Hillary Clinton Poll

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Googer

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: DAGTA
That may be, but I bet I'm far from the only person that would not vote for Jeb simply because he's in the Bush family. Both Bush's have been horrible Presidents.

I know that a lot of people are going to disagree, but how many Presidents have we had lately that weren't horrible? IMO every president since Kennedy has sucked.

Reagan was great, wasn't he?
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
I'm pretty certain that Hillary wouldn't even get 50% of the Democratic vote, much less the whole country.

This would be an epic defeat for the Dems if she ran.

The most recent national polls put her at 20% of the Democratic Vote.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: Googer
Reagan was great, wasn't he?

Out of every President since Kennedy he was the best, but compared to the early Presidents he's a complete moron.
 

astrocase

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: DAGTA
If the choices were Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush... I MIGHT vote for Hillary. Otherwise, no.

Of course, our choices will again between between two losers and voters will be expected to either a) vote party line (the brainless option) or b) vote for 'the lesser of two evils' (the forced, this sucks, option)

Are you from Florida? Do you even know what you are talking about?


I live in Tampa and for the most part JEB has been very resposible and has done a decent JOB. JEB is very differant than his brother and father that I do not alway agree with. But his name has been tainted in the minds of some people because of what other family members have done.

Ted and the rest of the family are American Trash, but John Kennedy was a great Preisident. The same can be said about Jeb vs the rest of the Bush family.


Jeb Bush is a bible thumping idiot. He ended his presidential ambitions when his administration starting big brothering that brain dead woman. He should never have passed those laws or stuck his big head in the personal affairs of one family.
 

astrocase

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Hilary Clinton seems rather fake but sometimes she's rather convincing. I don't think she stands a chance but if it was between her and someone like Jeb Bush I would vote for her. It's all about the lesser of two evils. I wouldn't have voted for Bush otherwise.
 

imported_goku

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I woulda voted for her but now that I see she is so nosey about sh!t that doesn't matter, I say F it. She gets her nose in crap that not only isn't her business but shouldn't fscking matter anyways.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: aswedc
John McCain FTW

Thats crazy! It's obvious that you have not been paying attention to the news lately. McCain promises but never delivers. He says he is republican but take side on issues with democrats.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Googer
I agree that they have been silghtly less than mediocre, but John Ellis Bush (Jeb) has had fairly sound policies, has actualy improved education, and kept special interests away while maintaining the best interest of the public. As far as I am concerned he is not a run of the mill Bush/politician.

Metaphoricly speaking, if your brother robbs a bank; does that make you an automatic criminal? No it does not.

If your bother commits treason, should it prevent you from getting a job at the CIA? No it should not.

The same is true for a politician, we should judge them on an individual basis and not based on mistakes made by their family members.

I agree completely with the ideas you are speaking here, but I do not believe JEB could be President without the Bush regime controlling him. He may make a fine governor (I don't know), but I think things would change for the worse if he became President.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Googer
One of my personal favorites from the 20th century is Theodore Roosevelt.

Mine, too! I also agree that Reagan was far better than either Bush or Clinton, even if not great.
 

JinLien

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
The way I see it is:


"just because you married the 'it' guy and carpetbagged your way into the senate doesn't mean you deserve your husbands merit or credentials. Prove yourself worthy of the office and I will vote for you. Hell, whoever properly shows that they have credentials to make a great president will get my vote in the end."
She have more than a chance at office, because people such as Bush made it.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: aswedc
John McCain FTW

Thats crazy! It's obvious that you have not been paying attention to the news lately. McCain promises but never delivers. He says he is republican but take side on issues with democrats.

That doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. Blindly playing party lines is something a 3 year old can do. A politician that engages his gray matter regularly would be a refreshing change.

Not saying I think McCain is great, just I have no problem with him, or any other politician, behaving that way.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: Googer
Do you want Hillary Clinton to be our Next President? I want to know what the chances are we might see her in office. :evil:

Depends on who she is running against.

* Bush? Yes, I'd vote Clinton.
John "Amnesty" McCain? Yes
George Allen? No, I'd vote against Clinton.
Tom Tancredo? No
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: LcarsSystem
Theres no point in discussing this, she won't even make it past the primary to the parties nomination, no one likes her. I'd much rather see Gov. Mark Warner whoop on the repubs like nobodies business with his moderate stance on many issues that crosses party lines and serves to unify instead of divide, much like what Bush ran on in the 2000 election but has failed in every way imaginable.

Gov. Mark Warner ftw, draft him for President!:thumbsup:

I like Warner... just not sure how he feels about illegal aliens...
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: DAGTA
That may be, but I bet I'm far from the only person that would not vote for Jeb simply because he's in the Bush family. Both Bush's have been horrible Presidents.

I know that a lot of people are going to disagree, but how many Presidents have we had lately that weren't horrible? IMO every president since Kennedy has sucked.

Reagan was great, wasn't he?

Awesome president.
 
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