Hillary Clinton will increase taxes for the middle class

[Mail5398]

She says tonight that we will go back to the tax structure under Bill Clinton. I am married with four kids and make $85,000 a year. I went back and looked at a 1999 1040 and compared it to a 2007 1040.


$6721 in federal taxes in 2007 and I get $4000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $2721.


$8411 in federal taxes in 1999 and I get $2000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $6411.

I used the 2007 standard deduction and individual deductions for both calculations.


$3690 means I can no longer go on vacation. Thanks Hillary for helping a RICH person like myself out.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Mail5398
She says tonight that we will go back to the tax structure under Bill Clinton. I am married with four kids and make $85,000 a year. I went back and looked at a 1999 1040 and compared it to a 2007 1040.


$6721 in federal taxes in 2007 and I get $4000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $2721.


$8411 in federal taxes in 1999 and I get $2000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $6411.

I used the 2007 standard deduction and individual deductions for both calculations.


$3690 means I can no longer go on vacation. Thanks Hillary for helping a RICH person like myself out.

Somehow i think you analysis is flawed. Second, i would too if i were I president.

 

[Pabster]

HUH? I thought my health care was free!

 

[Capitalizt]

Breaking news: Hillary will raise taxes on the middle class.

Now for the weather report: The sun will rise tomorrow.

 

[Mail5398]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Mail5398
She says tonight that we will go back to the tax structure under Bill Clinton. I am married with four kids and make $85,000 a year. I went back and looked at a 1999 1040 and compared it to a 2007 1040.


$6721 in federal taxes in 2007 and I get $4000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $2721.


$8411 in federal taxes in 1999 and I get $2000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $6411.

I used the 2007 standard deduction and individual deductions for both calculations.


$3690 means I can no longer go on vacation. Thanks Hillary for helping a RICH person like myself out.

Somehow i think you analysis is flawed. Second, i would too if i were I president.

I gross 85,000 not net. The only people who like to raise taxes are the ones who are too lazy to work hard.

 

[bozack]

middle class always gets the shaft

 

[SSSnail]

WTF are you talking about? She says that she'll just let your God's tax cut expire, nice spin.

Edit: Oh wait, you'd rather people like ME financing your vacation? Sure, hop on comrade.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: bozack
middle class always gets the shaft

Very true. The silent majority. With the rich and their lobbyists/attorneys/accountants and the poor with their sad faces, the middle class always foots the bill.

 

[Mail5398]

I will not be able to go on vacation because I will have to work 52 weeks of the year. I pay lots of taxes besides federal income tax. Not counting federal income tax, I paid $19,512 in taxes last year not counting sales tax.

 

[SSSnail]

Somehow, I seriously doubt that with the deduction of your marriage (as head of household?) and four children, you paid ~$20K in taxes. Try again buddy.

 

[Mail5398]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Somehow, I seriously doubt that with the deduction of your marriage (as head of household?) and four children, you paid ~$20K in taxes. Try again buddy.

You are an idiot. Social Security Taxes, State Taxes, Property Taxes, Local Tax, etc.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: Mail5398

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Somehow, I seriously doubt that with the deduction of your marriage (as head of household?) and four children, you paid ~$20K in taxes. Try again buddy.

You are an idiot. Social Security Taxes, State Taxes, Property Taxes, Local Tax, etc.

No, you're the idiot. Somehow you claim that you pay all that taxes, as if we're all idiots and don't know what "deductions" are.

Know this, I make more, and I pay more taxes than you do because I'm single.

 

[Mail5398]

Originally posted by: SSSnail

Originally posted by: Mail5398

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Somehow, I seriously doubt that with the deduction of your marriage (as head of household?) and four children, you paid ~$20K in taxes. Try again buddy.

You are an idiot. Social Security Taxes, State Taxes, Property Taxes, Local Tax, etc.

No, you're the idiot. Somehow you claim that you pay all that taxes, as if we're all idiots and don't know what "deductions" are.

Know this, I make more, and I pay more taxes than you do because I'm single.

Great if you make more. Why do you want to pay more taxes? So Washington can waste it.

 

[DonaldC]

I thought we were all gonna get free health insurance too. I love it when the government hands out 'free' things.

 

[Mail5398]

Originally posted by: DonaldC
I thought we were all gonna get free health insurance too. I love it when the government hands out 'free' things.

Free is great.

