Hillary Clinton appears to suggest Russians are 'grooming' Tulsi Gabbard for third-party run

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Amused

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It is a bit of a.... wild accusation to publicly make though. How would you respond? And ignoring it probably won't be an option given the amount of media attention and who's mouth it came from.

Now see, you can try vainly to paint demonstrable evidence as crazy because it doesn't fit your needs but let's examine...

Was Stein and is Gabbard being actively promoted by Russian social media bots? Yes. Demonstrably so.
Has Gabbard been promoted in a coordinated fashion by all the main cults of personality in the Alt-Right including David Duke? Yes.

As much as you need it to be, the question is no longer "has this happened?" It demonstrably has happened.

The question now is: "Why is it happening and who knows why?"

That's it.

And it stands to reason neither Stein nor Gabbard knew directly WHY or WHO was promoting them. They only noticed a rise in online popularity... and for Gabbard, a huge and WEIRD endorsement by the alt-right even though her entire platform outside of isolationism is at odds with them.

Those groomed for illegal and manipulative purposes are never instructed on why they're being groomed.
 
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Amused

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Why are you so eager to believe them?

It's kinda hard NOT to believe demonstrable proof of Russian social media bots actively supporting and promoting her AND the Alt-Right actively promoting her.

Facts and reality are hard to ignore.

Eager has nothing to do with it. Gabbard's promotion by the alt-right has always been a WTF move that people have questioned for months now.
 

Amused

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Lord you fellows are gullible. Three years after dropping the ball she's still pulling your strings.

Was Stein and is Gabbard being actively promoted by Russian social media bots? Yes. Demonstrably so.
Has Gabbard been promoted in a coordinated fashion by all the main cults of personality in the Alt-Right including David Duke? Yes.
 

cytg111

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Was Stein and is Gabbard being actively promoted by Russian social media bots? Yes. Demonstrably so.
Has Gabbard been promoted in a coordinated fashion by all the main cults of personality in the Alt-Right including David Duke? Yes.
Indeed it has R written all over it.
There was a time where a single bullet was the preffered option to change a political discourse, now it is the sum 10.000 small plays that all favor the house(R) by even 0.1 %... that shit adds up. Game of Incomplete Information and Putin rocks it like a motherfucker.
 
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Greenman

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Was Stein and is Gabbard being actively promoted by Russian social media bots? Yes. Demonstrably so.
Has Gabbard been promoted in a coordinated fashion by all the main cults of personality in the Alt-Right including David Duke? Yes.
So facebook posts and the village idiot are your information services. That's not going to end well.
 
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cytg111

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So facebook posts and the village idiot are your information services. That's not going to end well.
I concede that English is not my first language but I dont think that is what he said? Or are we promoting alternative story lines here .
 

ch33zw1z

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I concede that English is not my first language but I dont think that is what he said? Or are we promoting alternative story lines here .

No, it's not one bit. Trying to downplay Dukes place on the right, and the influence social media has over people's perspectives is all that is. Next up, he will like posts by people claiming Facebook should be regulated due to their influence in our lives.
 

Greenman

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No, it's not one bit. Trying to downplay Dukes place on the right, and the influence social media has over people's perspectives is all that is. Next up, he will like posts by people claiming Facebook should be regulated due to their influence in our lives.
Nope, not even close. Social media isn't on my radar. I don't use it, and I don't care about it.
Pretty much the same applies to Duke. He has nothing to say that interests me, his ideas aren't a part of my world.
 

Bitek

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So facebook posts and the village idiot are your information services. That's not going to end well.
Have you not listened to our intel chiefs when they've testified before Congress that the Russians interfered in 2016, and have not stopped their operations and are planning to disrupt 2020 as well?

It's you guys who naively have your heads on the sand about the foreign attacks on our democracy.

Trump refuses to admit it, and conservatives parrot him.

Perhaps if conservatives actually took the threat seriously, instead of trying to pretend it doesn't exist, there would be more certainty of Russia's current operation, and most importantly, it was being effectively combated.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Nope, not even close. Social media isn't on my radar. I don't use it, and I don't care about it.
Pretty much the same applies to Duke. He has nothing to say that interests me, his ideas aren't a part of my world.

It doesn't matter if you do, duh. Pretending like 100's of millions of people don't is just willful ignorance.

Same goes for Duke. Doesnt matter if you specifically think, it matters that we can see the influence and it's reaches into our society.
 
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cytg111

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Have you not listened to our intel chiefs when they've testified before Congress that the Russians interfered in 2016, and have not stopped their operations and are planning to disrupt 2020 as well?

It's you guys who naively have your heads on the sand about the foreign attacks on our democracy.

Trump refuses to admit it, and conservatives parrot him.

Perhaps if conservatives actually took the threat seriously, instead of trying to pretend it doesn't exist, there would be more certainty of Russia's current operation, and most importantly, it was being effectively combated.
Wait are you taking your news from you intelligence communities? That is not going to end well...
 

VRAMdemon

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She said she isn't, but If she changes her mind and runs third party, there's no stopping it. But Hillary just might have made her a lot more popular - certainly more visible.

