose is slightly less healthy than glucose.

Link?

Slight, but still significant. Thus, for a given amount of HFCS 55, it is slightly less healthy than the same amount of table sugar because there is a slight bit more fructose. Of course, the tradeoff is you can use less HFCS 55 than table sugar since HFCS 55 is slightly sweeter. So the question becomes, do people use less HFCS 55 or not?

They don't because HFCS 55 has a comparable sweetness to sucrose (so you would use about as much).

However it doesn't address the use of HFCS 42 which contains less fructose than sucrose does. Which makes it complicated (it's not as sweet).

 

[PlasmaBomb]

absorption rates are irrelevant, the fact that it's in EVERYTHING, and i do mean EVERYTHING - is why it's bad for you. Imagine taking a spoonful of table sugar every time you ate something.

If HFCS was banned the companies would probably do just that... (put sugar in everything...)

 

[Homerboy]

absorption rates are irrelevant, the fact that it's in EVERYTHING, and i do mean EVERYTHING - is why it's bad for you. Imagine taking a spoonful of table sugar every time you ate something.

If it is in EVERYTHING as you say, then I don't have to imagine it do I?