High School GPAs getting out of control

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ChaoZ

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Originally posted by: senseamp
I got 4.35 also in 3 years. Plus I had so many AP credits, I was able to skip a year in college too. The downside, I graduated college several months before I could legally drink Of course on the upside, between saved tuition and 2 years head start on career, I was a couple hundred K ahead.

A couple hundred k? What school did you go to?
 

Mo0o

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I dont see what the big deal is if colleges know what system the high school is on. A wider range of possible scores gives a more accurate representation of a student's performance and strength of schedule. Colleges that dont want to accent the syste will simply convert back down to a 4.0 scale.
 

gentobu

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Man, I had like a 4.2 GPA in High School and I practically slept through class. It was so easy. This one time I was taking an AP Physics exam and got bored so I left and got a BJ from my hot cheerleader girlfriend. I got back with 5 minutes to spare and aced it. True story.
 

BrownTown

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wow, I didn't realize so many high schools inflated grades so much for AP classes, we didn't get crap.
 

crystal

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Wow, things really change. If I remember correctly, when I was in HS in the late 80s - AP classes GPA was the same as regular classes GPA. You can take AP tests, if you do well enough then you can waive/count as credit toward your college/university credits.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: Inferno0032
Saying that anything above 4.0 is bullshit, is simply not totally correct. How is it fair that little Timmy takes 5 AP classes as a senior, and gets his ass worked off, gets B's in all his classes, and ends up with a 3.0, while Joe dumbfuck takes the "senior slide" and takes 4 PE classes and an "elective," gets all A's, and has a 4.0? It's not fair, simple as that.

It's the exact same thing in college. All courses are graded on the same scale, even though some are clearly more difficult than others. Hopefully this won't be as big of a problem if the college only ranks you against people in your program, and you include transcripts with job/grad school applications, so they can see what courses you actually took.

When I was applying to colleges, my #1 choice school said the first thing they looked at was rigor of high school curriculum - i.e. did you always take the most difficult version of a class if your school offered you a choice (i.e. regular history vs. AP history). This process helped weed out those who earned 4.0 GPAs by taking the easiest classes available.

 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
My High School gave you a 0.2 bonus to your GPA for every AP class you took. In that way you werent punished for taking extra non AP classes. I ended up with a 5.4 senior year, and a 4.74 overall.

Which is bullshit. In college, an A is an A, whether you earned it in Advanced Topics in Astrophysics or Introduction to Basketweaving. Sure one class is orders of magnitudes harder, but they still count the same toward your GPA.

Don't most colleges weight grades based on how many credit hours the class is?

ive never heard of a school doing this

my HS did not weigh classes, neither dod my college

my college also didnt do credit hours 1 class= 1 credit regaurdless of what class
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Inferno0032
Saying that anything above 4.0 is bullshit, is simply not totally correct. How is it fair that little Timmy takes 5 AP classes as a senior, and gets his ass worked off, gets B's in all his classes, and ends up with a 3.0, while Joe dumbfuck takes the "senior slide" and takes 4 PE classes and an "elective," gets all A's, and has a 4.0? It's not fair, simple as that.

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actually it is not bullshit, people wo read college apps and such arnt stupid, GPA just like SAT scores is close to meaningless, which is why anything based off the number is dumb

 

Cooler

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Any college worth there grain of salt in admission request an unweighted GPA from the school. I have had a few friends who worked in admission offices who have denied GPA of ~4.0s because they were basically straight B students that took a lot of AP classes. They really should stop this GPA inflation it helps no one in the end only makes schools harder to compare. Also AP Classes are necessary harder then most classes it completely depends on who is teaching it.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Cooler
Also AP Classes are necessary harder then most classes it completely depends on who is teaching it.

this is 100% true
all but 2 of my AP classes were really easy
 

AmpedSilence

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AT my high school AP classes got multiplied by a 1.1. So the better you did, the more of a benefit you got.

Not that it matters much. AP classes are kinda BS anyway.
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Cooler
Also AP Classes are necessary harder then most classes it completely depends on who is teaching it.

this is 100% true
all but 2 of my AP classes were really easy

My AP Physics Class was joke we were just given a book and an A and all got 1 or 2s on the AP exam.
 

OutHouse

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so what i am hearing in here is that high schools all across the country have different GPA scales. so in essence the GPA scale has been trashed because not all schools go above at 4.0 even for taking AP classes. so for the kids in those schools who get a 4.0 even for taking AP classes get looked down upon because they didnt have a 5.8 GPA when they graduated.

Dont Universities/colleges look at what classes a student took anymore or do they just go by the GPA?

Humm, Sally here has a 5.1 gpa and took a lot of AP classes

but

Johnny here has a 4.0 but took one less AP class so he gets the rejection letter.

 

Nitemare

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4.0 was the highest when I was in school.

I guess dumbing down the SAT wasn't enough and they had to artificially inflate the GPA's as well.

What do you expect though, they have banned kickball(hurts fat kid's feelings), reprimanded teachers because they failed cheaters and most other things
 

halik

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
College application gpa =/= school gpa

Ding ding ding. When you apply to any university they take your transcript and recalculate your GPA.

Yupp, at Michigan they drop bulshit classes as well (auto/pe/home ed etc.)
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: Inferno0032
Saying that anything above 4.0 is bullshit, is simply not totally correct. How is it fair that little Timmy takes 5 AP classes as a senior, and gets his ass worked off, gets B's in all his classes, and ends up with a 3.0, while Joe dumbfuck takes the "senior slide" and takes 4 PE classes and an "elective," gets all A's, and has a 4.0? It's not fair, simple as that.

It's the exact same thing in college. All courses are graded on the same scale, even though some are clearly more difficult than others. Hopefully this won't be as big of a problem if the college only ranks you against people in your program, and you include transcripts with job/grad school applications, so they can see what courses you actually took.

When I was applying to colleges, my #1 choice school said the first thing they looked at was rigor of high school curriculum - i.e. did you always take the most difficult version of a class if your school offered you a choice (i.e. regular history vs. AP history). This process helped weed out those who earned 4.0 GPAs by taking the easiest classes available.

hummm... maybe grading has gotten easier since i was in HS, i graduated in 1987 and i dont really remember AP classes. we had College prep classes but they were not part of how many hours you needed to graduate HS. I know the kids who graduated with me who got 4.0 GPA were smart and earned a 4.0 GPA. out of my class of around 400 i think only 20 or so left HS with a 4.0.

 

alkemyst

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DAMN AP in my day meant you drove to the local college and took a freshman class for college credit.

Everything has been dumbed down today.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
DAMN AP in my day meant you drove to the local college and took a freshman class for college credit.

Everything has been dumbed down today.

yes, when i was a senior i had friends who were taking freshman classes at the community college.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
DAMN AP in my day meant you drove to the local college and took a freshman class for college credit.

Everything has been dumbed down today.

yeap thats how it was when i was in school.
 

ElFenix

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AP classes should be worth 2 grade points more than regular because the same effort in an regular class that nets an A will get you a C in an AP class.
 
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