High SSD prices April 2011

[semo]

Is anyone else wondering why SSD prices are so high right now (both 25nm and 3xnm)?

Here in the UK prices are as high as about 10 months ago! Is it high demand? Japan disaster? Can we expect prices to start falling again this year?

 

[Broheim]

Is anyone else wondering why SSD prices are so high right now (both 25nm and 3xnm)?

Here in the UK prices are as high as about 10 months ago! Is it high demand? Japan disaster? Can we expect prices to start falling again this year?

the reason why the prices are still somewhat at the same level is rather complex so i wont go into that, but expect prices to keep dropping just not as much as we have seen in the past...

 

[Bauss]

Long story short: Demand is still outpacing supply at this point. People are buying SSDs in record numbers, even as 25nm flash supply hasn't fully ramped up yet. Add in a certain nuclear situation in a certain country that is responsible for massive amounts of electronic components, and you have a recipe for high prices at least until the fall.

Either bite the bullet, or be patient. It shall pass.

 

[airdata]

Strange. I listed my 120gb ssd for sale @ $50-60 less than what I payed for it and all I get is people offering me $150 for the drive I payed $235 for a couple months ago.

 

[semo]

Strange. I listed my 120gb ssd for sale @ $50-60 less than what I payed for it and all I get is people offering me $150 for the drive I payed $235 for a couple months ago.

What make is it? If it is OCZ, then there's a good reason for it (read up on their 25nm transition)
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2143367

Your region might not be experiencing the same price hikes as here in the UK. I don't know, hence this thread.

 

[Weenoman]

The best drugs are always the most expensive ones.

 

[Zap]

Which SSDs are you looking at? Besides special sales, seems to me that prices are stagnant right now with the older models, while the newer ones are what cost more.

 

[bulanula]

Indeed the prices are VERY high compared to US prices.
Looking for a decent SSD of at least 8GB capacity and Sandforce controller ( LINUX baby > Winblow$ 7 ) under 100 quid = mission impossible.

 

[amdhunter]

Strange. I listed my 120gb ssd for sale @ $50-60 less than what I payed for it and all I get is people offering me $150 for the drive I payed $235 for a couple months ago.

I'll give you $151.

What drive are you selling? I've been looking for a bigger SSD for my MacBook.

 

[groberts101]

I know I'm gonna get some flack for this.. BUT.. Sandforce V2 drives are actually half the price from when they were introduced just 1 year ago.

$400 then.. and $200 now for a 120GB model.

 

[HumblePie]

I bought my Vertex 1 series 120GB drive for $300 when it was just about first released. Now it's slow compared to newer SSD's and if you can find one for sale it is under $150 I bet.

Right now I'm pissed at the newrippoffegg for the Vertex 3 prices. I want to get a Verte 3 240GB drive. The MSRP is supposed to be $499 but it is going for $549 on newegg. I'm not going to pay 10% over MSRP for the drive.

It is $528 on amazon as well. Still not going to pay a penny over MSRP for the drive though.

 

[OlafSicky]

I bought my Vertex 1 series 120GB drive for $300 when it was just about first released. Now it's slow compared to newer SSD's and if you can find one for sale it is under $150 I bet.

Right now I'm pissed at the newrippoffegg for the Vertex 3 prices. I want to get a Verte 3 240GB drive. The MSRP is supposed to be $499 but it is going for $549 on newegg. I'm not going to pay 10% over MSRP for the drive.

It is $528 on amazon as well. Still not going to pay a penny over MSRP for the drive though.

Do it .. you know you want to don't be cheap extra 10% is nothing you will be doing it for us... all of us... who want one but don't want to be beta testers for OCZ.

 

[ensign_lee]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-042-_-Product

$275 for 450 MB/s read speeds? I think that's pretty cheap to me!

 

[Makaveli]

Prices in canada have dropped for SSD's when I look compared to when I bought one in 2009.

You are just getting screwed because you are in the UK that is the last place I would by any computer electronics with the crazy taxes you guys get.

 

[Dadofamunky]

The best drugs are always the most expensive ones.

LOL :twisted:

 

[bulanula]

who want one but don't want to be beta testers for OCZ.

True words you speak, LOL !

In other news : OCZ is recruiting chimps that can speak English for SSD testing and troubleshooting.

Sandforce is so unreliable because they do almost no or little inhouse SSD testing as they cannot afford it being such a small company yet they give OCZ and Corsair that burden of testing and feedback and firmware development which obviously results in them shipping buggy controllers like the SF1000 series.

 

[groberts101]

All I can tell you for sure is that this chimp and all the other apes I hang out with have more knowledge about these SF controllers and SSD in general then many here combined.

Furthermore, many of the dingleberry "I got burned" flamers posting around here don't even have enough GENERAL knowledge about SSD to ever know how to make informed decisions or recommendations one way or the other.

Luckily most of the RMA dust has settled across ALL vendors using the older controllers due to recent firmware fixes that the newer controllers will have a much better go of it right from the start.

And yes, I too blame Sandforce and all the others(including OCZ) for being so quick to ride on those coattails for the sake of quarterly profits. If there's an award for that though.. it would have to go to Intel as they have many products for which we've all been testers for. I won't even get into Microsoft. LOL

What will be even funnier is if Intel pairs up with Sandforce and uses that controller in its top-tier models. That would do a lot to improve the product and speak volumes to all those that doubt its capabilities.