 

[SSSnail]

No, it's called responsibility; I do believe some of my tax dollars do actually help upholding this freaking country that we're living in. Some of those might be misspent, but I do see roads being fixed, public utilities and facilities and programs that help unfortunate people, etc... Those I don't use any of it, but I understand the cause behind taxation. If anyone should be bitching, it's people like me, not you.

You don't see me with four kids (which would grant me all these "tax credits" and "deductions") and come on to an internet forum spreading FUD and spinning what's a presidential candidate said.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Mail5398

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Mail5398
She says tonight that we will go back to the tax structure under Bill Clinton. I am married with four kids and make $85,000 a year. I went back and looked at a 1999 1040 and compared it to a 2007 1040.


$6721 in federal taxes in 2007 and I get $4000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $2721.


$8411 in federal taxes in 1999 and I get $2000 in child tax credit. I end up paying $6411.

I used the 2007 standard deduction and individual deductions for both calculations.


$3690 means I can no longer go on vacation. Thanks Hillary for helping a RICH person like myself out.

Somehow i think you analysis is flawed. Second, i would too if i were I president.

I gross 85,000 not net. The only people who like to raise taxes are the ones who are too lazy to work hard.

was that supposed to be a reply to me? What of what I said did you address?

 

[Mail5398]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
No, it's called responsibility; I do believe some of my tax dollars do actually help upholding this freaking country that we're living in. Some of those might be misspent, but I do see roads being fixed, public utilities and facilities and programs that help unfortunate people, etc... Those I don't use any of it, but I understand the cause behind taxation. If anyone should be bitching, it's people like me, not you.

You don't see me with four kids (which would grant me all these "tax credits" and "deductions") and come on to an internet forum spreading FUD and spinning what's a presidential candidate said.

It's not my fault you are so ugly you can't find anyone.


Money isn't being spent on roads, check out the latest stories on bridge inspections, it is being spent fighting a war we will never win.

 

[Pabster]

The top 10% pay 70% or better now of the tax bill.

How much higher should we make it?

 

[randym431]

Hillary Clinton will increase taxes for the middle class

Like the Republicans havent done in your kids, their kids, and their kids
already?
Think of getting things "right" for you kids future.
And stop being greedy with this ME ME ME NOW NOW NOW attitude.
Someone's got to fix the Bush mess. :roll:

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: Mail5398

Originally posted by: SSSnail
No, it's called responsibility; I do believe some of my tax dollars do actually help upholding this freaking country that we're living in. Some of those might be misspent, but I do see roads being fixed, public utilities and facilities and programs that help unfortunate people, etc... Those I don't use any of it, but I understand the cause behind taxation. If anyone should be bitching, it's people like me, not you.

You don't see me with four kids (which would grant me all these "tax credits" and "deductions") and come on to an internet forum spreading FUD and spinning what's a presidential candidate said.

It's not my fault you are so ugly you can't find anyone.


Money isn't being spent on roads, check out the latest stories on bridge inspections, it is being spent fighting a war we will never win.

LFMAO!!!

Here you are again proving that you're the masster of assumption. But, let's not talk about my philandering life or looks for a minute and shine a spot light on you for a second yeah? How old are you? And why do you have four kids? Is it because it's a trap that you couldn't get out of, or is it because... uh oh... you have to? If you had a choice, you wouldn't have four kids and be married.

Aside from that, your understanding of what's going on in the country, let alone the world is minimal. The money that we're spending needlessly on the war is borrowed money, i.e. on credit (something you're probably used to).

What I don't understand is that while you, a bigger burden to society is taxed less than me, a more productive and a bigger contributor to society is taxed more. Care to explain that? I'd like to see more of your FUD logics.

 

[senseamp]

We need to raise taxes, we are running huge deficits courtesy of Dub.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: senseamp
We need to cut spending, we are running huge deficits courtesy of Dub.

Fixed! :thumbsup:

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
We need to cut spending, we are running huge deficits courtesy of Dub.

Fixed! :thumbsup:

GOP had ample opportunity to do so. Instead they signed us up for Iraq and pharma spending.
You can thank them for the tax hike.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: senseamp
We need to cut spending, we are running huge deficits courtesy of Dub.

Fixed! :thumbsup:

GOP had ample opportunity to do so. Instead they signed us up for Iraq and pharma spending.You can thank them for the tax hike.

So now you don't like spending money on healthcare?

If we get Universal Health Care are you going to complain about money going to big medical?