weepul
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im still going to wait for dvd burners to be standardized a bit more. fast media isnt exactly cheap yet.
//krunk (^_^x)
//krunk (^_^x)
Originally posted by: jasonroehm
Price is a big thing, but the other thing keeping me from getting a DVD burner is the fact that there are no dual-layer discs, so the only ones you can get are the 4.7GB ones. For most movies that come on the dual-layer discs (9GB), this means you have to split the movie or cut stuff out, which doesn't do it for me. When I can get a reasonably priced DVD burner that I can just make blind copies of DVDs with, that's when I'll purchase one.
This is a stupid argument as beta didn't suddenly disappear. I know people who were playing and still recording beta tapes a full fifteen years after the format supposedly lost. But this is a stupid argument for one further reason. People who chose to record in the beta format would need a beta VCR to play the tapes. This might be hard to come by now. This is nothing like DVD-R and DVD+R disks. Both these formats are totally compatible with the wide base of existing DVD players and future DVD players. None of the disks you record today in either format will be any less compatible 20 years from now and I venture to guess you won't have trouble buying players for the disks. Compatibility of your burned disks is a non-issue because if they work now, they will work in the future, both formats. This is nothing like orphaned totally propreitary formats you make in your argument.then came VHS and Betamax video recording and everyone knows what happened to Betamax! When one format wins the other disappears
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Eventually, one format might win out. Currently, it looks like DVD+R, which has the most large support. But who knows what the future may hold? Someone may invent a media that is compatible with both DVD+R and DVD-R drives.
Originally posted by: rectifire
For anyone who's interested:
Micro$oft has officially put it's support behind the DVD+R/+RW camp. It's working on developing a standard codenamed "Mount Rainier" where a DVD will be instantly writeable (the way a floppy works) with little or no formatting time and no burning software required. This is supposed to be available in the next Windows OS.
I believe the final standard will be called DVD+MR/+MRW (the M standing for Mount Rainier). Mt. Rainier will also come in a CD-R/RW version, since this is what it was orginally invented for (but then was adapted for DVD use.) Personally, I won't be sad to see the floppy go. But then again, people have been predicting the floppy's demise for some time, and yet the floppy is still around. It's just gonna feel a little weird to flash a BIOS from a DVD.
I have no doubt that both DVD+ and - will be around for a long time.....but I'd be more inclined to bet on the +R/+RW camp winning out, since the momentum seems to be on their side. (Just my humble opinion.)
None of this DVD+ or - debate may matter a year or two from now anyways, since the Mt. Rainier standard also requires compatible hardware. The DVD drive you buy today will likely not be compatible with Mt. Rainier tomorrow.
Oh well, we're used to the hardware upgrade cycle by now, aren't we?
Does anyone know anything about the TDK multiformat DVD burner that Dell is listing on their site? It can be had for less than the Sony with the usual sales/coupons... I might jump on it if the right sale comes along this week.
Originally posted by: rectifire
orion7144:
I have no doubt that your Liteon CD burner may be one of the later models (>40 recording speed) that support Mt. Rainier in hardware/firmware.
However on the software side, I believe you are confusing the native Windows XP IMAPI drag and drop packet based CD writing service, with true software Mt. Rainier support. No Windows, Mac OSX, or Linux distro have support for Mount Rainier as of yet, and I don't beleive any firm dates have been set. Most likely they are waiting for the hardware to become more plentiful.
Just a few benefits of Mount Rainier:
2K block sizes instead of the common 64K block sizes used in many of today's packet writing software, which means more efficient use of CD-R/RW space.
So Far, CD-R/RW recordable media haven't been trustworthy enough for some of the more critical backup applications. Every one of us has had the occasional bad burn/coaster, which is unacceptable when backing up critical data. Most of the time our writing software will just burn blindly to the CD, even if certain parts of the CD are defective. This gives us a coaster and/or corrupted data in the worst case. Mt. Rainier fixes this by putting error detection and correction into the hardware of the drive, much in the same way that SCSI hard drives automatically self diagnose, mark off bad blocks and ban their use by the drive.
I could go on, but I'm already talking too much.