 

[bulanula]

All I can tell you for sure is that this chimp and all the other apes I hang out with have more knowledge about these SF controllers and SSD in general then many here combined.

Well seems like you interpret my joke in a way it's not meant to be. I never meant to insult anybody on the OCZ forum, especially the hard working staff there ( they should be given a raise actually ! ) because they are doing everything to help.

Furthermore, many of the dingleberry "I got burned" flamers posting around here don't even have enough GENERAL knowledge about SSD to ever know how to make informed decisions or recommendations one way or the other.

Amen to that. There seems to be so many idiots working with SSDs it's like the monkeys and typewriters experiment ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem ). Seen some dumbos trying to format SSD with dod 8 passes and others wondering why the capacity is smaller than advertised and confusing bits with bytes LOL no wonder they all start to fail with such dumb users.

Luckily most of the RMA dust has settled across ALL vendors using the older controllers due to recent firmware fixes that the newer controllers will have a much better go of it right from the start.

Well, the dust may have settled but SF are not going to get my business any time soon in the future just because of their bad reputation with failing SSDs. Even the Vertex 3 is having some issues with freezing and stuff. Wonder why OCZ was again the first ( followed by another bunch of liars, OWC ) to get out a SF2000 SSD while others like Corsair have been waiting . Hint : it's not because OCZ are in a special relationship with SF or because they are competitive etc. It is because they are yet again using the dumb early adopters as guinea pigs and some got shafted when they released the MAX IOPS version LOL this whole SSD affair is a total joke.

Real good entertainment here, folks ! OCZ forums is my daily stop for laughter and good hearted fun. Not trying to bad mouth them but them and Sandforce are just trying to shaft consumers BIG TIME.

And yes, I too blame Sandforce and all the others(including OCZ) for being so quick to ride on those coattails for the sake of quarterly profits. If there's an award for that though.. it would have to go to Intel as they have many products for which we've all been testers for.

Exactly, why would they not give the damn G1 Intel x25-E TRIM ? Greedy companies.

What will be even funnier is if Intel pairs up with Sandforce and uses that controller in its top-tier models. That would do a lot to improve the product and speak volumes to all those that doubt its capabilities.

Which is highly unlikely to happen if you have read the leaked roadmap even though I would love an Intel+SF SLC model !

 

[groberts101]

First off I just have to say.. way to be man! Not many can take it as well as they dish it out.

Most of the time I'm just screwin' with people and pushing buttons just to be doing so to those that have big ones right in the middle of their foreheads. Your's apparently has a plastic cover on it to prevent unauthorized access(kinda' like the tamper resistant sticker on an OCZ SSD, LOL) and is nice to see for a change around here.

And I have read the roadmap and there are more than a few rumors starting to float around the net about the striking similarities to the capacity points for which Sandforce is known. This is the only one I've jumped in on so far as the others are little blogs and comments.

http://thessdreview.com/Forums/intel/702.htm

http://thessdreview.com/latest-buzz/is-intel%E2%80%99s-522-series-%E2%80%98sandforce-driven%E2%80%99-ssd-next-to-be-released/

 

[bulanula]

Well whatever Intel does I just hope they straighten the dents in Sandforce as it really is a pity that the best / fastest controller is also one of the most unreliable.

Intel brand reliability + Sandforce controller speed + SLC Intel NAND = dreamland for me LOL.

BUT I think it will stay that way because Intel / Micron are already in bed with Marvell so Sandforce seems unlikely even if the capacities 120 240 480 seem Sandforce-ish !

 

[Old Hippie]

Amen to that. There seems to be so many idiots working with SSDs it's like the monkeys and typewriters experiment ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem ). Seen some dumbos trying to format SSD with dod 8 passes and others wondering why the capacity is smaller than advertised and confusing bits with bytes LOL no wonder they all start to fail with such dumb users.

It's always gonna be like that with new technology and novice users.

OCZ's drives can be bought at bargain prices which brings new/inexperienced users to the table along with all the situations that come with them.

I still see the same type of confusion with eSATA but nowhere near what it was when eSATA was first introduced.

To me the only difference is between people that actually read first and then ask questions or the idiots that don't bother even though their question was just answered in the post right before them.

 

[bulanula]

I still see the same type of confusion with eSATA but nowhere near what it was when eSATA was first introduced.

LOL what is confusing about eSATA ???

 

[corkyg]

LOL what is confusing about eSATA ???

Nothing for most users, but some did not tumble on to distinct connectors.

 

[Old Hippie]

Nothing for most users, but some did not tumble on to distinct connectors.

Not only that but many don't seem to realize that some eSATA ports are on a different controller.

Many times, early eSATA was nothing more than a cable plugged into a SATA port that ran to a eSATA plug in a slot cover.

AAR, novice users + bargain SSDs = many goofy problems.

 

[bulanula]

AAR, novice users + bargain SSDs = many goofy problems.

Indeed SF unreliability is really a pity and may be due to users using sleep and hibernation when clearly told not to do so!