Hillary faints @ ground zero?

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Kazukian

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Yeah, technically any form of bacterial pneumonia could be contagious. But most forms are minimally contagious. When my mother had it just a few months ago, the doctor said she had a severe case because it encompassed 70% of her lungs. But he said nothing about contagion. But my mother asked, and he said, it's slightly contagious, "just don't cough in someone's face." Most cases of pneumonia are secondary to a flu, not transmitted from person to person.

Look, I know you guys really, really want this to be a big deal, but pneumonia is not that serious in this day and age. It varies in severity depending on the strain, and most especially on how much of the lungs have been infected. In the majority of cases it just isn't that big of a thing.

And I've never seen pneumonia/dehydration affect anyone like was caught on video.
 

agent00f

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Yeah, you're kind of a dumb f#ck.

No, I'm pretty sure the dumb fucks are the ones rather easily persuaded by anyone who'll tell them they're not stupid. Remind me again what those right wing blogs say about the relatively intellect of their readers vs the ivory tower or any sort of scholar.
 

woolfe9998

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And I've never seen pneumonia/dehydration affect anyone like was caught on video.

What relevance does what you've personally seen have? Are you a doctor? Have you seen hundreds of cases of pneumonia? I'm guessing the answer is no.

I don't find it all that unlikely that someone at age 68 could pass out after spending a good amount of time in extreme heat, with or without pneumonia. But pneumonia compromises lung function which would of course increase the likelihood of such an occurrence. It hardly seems all that surprising. And I doubt you would see it as such if this wasn't Hillary Clinton.
 
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Kazukian

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God, not even going there, except to say Hillary is and will be one of the most photographed and videotaped people on the planet for the rest of her life. Guess what that means.
 

Kazukian

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And very, very concerned.

LOL, concern trolling asked and answered, I do not think any diagnosis should preclude her from being elected, and Hillary will win the election, barring a giant meteor strike in North America.

I do think the heathers are probably right, and time will tell.

The doctor's statement released showed they exposed her to a ton of ionizing radiation with all of those CT scans, so much, I would have suggested a family member have a combination of MRI's and CT scans instead.
 
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compuwiz1

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While I'm not a fan of Clinton, I don't have a lot to say here, except, wow, there are lots of vultures in here. Are some really hovering over, waiting for her to die? It seems like it. I suppose it would be the same way, if it were Trump.

There is so much idiotic partisanship here...probably why I don't participate much anymore. The shit that goes on around here reminds me of 6th grade. My dad can beat your dad up...my house is nicer than your house...my candidate is better than your candidate. They both suck!
 
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LegendKiller

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I'm not going to put the effort in to be serious with you. It wouldn't matter how many facts people put in front of you, you would ignore it and leave the forums for a couple weeks instead of risking your preconceived ideas.

So pretty much you can't come up with anything to refute the info, because it is not refutable. Something major happened, they used multiple excuses, then had to get a doctor to paper over the excuses. You guys run around saying "Well, a doctor would never lie", but here we have incontrovertible evidence that she did lie.

Why?

You don't want to answer that because it would be inconvenient to you. You would have to acknowledge that, yet again, your candidate is hiding something significant. The Presidency is about trust and her trust factor is plummeting.
 

JSt0rm

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lol. You dont have evidence of shit. I dont even know what you are arguing about. Thats how little I care.
 

LegendKiller

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lol. You dont have evidence of shit. I dont even know what you are arguing about. Thats how little I care.
Sure I do. The whole letter is bullshit. The big question is why.

You don't care but independents do. And that is why you are losing. Of you demanded accountability, then you wouldn't be.
 

Kazukian

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"Non contagious bacterial pneumonia".

Her doctor is attempting to rewrite biology, WTF?
 

flexy

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I do think the heathers are probably right, and time will tell.
The doctor's statement released showed they exposed her to a ton of ionizing radiation with all of those CT scans, so much, I would have suggested a family member have a combination of MRI's and CT scans instead.

Are you referring to the latest medical document which was published September 14th, which said that despite this minor pneumonia (which she is now possibly already over it) she is as healthy as you and me?

They mentioned a sinus/ear infection (something I have too on occasion but don't consider this as being "ill' by any means), some seasonal allergies, every other results are "normal", mention that even the episode w/ the blood clot from 2012 has left no traces, LET ALONE "BRAIN DAMAGE" although she still takes the thinners/de-coagulation agent preventatively.

Nothing, nothing at all indicating a serious condition that would be out-of-the ordinary. She doesn't even take any medications worth-mentioning despite some vitamins and something for the allergies as far as I recall.