The biggest leg of the stool is anti-Hillary sentiment. In 2016 it was a big factor in boosting Republican turnout and depressing Democrat turnout. She doesn't even have to run in 2020 - as long as she keeps running her mouth, she's a gift that keeps on giving for Gabbard and the Republicans.
 
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emperus

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Nope, not even close. Social media isn't on my radar. I don't use it, and I don't care about it.
Pretty much the same applies to Duke. He has nothing to say that interests me, his ideas aren't a part of my world.

Note: Because you don't care about something, doesn't make it's affect any less real.
 
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Amused

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So facebook posts and the village idiot are your information services. That's not going to end well.
Alt-right praise and promotion for Gabbard from:

Franklin Graham
Mike Cernovich
In April, the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, took credit for Ms. Gabbard’s qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates.
Tucker Carlson
Steve Bannon
Richard Spencer
Laura Ingraham
Paul-Joseph Watson
Jack Posobiec

I could go on, but the point is made. She's been a darling of Fox News as well.

Even though her ENTIRE platform is contrary to the alt-right, they are propping her up solely on her isolationist and dictator support views.



A game is very obviously being played. The Russian bot activity just proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. The alt right/Russians are looking for a stronger Jill Stein. They're looking for a left wing Ross Perot to disrupt the 2020 election. They rightly, or wrongly, believe Gabbard has a chance at being that spoiler and are trying to make her believe she has enough bipartisan support to run third party.

Curiously, the beginning of alt-right support for Gabbard coincides with this discovery way back in January that Russian bots were heavily promoting Gabbard. And that activity has only grown.

 
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ch33zw1z

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Alt-right praise and promotion for Gabbard from:

Franklin Graham
Mike Cernovich
In April, the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, took credit for Ms. Gabbard’s qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates.
Tucker Carlson
Steve Bannon
Richard Spencer
Laura Ingraham
Paul-Joseph Watson
Jack Posobiec

I could go on, but the point is made. She's been a darling of Fox News as well.

Even though her ENTIRE platform is contrary to the alt-right, they are propping her up solely on her isolationist and dictator support views.



A game is very obviously being played. The Russian bot activity just proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. The alt right/Russians are looking for a stronger Jill Stein. They're looking for a left wing Ross Perot to disrupt the 2020 election. They rightly, or wrongly, believe Gabbard has a chance at being that spoiler and are trying to make her believe she has enough bipartisan support to run third party.

Curiously, the beginning of alt-right support for Gabbard coincides with this discovery way back in January that Russian bots were heavily promoting Gabbard. And that activity has only grown.


It's just too bad Hilary had to say something, amirite? Now nobody cares cuz reasons.
 

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Just when the Democrats have Trump on the ropes, Hillary emerges from the woods of Chappaqua to assault...

Tulsi Gabbard?

Van Jones from CNN who has been an activist and has worked in the Democratic Party before has it right.


As Van Jones said in the video at about 1 min. 35 sec. in.
...there's a back story here and there's to sides to every story. Let's not forget Tulsi Gabbard was picked out by the Democratic Party Establishment and put at the top of the DNC. They thought she was going to be their golden girl. And she got in that position in the DNC and she looked around and saw Debbie Wasserman Schultz and other people, Clinton Allies, doing stuff they shouldn't have been doing in the Primary and Tulsi publicly quit and endorsed Bernie Sanders... And it has been payback Hell ever since."

Here is supporting information that backs Van Jones statement about Rep. Gabbard's rank in the DNC before she stepped down.
She also resigned as Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee. Just last month, she said she couldn’t take sides due to her position with the DNC.

Now aside from the unnecessary attack that might come from pointing out this inconvenient fact... You can dislike Tulsi Gabbard her politics aren't for everyone but if anyone wants to ignore the facts behind this as illustrated by a reputable person who has been a Democratic Activist before well we can't help them them can we...


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JEDIYoda

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Alt-right praise and promotion for Gabbard from:

Franklin Graham
Mike Cernovich
In April, the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, took credit for Ms. Gabbard’s qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates.
Tucker Carlson
Steve Bannon
Richard Spencer
Laura Ingraham
Paul-Joseph Watson
Jack Posobiec

I could go on, but the point is made. She's been a darling of Fox News as well.

Even though her ENTIRE platform is contrary to the alt-right, they are propping her up solely on her isolationist and dictator support views.



A game is very obviously being played. The Russian bot activity just proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. The alt right/Russians are looking for a stronger Jill Stein. They're looking for a left wing Ross Perot to disrupt the 2020 election. They rightly, or wrongly, believe Gabbard has a chance at being that spoiler and are trying to make her believe she has enough bipartisan support to run third party.

Curiously, the beginning of alt-right support for Gabbard coincides with this discovery way back in January that Russian bots were heavily promoting Gabbard. And that activity has only grown.

Amused is right on the money!! A few posts back you all were calling me all and accusing me of all sorts of things! Thank You amused for making them see the light!!
 
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