Hillary Clinton appears to suggest Russians are 'grooming' Tulsi Gabbard for third-party run

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JEDIYoda

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I think her thoughts on the issues are so diverse from the other candidates that it appears that she could be.....
 

pcgeek11

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So if you are not part of the "Hive Mind" and have your own thoughts on the issues you are suspect to being a Russian asset.

That makes no sense.
 
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JEDIYoda

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So if you are not part of the "Hive Mind" and have your own thoughts on the issues you are suspect to being a Russian asset.

That makes no sense.
hat makes no sense is to reinterpret what was said with a false narrative!
 

Amused

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Do you think she is owned by the Russians?

Hillary seems to think so.

No, she said she's being groomed. That's it. She did not say knowingly. And it makes sense. She's been wooed with a coordinated effort by the alt-right and Russian bots are promoting her.
At the right time, they'll approach her to run third party.
At no time does she need to know Russia or the alt-right is grooming her.

Just as a child is groomed by an abuser. She's being groomed by people looking to disrupt the election.

And she's an easy tool. Reactionary and defensive. Easily wooed by false praise and led by the nose. Her response is downright trumpian in it's narcissistic rage.
 

pcgeek11

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No, she said she's being groomed. That's it. She did not say knowingly. And it makes sense. She's been wooed with a coordinated effort by the alt-right and Russian bots are promoting her.
At the right time, they'll approach her to run third party.
At no time does she need to know Russia or the alt-right is grooming her.

Just as a child is groomed by an abuser. She's being groomed by people looking to disrupt the election.

And she's an easy tool. Reactionary and defensive. Easily wooed by false praise and led by the nose. Her response is downright trumpian in it's narcissistic rage.


Here is part of what she said quoted:


“That’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she’s also a Russian asset … yes, she’s a Russian asset. I mean, totally,”

Sounds like she is calling them both ( Jill Stein and Tusi Gabbard ) Russian Assets.
 
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Amused

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Here is part of what she said quoted:


“That’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she’s also a Russian asset … yes, she’s a Russian asset. I mean, totally,”

Sounds like she is calling them both ( Jill Stein and Tusi Gabbard ) Russian Assets.

You can unwittingly be an asset. Useful idiots are assets.

And with the alt-right and Russian bot support Gabbard has had, I would say she's clueless as to why they're wooing her. She's just eating up the attention and thinking she's got a shot... Which is kinda the point of all of it.
 
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dawp

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I can see the russians doing this without any input from Tulsi.

they can put all kinds of pressure on her to run 3rd party but if she says no they can't force her to run.

it's not like they need her approval to run a psy-ops against us, seeing what happened with the useful idiot in the white house
 
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soundforbjt

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She sure isn't helping her cause by going on Tucker's show on Fox last night. Speaking to Chris Wallace I could understand, but Tucker?
 

ch33zw1z

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She sure isn't helping her cause by going on Tucker's show on Fox last night. Speaking to Chris Wallace I could understand, but Tucker?

We know that many con's watch the show. If she manages to detract from the incumbent candidate, I guess that's still a win for Dem's.

Russia will try to divide and conquer, that's the goal. the plan evolves as we move along....with a few staple tactics to fall back on.
 

Juiblex

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I am voting for Tulsi. I don't care if some of her positions align with Russia's. She still seems way more sane than the rest of the crowd.
 
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soundforbjt

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I am voting for Tulsi. I don't care if some of her positions align with Russia's. She still seems way more sane than the rest of the crowd.
So, you'll vote for her if she runs as a third-party candidate, because that's the only way you'll be able to vote for her at this point unless there's a major change in her polling. If so, Trump & Putin thanks you.
 

cytg111

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I was about to ask when did Fox become a right out RT outlet... then Oooooh.
 

cytg111

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It is a bit of a.... wild accusation to publicly make though. How would you respond? And ignoring it probably won't be an option given the amount of media attention and who's mouth it came from.



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As R is a very real threat, shit like this from *her* is not helping, cause memes like that is going towards efforts to stick the truth in the ground. If you havent figured out by now that R is waging war on you ... then... sigh.
 

JTsyo

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She's also been very weak on impeachment, only just now coming out in favor of an inquiry. Still, I think Clinton should not have gone public with this allegation unless or until Gabbard announces a third party run, which she has previously disclaimed.

Since Gabbard has taken more pro-Russia positions than the others have in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if Russia is currently organizing an online campaign to promote her, but that doesn't mean that Gabbard is complicit. Clinton should be more cautious is making these kinds of accusations.
Preempting it might discourage a 3rd party run. What will a 3rd party run even accomplish other than stealing Democratic votes?
 

Jhhnn

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You can unwittingly be an asset. Useful idiots are assets.

And with the alt-right and Russian bot support Gabbard has had, I would say she's clueless as to why they're wooing her. She's just eating up the attention and thinking she's got a shot... Which is kinda the point of all of it.

Jill Stein was similarly clueless. Itt's a whole different kind of kompromat.
 
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woolfe9998

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Jill Stein responds, calling Clinton's accusation an "unhinged conspiracy theory" though her response is generally more measured and civil than was Gabbard's.


Clinton needs to clarify that she has no evidence of complicity of either of these women with Russia. It's just that the Russians consider them both to be useful idiots whose positions are convenient to their agenda.
 
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