High School GPAs getting out of control

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BrokenVisage

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: legoman666
Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

QFT

lol, my university is on a 5.0 scale

What university?

some online university???

MIT

I'm surprised they have yet to correct this mistake then. Anything over a 4.0 scale is just dumb.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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i think having an above 4 GPA is acceptable so long as the scale is specified. however, numerical grades are superior to letters, but it's easier to curve on a letter grade if you're lazy or have an insanely hard class which everyone "fails" (ie, the metals class i took last term)
 

LongCoolMother

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Sep 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: legoman666
Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

QFT

lol, my university is on a 5.0 scale

What university?

some online university???

MIT

I'm surprised they have yet to correct this mistake then. Anything over a 4.0 scale is just dumb.

I don't understand why MIT uses a 5.0 scale while almost every other uni grades on a 4.0 scale. What's the point??
 

Extelleron

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Dec 26, 2005
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Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: legoman666
My brother and I went to a very prestigious (expensive) Jesuit high school. The highest grade we could get was a 100%. They didn't give us a grade on a 4pt scale. AP classes were worth the same as non AP. My sister goes to a private school also and she earns 5.0s for AP classes. My brother and I both think this is complete bullshit. She didn't score above 100, why should her GPA imply that she did?

Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

Because she took a much harder class?

An A in AP US History is not the same thing as an A in U.S. History. They should not be made equal in GPA value when one class is significantly harder than the other.

Weighted GPA is a PITA in HS though, so I can see what you are saying. Pretty much if you want high rank you have to give up what you actually want to do and take Honors/AP classes.

No. She's taking 5-6 AP classes. I took the same and so did my brother. AP Comp Sci A, AP Comp Sci AB, BC Precalc, BC calc, linear algebra, multivariable calc, AP drawing, AP US Hist, AP physics, AP chem. Etc.

Nothing that she did was harder, but yet she has a 4.7 or something GPA. I finished with a 88% average.

I'm not comparing her to you, I am comparing her to other students at her school.

It would be nice if everyone had an identical system so that weighted GPA could be compared between schools.

The way it has been for me:

A in Level I = 4.0
A in Level II = 4.5
A in Level III = 5.0

Level I is most classes, Level II is mostly "Honors" classes, Level III is AP.

 

CasioTech

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Oct 1, 2000
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4.0 regular classes
5.0 advanced/gifted
6.0 AP

my valedick got near a 5.8 as well. He's some pompous lawyer who finished harvard last I heard.

I graduated in 2002 with a 4.2 weighted. I don't know how things have changed since with the grading system..
 

legoman666

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Dec 18, 2003
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Originally posted by: CasioTech
are you idiots?

4.0 regular classes
5.0 advanced/gifted
6.0 AP

my valedick got near a 5.8 as well. He's some pompous lawyer who finished harvard last I heard.

at my highschool it went like this:

4.0 regular classes
4.0 advanced/gifted
4.0 AP

 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: CasioTech

4.0 regular classes
5.0 advanced/gifted
6.0 AP

my valedick got near a 5.8 as well. He's some pompous lawyer who finished harvard last I heard.

I graduated in 2002 with a 4.2 weighted. I don't know how things have changed since with the grading system..

Proof that your average US HS is total garbage.
 

Jawo

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Jun 15, 2005
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Bullshit....probably use a 5.0 scale or weighted AP scale. Colleges always look at the scale, and the school district. I had like an 3.89 in HS...with AP classes. Helicopter parents want to ensure that their precious Einstein doesn't get less than a 4.0 in all their classes...Fairfax county eliminated valedictorian many years ago because of this!
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Another example of how screwed up the system is....

There is a city with high crime and low scores in my home state. The local high schools adjusted their GPA for a 5.0 system. Our State University system Admissions is based on the 4.0 system.....those gun-slinging gang-bangers with what would be less than a 2.0 average have been bumped up a point and are being admitted into the schools. I have seen violent crime rise from the student populations as a result of it. (5 gun-related instances and 2 rape instances and all 7 suspects are from the same city/high school system)

I think if you get any grade higher than a 4.0, the curriculum better be approved and enforced by national standards that individual school systems don't have to pay extra for. That would help level the playing field for the smart ones.

For the kids that don't care about their education, they should be forced to take placement exams after screwing around in high school. If their GPA is below a certain level, they have to PAY to go a post-high school junior college to bring up their GPA. This will help weed out the troublemakers.
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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It's retarded. Obviously special ed should be on a 4.0 scale, remedial classes on a 5.0, regular on 6.0, honors on 7.0, advanced on 8.0 and AP on 9.0.


