Hillary makes it official

[rudeguy]

We need a poop emoji

 

[Brian Stirling]

Politicians on both sides take money from donors or they wouldn't get elected in the first place.

Hillary is NOT your grandfathers Democrat -- she is whatever will get her elected. To the righties out there remember that your candidates are, during primary season, moving even farther to the right to get the nomination but will then move left to win the race.

To the dems out there ... why would you vote for a Republican pretending to be a Democrat.

There is NOTHING shocking about the revelations in this book, the current system is so dependent on huge money that only huge money matters.


Brian

 

[UberNeuman]

To the dems out there ... why would you vote for a Republican pretending to be a Democrat.

Brian

Because the Republican party has lost its fucking mind.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'd like to see you answer my questions.

TED CRUZ
Said Chuck Hagel’s nomination as defense secretary "has been publicly celebrated by the Iranian government."

Here's one for ya...

 

[rudeguy]

TED CRUZ
Said Chuck Hagel’s nomination as defense secretary "has been publicly celebrated by the Iranian government."

Here's one for ya...

Could you please post the link where he said that?

 

[soundforbjt]

You're my favorite choice. But if I start a thread about you it will be deemed a callout thread, it will get locked and I may get disciplined.

So, you have nothing good to say about the R's choices...not surprised.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Could you please post the link where he said that?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/26/fact-checking-hagel-nomination/

 

[rudeguy]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/26/fact-checking-hagel-nomination/

http://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2015/apr/08/ted-cruz-did-not-say-no-place-gays-atheists-his-am/

 

[nickqt]

http://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2015/apr/08/ted-cruz-did-not-say-no-place-gays-atheists-his-am/

Nice goalpost shift!

 

[rudeguy]

Nice goalpost shift!

Damn it. He ninja edited on me.

I hate that shit. Makes me look like an ass. THAT'S MY JOB, NOT YOURS!

 

[Jhhnn]

I'd like to see some threads here from the right/conservatives extolling the values/platform of their favorite choice, instead nothing but bashing the other opponent.
Don't any of you repubs like any of your choices? Where's the support? You can't get anyone interested if you show no support for your own...Or are your prospects that bad?

It's what they need to do to divert attention from the results of their own policy at home & abroad. Really. Decades of relentless effort on their part culminated in the GWB presidency & Repub congress with disastrous results. We now live with the consequences.

Think of it as a propaganda fed personality disorder on a grand scale.

It is not rational.

Confronted by evidence which contradicts their values or beliefs, a person is forced to make an uncomfortable choice:

1. To hold to their belief and disregard the data they have been presented with or
2. To modify their beliefs and risk having to re-evaluate their world view, their choices and their character.

http://outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/CognitiveDissonance.html

The more compelling the reasons to go with 2, the harder they hold to 1. The enormous difficulty of that leads deeper down the rabbit hole. They'll go to extraordinary lengths-

Building up by tearing others down. Rather than becoming the best person they can be, people with personality disorders often lack the self-confidence needed to feel they can excel. Instead, they look for ways to tear others down, often justifying or in other ways invalidating the gains and achievements of others.

http://blogs.psychcentral.com/relat...10/13/personality-disorders-life-in-a-bubble/

Substitute "party" for "person" & you'll have a handle on modern Republicanism. You'll notice other familiar behaviors listed as well.

 

[Victorian Gray]

http://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2015/apr/08/ted-cruz-did-not-say-no-place-gays-atheists-his-am/

What does that have to do with this?

"TED CRUZ
Said Chuck Hagel’s nomination as defense secretary "has been publicly celebrated by the Iranian government."

You asked for proof, you got it.

 

[trenchfoot]

So do I ever make thoughtful, substantive, even humane (WTF?) posts where we still disagree, or are you a more doctrinaire leftie who divides the nation into people who agree with you, people who are more liberal than you, and crazy people? You know, the people who insist that you can bet your freedom on the meaning of "corruptly" while the meaning of "is" remains beyond human understanding?


