High School GPAs getting out of control

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tfinch2

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
My High School gave you a 0.2 bonus to your GPA for every AP class you took. In that way you werent punished for taking extra non AP classes. I ended up with a 5.4 senior year, and a 4.74 overall.

Which is bullshit. In college, an A is an A, whether you earned it in Advanced Topics in Astrophysics or Introduction to Basketweaving. Sure one class is orders of magnitudes harder, but they still count the same toward your GPA.
Don't most colleges weight grades based on how many credit hours the class is?

I'll admit that's true, but both of those classes would probably be 3 hours.
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: legoman666
Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

QFT

Hell yes. Our highschool graded AP same as non-AP. What mattered was your transcript, and when a college looked at it and saw AP classes they knew they were harder.

My high school graded based on a 5.0 scale. AP classes were worth more.
 

LongCoolMother

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Sep 4, 2001
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I had a '4.5' GPA in HS. I thought it was pure BS. I'm sitting at something like ~3.7-3.8 in college right now.
 

oogabooga

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I can understand if they grade some classes at 5.0 for AP (this is how my high school was done) but unless every class was an ap course and you got an A in it, I don't see how you could hit 5.0, much less whatever she got

I'm glad I'm done with school, no more of this bs
 
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Originally posted by: oogabooga
I can understand if they grade some classes at 5.0 for AP (this is how my high school was done) but unless every class was an ap course and you got an A in it, I don't see how you could hit 5.0, much less whatever she got

I'm glad I'm done with school, no more of this bs

Works like this

In some schools, the GPA scale is out of 5.0, instead of 4.0. For AP classes, the score is weighted to 6.0, so if you get a A in an AP class, a 6.0 gets factored in. An A+ in a AP is a 6.3. However its impossible to get a 6.3 because of mandatory classes that have a max GPA score of 5.3.

5.9 is the equivalent of an A+ in basically every single AP and regular class
 

hdeck

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Sep 26, 2002
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my high school's GPA was on a 6 pt scale with you being able to 7 for an A in an honors level course. this was 6 years ago.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: OdiN
heh....I had a 4.22 my Freshman year. Ended up with like 4.11 after 4 years.

Seems a bit more reasonable than 5.89....that's just nuts.

This is why GPA needs to be given like 4.22/6.00.

That would be a 70%

The honors classes are a mess. It used to be an 'honors' course got you something like a 4.25 and AP classes could yield a 5.00.

Not you can basically be failing and pull off a 4.0.

All part of parents crying foul if their kid doesn't make captain, doesn't make prom queen, doesn't get to be a cheerleader, etc.

I see the next generation trying to sue their employer because they couldn't be promoted to President too.
 

Extelleron

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Originally posted by: legoman666
My brother and I went to a very prestigious (expensive) Jesuit high school. The highest grade we could get was a 100%. They didn't give us a grade on a 4pt scale. AP classes were worth the same as non AP. My sister goes to a private school also and she earns 5.0s for AP classes. My brother and I both think this is complete bullshit. She didn't score above 100, why should her GPA imply that she did?

Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

Because she took a much harder class?

An A in AP US History is not the same thing as an A in U.S. History. They should not be made equal in GPA value when one class is significantly harder than the other.

Weighted GPA is a PITA in HS though, so I can see what you are saying. Pretty much if you want high rank you have to give up what you actually want to do and take Honors/AP classes.
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
An A in AP US History is not the same thing as an A in U.S. History. They should not be made equal in GPA value when one class is significantly harder than the other.

Look at the example I gave above.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
My High School gave you a 0.2 bonus to your GPA for every AP class you took. In that way you werent punished for taking extra non AP classes. I ended up with a 5.4 senior year, and a 4.74 overall.

Which is bullshit. In college, an A is an A, whether you earned it in Advanced Topics in Astrophysics or Introduction to Basketweaving. Sure one class is orders of magnitudes harder, but they still count the same toward your GPA.

Not actually....colleges will break out your GPA into core and the rest. Some will even break it out between 2000 and below and 3000 level and above and then even 5000+ gpa.

The idea is many will blow off the lower level coursework yet kick ass where it counts.

I never got hung up on GPA, I didn't have a spectacular one, but tested excellently. Had some pretty nice interviews and offer letters. Was accepted to Pharmacy college prior to even getting my AA.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: OdiN
heh....I had a 4.22 my Freshman year. Ended up with like 4.11 after 4 years.

Seems a bit more reasonable than 5.89....that's just nuts.

This is why GPA needs to be given like 4.22/6.00.

That would be a 70%

The honors classes are a mess. It used to be an 'honors' course got you something like a 4.25 and AP classes could yield a 5.00.

Not you can basically be failing and pull off a 4.0.

All part of parents crying foul if their kid doesn't make captain, doesn't make prom queen, doesn't get to be a cheerleader, etc.

I see the next generation trying to sue their employer because they couldn't be promoted to President too.


yeap i agree.


hehe i didnt make the basketball team my freshmen year (big shock. i was 5'2). my dad said something like "yeah i told you it would be a waste of time." then i went and got ont he wrestling team.


i had a 3.5 gpa. i don't remember anyone having above a 4.0.
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Extelleron
An A in AP US History is not the same thing as an A in U.S. History. They should not be made equal in GPA value when one class is significantly harder than the other.

Look at the example I gave above.

High School grading and College are different obviously.
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: legoman666
My brother and I went to a very prestigious (expensive) Jesuit high school. The highest grade we could get was a 100%. They didn't give us a grade on a 4pt scale. AP classes were worth the same as non AP. My sister goes to a private school also and she earns 5.0s for AP classes. My brother and I both think this is complete bullshit. She didn't score above 100, why should her GPA imply that she did?

Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

Because she took a much harder class?

An A in AP US History is not the same thing as an A in U.S. History. They should not be made equal in GPA value when one class is significantly harder than the other.

Weighted GPA is a PITA in HS though, so I can see what you are saying. Pretty much if you want high rank you have to give up what you actually want to do and take Honors/AP classes.

No. She's taking 5-6 AP classes. I took the same and so did my brother. AP Comp Sci A, AP Comp Sci AB, BC Precalc, BC calc, linear algebra, multivariable calc, AP drawing, AP US Hist, AP physics, AP chem. Etc.

Nothing that she did was harder, but yet she has a 4.7 or something GPA. I finished with a 88% average.
 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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What a load of baloney. Where I went to school, you were graded on a 100 pt scale in each class, and that's it.
 

BrownTown

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
I do not even remember mine. All i remember was in College. I ********barely******** missed 3.0.

heh, my GPA after 7 semesters was 2.996, talk about bull crap when I was applying to jobs and alot auto reject you if less than 3.0, ended up with a 3.022 though, so now I make the cut .
 

Xylitol

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That's absolute bull
All GPAs should be made this way:
4 = A
3 = B
2 = C
1 = D
0 = F

(non-weighted)

Weighted should be like between .500 - 1.00 added to a class if it's honors / ap
 

BrownTown

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Dec 1, 2005
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And yeah, IMO nobody should ever be able to get a 4.0 in anything period. ITs stupid to be able to get better then "perfect". Honors and AP are nice, but you shouldn't get a grade boost for them, the fact that they look good on the transcript should be what counts. I know alot of colleges just strip off all the boosts anyways though, so they will just adjust her GPA down to a 3.8 or whatever it really is.
 

Juno

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lol this is insane. i almost made it to national honor society. when i came to college, my gpa plummeted.
 
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