Oh and OP, just lie to your children , of course you had a 43.5 GPA. OR just make it on a different scale, tell them you didn't use GPA, but you scored 6 quorums and a flabnert.
 

Bibble

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Feb 20, 2006
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My high school graded everyone on a 4.0 scale because they did not want to bullshit us. This made perfect sense as my college applications asked for unweighted GPA (i.e. out of 4). There is no sense is telling someone they have a 4.6 when the people who matter (college admissions) won't see it that way.

Meanwhile my younger brother has over a 4.0 GPA out of 5 despite the fact he gets Cs in math. It only fools the children in to thinking they are all excellent, which cannot be the case.
 

RaistlinZ

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Sadly though, many of these H.S. eggheads bring their 4.9 GPA's to college and get a 2.5 their first semester and their whole world falls apart. A lot of them have no idea how much more difficult real college courses can be compared to high school ones, which are a joke for the most part.

If he/she can hold a 3.8 or above once they get to college, then I'll be impressed.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: legoman666
Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

QFT

lol, my university is on a 5.0 scale

What university?

some online university???

MIT

I'm surprised they have yet to correct this mistake then. Anything over a 4.0 scale is just dumb.

I don't understand why MIT uses a 5.0 scale while almost every other uni grades on a 4.0 scale. What's the point??

UMich's graduate school uses a 9-point grading scale. Their formula for converting it to a 4.0 scale was pretty convoluted.
 

Argo

Lifer
Apr 8, 2000
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Heh - my high school gave us grades like: 5, 5-, 4+, 4, 4-, 3+, etc for each class. With 3 being the passing grade and 5 being the max. At the end - there was no averaging or anything like that - you simple got a diplomma that listed the grade you got in every subject.

 

nobody554

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Jan 21, 2006
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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
The highest GPA in my school is also 5.9 out of a 6.0 scale. About 3 people have it. I think its actually impossible to go over that, because you HAVE to take non AP courses, which brings down your GPA.

We had a 5 point scale at my high school and that was purely because we were an AP magnet school.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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I got 4.35 also in 3 years. Plus I had so many AP credits, I was able to skip a year in college too. The downside, I graduated college several months before I could legally drink Of course on the upside, between saved tuition and 2 years head start on career, I was a couple hundred K ahead.

 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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High school GPAs are meaningless in the real world...so are college GPAs once you have a little experience too.
 

dr150

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Sep 18, 2003
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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: legoman666
Anything above a 4.0 is bullshit.

QFT

lol, my university is on a 5.0 scale

What university?

some online university???

MIT

I'm surprised they have yet to correct this mistake then. Anything over a 4.0 scale is just dumb.

I don't understand why MIT uses a 5.0 scale while almost every other uni grades on a 4.0 scale. What's the point??


EVERYONE knows that the Monroe Institute use grade inflation.
 

frostedflakes

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Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: senseamp
I got 4.35 also in 3 years. Plus I had so many AP credits, I was able to skip a year in college too. The downside, I graduated college several months before I could legally drink Of course on the upside, between saved tuition and 2 years head start on career, I was a couple hundred K ahead.
Yeah, I'm really kicking myself for not taking more AP classes during HS, it's a much cheaper way to knock out some college credits.

I also did not take my first semester of college serious at all and ended up getting academic dismissal, couldn't appeal for readmission for two semesters. Ugh, so much wasted time and money. If I was smart I probably could have been done by the time I was 20 or 21.
 

Inferno0032

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Saying that anything above 4.0 is bullshit, is simply not totally correct. How is it fair that little Timmy takes 5 AP classes as a senior, and gets his ass worked off, gets B's in all his classes, and ends up with a 3.0, while Joe dumbfuck takes the "senior slide" and takes 4 PE classes and an "elective," gets all A's, and has a 4.0? It's not fair, simple as that.

Anyway, for nearly all of my college apps, they get weighted, and unweighted GPAs submitted, as well as looking at your actual courses. It's not like the GPA itself means all that much, but by having a 4.0+ it shows you are taking an honors/AP courseload somewhat at least.

I'm finishing with something like a 4.5 this year, took a full courseload of AP classes, and you can't tell me it's fair that I shouldn't be rewarded for 3+ hours of daily homework.... to say so would be stupid IMHO.

My school is on a 4 point scale as such:
Regular- 4
Honors- 5
AP/CLEP- 5

I think the honors would be more accurate maybe out of a 4.5, as they aren't nearly where AP classes are, and shouldn't really be on equal footing.
 
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