High Performance Vid Bios

[THUGSROOK]

yep, you sure can


TY

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

Originally posted by: MartinCracauer
I have an eVGA Ultra, so by default I would underclock the card from 400 to 350 with that BIOS.

Do I understand correctly that with the new BIOS there is no difference between a GT and an Ultra? Until you overclock where a card that was an Ultra originally will likely go higher?

your card will register as a GT with the new bios. (thats ok dont worry about that)

> GT cards will OC farther
> Ultra cards will OC a little farther
> Ultra cards will be much faster at the same clock due to faster mem timings.
> both cards will idle with a lower temp (Ultra more so)

this is why i nick named the file "GTU", it the best of both worlds for both cards

:beer:

do you mean GT cards will be much faster at the same clock due to faster mem timings? i thought ultras timings were relaxed

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: zakee00
do you mean GT cards will be much faster at the same clock due to faster mem timings? i thought ultras timings were relaxed

no no no, you are misinterpriting what i was tryin to say. let me rephrase...

Ultra cards with the GTU bios will be much faster then a Ultra card with a Ultra bios at the same clock.

both cards will be equally as fast as each other at the same clock if using the GTU bios.

hows that?

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

Originally posted by: zakee00
do you mean GT cards will be much faster at the same clock due to faster mem timings? i thought ultras timings were relaxed

no no no, you are misinterpriting what i was tryin to say. let me rephrase...

Ultra cards with the GTU bios will be much faster then a Ultra card with a Ultra bios at the same clock.

both cards will be equally as fast as each other at the same clock if using the GTU bios.

hows that?

oh i gotcha, because the GTU bios makes the Ultra's have GT timings. Nice!

 

[THUGSROOK]

OK, im pulling the plug on GT card support. too many of them cant handle the 1.4v requirement

this bios is now only for Ultra cards and Ultra PCB based cards. Ultra PCB based cards can handle upto 1.6v so there is no problem there.

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
OK, im pulling the plug on GT card support. too many of them cant handle the 1.4v requirement

this bios is now only for Ultra cards and Ultra PCB based cards. Ultra PCB based cards can handle upto 1.6v so there is no problem there.

really, mine seemed to work fine when i voltmodded it to 1.4v, but the temps were pretty bad (almost 90C load) so i dropped it back down to 1.3V. i want new cooling
are people having problems because of temps?

 

[THUGSROOK]

no, some GT cards just plain arent built well enough to handle 1.4v at all. has nothing todo with cooling, its poor quality electronics and PCB.

if your GT card can run 1.4v feel free to use it, but if it doesnt work there is nothing you or i can do about it. youll know during your 1st benchmark if it works or not.

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
no, some GT cards just plain arent built well enough to handle 1.4v at all. has nothing todo with cooling, its poor quality electronics and PCB.

if your GT card can run 1.4v feel free to use it, but if it doesnt work there is nothing you or i can do about it. youll know during your 1st benchmark if it works or not.

kind of a n00b question, but do you really think it could damage the card in the long run, cooling aside?

 

[THUGSROOK]

the better cooling you have the better off youll be.

long run?
2 years? na
5 years? who cares

 

[darkswordsman17]

I don't know if you've already detailed this, and sorry if you have, but you might want to explain what justifies Ultra PCB based cards.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

off and on topic..Thugs..seen any 6800nu bios's out there?

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't know if you've already detailed this, and sorry if you have, but you might want to explain what justifies Ultra PCB based cards.

an Ultra PCB has dual molex power connections.

a few GT cards are Ultra PCB with only a single molex (like Gainward) but they are very rare. (they usually have dual DVI ports)

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
off and on topic..Thugs..seen any 6800nu bios's out there?

not personally, but i havent had the time to even pay attention. might wanna try MVKTech.net forums and see whats going on in there.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Great info, yet again.

I believe I actually have such a card. I got one of the early Golden Sample GTs that had dual DVI. I'll have to take a closer look to see, but I'm thinking it is because I don't think Gainward had laid out their GT yet and so decided to just throw it on the Ultra board until they could.

 

[THUGSROOK]

at Gainward quality is #1, thats why their cards cost so much.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
hehe~
you guys can debate the AS5/ASC thing all ya want

i suggest ASC

I agree, ASC is what I use as well. I love the stuff.

 

[genghislegacy]

the golden samples are good but the cost is not proportional. yes they should charge higher for the effort, but not that high.

 

[THUGSROOK]

yea they are very expensive, but then again how can anyone justify $450-$650 for a vid card?
i remember when $300 was concidered TOP DOLLAR.

the sad part.... we're buying them

 

[darkswordsman17]

Well, I only paid $425 plus shipping (I had it overnighted so I could set everything up the weekend before school started back up), and this was when you couldn't find a normal GT for anywhere near MSRP.

I had been deadset on an Ultra, but seeing how hard it would be to get one, I thought I'd just go ahead and jump on a GT, and then ended up with tbe best of both worlds.

 

[THUGSROOK]

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Well, I only paid $425 plus shipping (I had it overnighted so I could set everything up the weekend before school started back up), and this was when you couldn't find a normal GT for anywhere near MSRP.

I had been deadset on an Ultra, but seeing how hard it would be to get one, I thought I'd just go ahead and jump on a GT, and then ended up with tbe best of both worlds.

youve got yourself one hellova great card there
(its very perdy too)

 

[THUGSROOK]

UPDATE

the GTU bios flashdisk has been updated to rev2.

> removed vid boot screen



bout freekin time eh?

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
UPDATE

the GTU bios flashdisk has been updated to rev2.

> removed vid boot screen



bout freekin time eh?

nice, i was wondering about that
my system already takes forever to POST, and that didn't help much.
BTW thugs, i put some of my AS5 on my 6800GT, heres a link: Linkage
I'll diffenately get the eVGA copper cooler eventaully, possibly the NV5. The Ultra cooler just seems like too much of a hassle to get, and I don't want to have to deal with the people in the FS/FT forum.
Nick

 

[THUGSROOK]

...and whats wrong with the ppl in the FS/FT forum?

(there are many great traders in there, give it a shot and check their heatware)

> bump!

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
...and whats wrong with the ppl in the FS/FT forum?

(there are many great traders in there, give it a shot and check their heatware)

> bump!

yeah but theres also a post just on the bad ones....i'd rather not take my chances with something so informal.