Hillary gets in a harsh exchange over her Iran vote

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Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Shivetya
What Hillary encountered is the a member of the far left, the looney left. There are quite a few of the far left who think they drive the party, in some cases they are correct. They are rabidly anti-war and see any declaration of terrorist organization as a step towards war; with Bush thats probably true.

The problem is, she needs to tell the people the truth. The world sucks. These types of things are true and just asking for a candidate to lie to you or believe in the tooth fairy does not get you a good President in the end.

It did show her temper. I do believe that she is more used to staged appearances and as she gets more of these she is going to have to work on her "famous" temper. Will be interesting to see

Given her reaction to this guy, shouldn't this be a huge point in her favor with you people? After all, you're constantly complaining about "the far left" controlling the Democratic party. What better candidate for office then if she has this kind of reaction to far left talking points? Or let me guess, that was just a convenient attack on the Democrats...when it doesn't work for a particular candidate, that's not a good thing, it just means it time to move on to something else.

What I am saying is that she should expect more attacks as she continues to move to the center and even to the right on some issues. The moveon left is merciless, they have lambasted many a Democrat who "dared" to stray from the line moveon wants.

As I said, it will be interesting to see how well she handles it.

It will be interesting, but I always thought conservatives read WAY too much into groups like MoveOn. Sure, they are loud, but the amount of actual control they have seems limited (except in their own minds, and the minds of a lot of righties). The "vast, left-wing conspiracy theory" seems largely imaginary to me, and dare I say, like nothing so much as a cheap political trick for the Republicans.
 

Pabster

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Apr 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
It will be interesting, but I always thought conservatives read WAY too much into groups like MoveOn. Sure, they are loud, but the amount of actual control they have seems limited (except in their own minds, and the minds of a lot of righties). The "vast, left-wing conspiracy theory" seems largely imaginary to me, and dare I say, like nothing so much as a cheap political trick for the Republicans.

One problem Rainsford. MoveOn.org has brought in over $300 Million Bucks for the DNC and party coffers. That kinda money buys a lot of influence. And I mean a lot.

There's nothing imaginary about the fact that the Democratic Party is bought and paid for, by MoveOn.org. The founders have even admitted as much. ("It's ours. We bought it. We paid for it. And we're taking it back!")
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Rainsford
It will be interesting, but I always thought conservatives read WAY too much into groups like MoveOn. Sure, they are loud, but the amount of actual control they have seems limited (except in their own minds, and the minds of a lot of righties). The "vast, left-wing conspiracy theory" seems largely imaginary to me, and dare I say, like nothing so much as a cheap political trick for the Republicans.

One problem Rainsford. MoveOn.org has brought in over $300 Million Bucks for the DNC and party coffers. That kinda money buys a lot of influence. And I mean a lot.

There's nothing imaginary about the fact that the Democratic Party is bought and paid for, by MoveOn.org. The founders have even admitted as much. ("It's ours. We bought it. We paid for it. And we're taking it back!")

moveon.org is full of shit.

if they had as much influence as they think they do, Edwards wouldn't be trailing last in the polls.
 

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Jun 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: Pabster

One problem Rainsford. MoveOn.org has brought in over $300 Million Bucks for the DNC and party coffers. That kinda money buys a lot of influence. And I mean a lot.

There's nothing imaginary about the fact that the Democratic Party is bought and paid for, by MoveOn.org. The founders have even admitted as much. ("It's ours. We bought it. We paid for it. And we're taking it back!")

Paranoia; it's what's for dinner.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Hillary is just showing her true colors. When she isn't on a focus-group polling based Sunday Talk Show Marathon, she comes across precisely as she really is: cold, calculating, and cruel. She's about as charismatic as a pig and that might be an understatement.

Hillary : Pig :: Fred Thompson : ?

If Hillary has the charisma of a pig then Fred Thompson has the charisma of what?
I await the conclusion of my analogy
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: Pabster

One problem Rainsford. MoveOn.org has brought in over $300 Million Bucks for the DNC and party coffers. That kinda money buys a lot of influence. And I mean a lot.

There's nothing imaginary about the fact that the Democratic Party is bought and paid for, by MoveOn.org. The founders have even admitted as much. ("It's ours. We bought it. We paid for it. And we're taking it back!")

Paranoia; it's what's for dinner.

Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch and mid day snack...

 

Pabster

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Apr 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Lothar
If Hillary has the charisma of a pig then Fred Thompson has the charisma of what?
I await the conclusion of my analogy

No one said Fred was Mr. Charistmatic. He doesn't try to be, either. Charisma doesn't make a good President in and of itself. I think 42 taught us well on that

Fred isn't pretending to be something he's not. Hillary is. And every time an incident like this occurs (which is most of the time, actually) her negative perceptions are justified.

I will say this about Hillary. She is - by far - the most determined of all the candidates. She has had her eye on the White House for decades. And she'll stop at nothing. Her campaign machine is arguably the best in DC and no one plays dirtier.
 

ProfJohn

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Jul 28, 2006
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Here is the video ABC

Her "what you read to me, that somebody obviously sent to you." comment really came across in a bad way.

The woman has no warmth at all.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Rainsford
It will be interesting, but I always thought conservatives read WAY too much into groups like MoveOn. Sure, they are loud, but the amount of actual control they have seems limited (except in their own minds, and the minds of a lot of righties). The "vast, left-wing conspiracy theory" seems largely imaginary to me, and dare I say, like nothing so much as a cheap political trick for the Republicans.

One problem Rainsford. MoveOn.org has brought in over $300 Million Bucks for the DNC and party coffers. That kinda money buys a lot of influence. And I mean a lot.

There's nothing imaginary about the fact that the Democratic Party is bought and paid for, by MoveOn.org. The founders have even admitted as much. ("It's ours. We bought it. We paid for it. And we're taking it back!")

Wooohooo :thumbsup:
 

Jamie571

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Nov 7, 2002
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The questions are going to get much tougher than this. If she goes too far off tanget Fox news will run wild with a video clip then the rest of the media will follow suit and its all over for her.

She should take a lesson from Huckabee and just make a joke when faced with a question like this.
 

ProfJohn

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Jul 28, 2006
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There is no doubt that we will see a few more blows up before election.

Wait for the debates when she doesn't have a Democrat across from her and Rudy or Fred lays into her 93 healthcare plan that would have sent Doctors to jail if they practiced outside of the government plan.

How does she respond to a question like that.
 
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