So..how can you say "the healthers are probably right" even if it is OBVIOUS that 99% of their claims have null, zero base in reality and are based on photoshops and "random twitter postings"?, like the majority of claims the Right makes and has made in the past? Pure fantasies.

Give me a list of their claims, we can debunk EVERY.SINGLE.ONE as total lunacy.
 

flexy

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"Non contagious bacterial pneumonia".

Her doctor is attempting to rewrite biology, WTF?

Maybe you should learn the difference between viruses (virii ) and bacteria?

Or differently asking: Her medical report does INDEED stress that the pneumonia is "non contagious", so saying, no, it is, obviously implies the medical record is false/fake...which then (tata!!) leads up to the next speculative conspiracy theory.

Obviously, it's easy to say that her medical documents are false/untrue...if this is what you want?
 

abj13

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"Non contagious bacterial pneumonia".

Her doctor is attempting to rewrite biology, WTF?

Good grief. Since you know biology so well. What are the common pathogens in typical bacterial lobar pneumonia? And of those pathogens, which are highly contagious that one must either 1) provide antibiotic prophylaxis to persons exposed to the index case or 2) the infected case must be kept in isolation (as if the patient was admitted to the hospital)?

Biology, microbiology, and the CDC guidelines would suggest you have no idea of what you are talking about.

And since you like to speak as an expert on MRI's, what is the sensitivity of MRI in diagnosing a bacterial pneumonia?
 

Kazukian

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There was no way for anyone to know what the causative bacteria was until Monday night. C&S's take 72 hours.

An MRI would expose her to less radiation, there is no safe level of ionizing radiation, rule of thumb is a CT scan is equivalent to 300 chest X-rays. No imaging study determines the type of bacteria, it rules in or out pneumonia.

When she was out and hugging that child on Sunday, there was no way anyone could tell if she was exposing that child to a "non contagious" bacteria. For another 24 hours.
 

abj13

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There was no way for anyone to know what the causative bacteria was until Monday night. C&S's take 72 hours.

An MRI would expose her to less radiation, there is no safe level of ionizing radiation, rule of thumb is a CT scan is equivalent to 300 chest X-rays. No imaging study determines the type of bacteria, it rules in or out pneumonia.

When she was out and hugging that child on Sunday, there was no way anyone could tell if she was exposing that child to a "non contagious" bacteria. For another 24 hours.

Great job on not answering the questions. What bacteria that causes typical bacterial lobar pneumonia is contagious? There are 3-4 common bacterial pathogens in typical pneumonia that cause the vast majority of cases. Most medical students can recite them by heart. What are they? And which of those are contagious? What are these organisms that would put a "child" at risk?

What data suggests that a MRI can readily detect a pneumonia with high sensitivity and is apart of routine lung imaging for evaluation? Which part of the IDSA, CDC, AAP pneumonia guidelines suggest a MRI is an adequate study to evaluate for pneumonia?

I ask all of these questions because your responses demonstrate very little understanding of pneumonia and is nothing but concern trolling. Several published guidelines and basic microbiology knowledge are all in conflict with your false statements.
 

Kazukian

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Great job on not answering the questions. What bacteria that causes typical bacterial lobar pneumonia is contagious? There are 3-4 common bacterial pathogens in typical pneumonia that cause the vast majority of cases. Most medical students can recite them by heart. What are they? And which of those are contagious? What are these organisms that would put a "child" at risk?

What data suggests that a MRI can readily detect a pneumonia with high sensitivity and is apart of routine lung imaging for evaluation? Which part of the IDSA, CDC, AAP pneumonia guidelines suggest a MRI is an adequate study to evaluate for pneumonia?

I ask all of these questions because your responses demonstrate very little understanding of pneumonia and is nothing but concern trolling. Several published guidelines and basic microbiology knowledge are all in conflict with your false statements.

If it was a non contagious bacteria, and her physician had the C&S results, shy didn't she say what it was, and my point is valid, 72 hours for C&S results, you're guessing for 72 hours.

Half a dozen of her staffers claimed to have pneumonia, that doesn't sound like non infectious bacterial pneumonia.

I'm not going down some insane rabbit hole with you.

This is theatre, and her physician's bought into it.

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Jhhnn

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There was no way for anyone to know what the causative bacteria was until Monday night. C&S's take 72 hours.

An MRI would expose her to less radiation, there is no safe level of ionizing radiation, rule of thumb is a CT scan is equivalent to 300 chest X-rays. No imaging study determines the type of bacteria, it rules in or out pneumonia.

When she was out and hugging that child on Sunday, there was no way anyone could tell if she was exposing that child to a "non contagious" bacteria. For another 24 hours.

And the embellishments of concern trolling. Post a pic of the hugging.
 
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