Hey, hard to stand toe to toe with her when she's standing on all that Chinese and Russian money.


The point escapes me but I really like that JPEG, so +1.

Apologies for not catching that one sooner. Humorous and true to boot. :thumbsup:

 

[sportage]

This author is a hit man for the far right. Nothing more.
He's a paid schmuck.
I wouldn't worry about this schmuck hitting on Hillary.
Worry about his next hit job for the righties.
His book on Jeb Bush.
The only candidate they hate more than Hillary, is Jeb.
The Koch Brothers will sponsor ($$$) Scott Walker.
Sheldon Adelson has been hand $$$ jobbing Marco Rubio.
As all the players line up with cash in hand, the two they certainly do not want, is naturally Hillary and equally Jeb Bush.
I'd love to see Hillary pick Jeb as her running mate and piss'em off.

 

[rudeguy]

What does that have to do with this?

"TED CRUZ
Said Chuck Hagel’s nomination as defense secretary "has been publicly celebrated by the Iranian government."

You asked for proof, you got it.

His original post was that Ted Cruz said what was in my link. He edited his post at the same time I was replying.

 

[zinfamous]

I will never concede!

Education does not equal intelligence or wisdom. And I solder just fine. I have an industrial fume extractor but I've been working away from it. The upside is I'm pretty sure I no longer have finger prints. I can now become a crook like you democrats!

education correlates to intelligence. it doesn't have much of anything to do with wisdom.

 

[Perknose]

But then he'll go off on hysterical, off-kilter, unsubstantiated diatribes...

... or are you a more doctrinaire leftie who divides the nation into people who agree with you, people who are more liberal than you, and crazy people?

Thank you for instantly making my point.

 

[norseamd]

education correlates to intelligence. it doesn't have much of anything to do with wisdom. __________________

Education can teach some wise thinking but whether or not something gets learned or understood actually is depending on the student not the classroom.

 

[Victorian Gray]

His original post was that Ted Cruz said what was in my link. He edited his post at the same time I was replying.

Ah, different quote. ok.

 

[boomerang]

Politicians on both sides take money from donors or they wouldn't get elected in the first place.

Hillary is NOT your grandfathers Democrat -- she is whatever will get her elected. To the righties out there remember that your candidates are, during primary season, moving even farther to the right to get the nomination but will then move left to win the race.

To the dems out there ... why would you vote for a Republican pretending to be a Democrat.

There is NOTHING shocking about the revelations in this book, the current system is so dependent on huge money that only huge money matters.


Brian

Word is that the author is going after Jeb next. I say great. People want big money out of politics. Guys like Schweizer are the ones that can help orchestrate that. There is going to be some fallout though. Which means that some people's super-fave candidate may be collateral damage. The system can't be overhauled without that in modern day America. Do we start changing the system today, or should we wait until 2017? It comes down to being adult about it or being childish about it.

On a related note, the Uranium pay for play is IMO going to be huge.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Heres what happens when you support Hillary Clinton and then she decides she never met you, after taking $1,000,000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNyUz08mtBg

Takes the money from Peter Paul / Stan Lee (Spider Man fame), thanks him on several occasions and videos. Dirt is then published about Paul, decides she does not know him and omits his contributions on Federal Election Commission records. Paul is then mysteriously arrested and thrown in jail. Her campaign later sends a letter asking for $100,000 more to help!

More in the video...

 

[brycejones]

Heres what happens when you support Hillary Clinton and then she decides she never met you, after taking $1,000,000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNyUz08mtBg

Takes the money from Peter Paul / Stan Lee (Spider Man fame), thanks him on several occasions and videos. Dirt is then published about Paul, decides she does not know him and omits his contributions on Federal Election Commission records. Paul is then mysteriously arrested and thrown in jail. Her campaign later sends a letter asking for $100,000 more to help!

More in the video...

From the you-tube page:

Banned by the Media Hillary Clinton lies Uncensored & Exposed!
Published on Mar 30, 2014
This is the most shocking expose on the blatant corruption surrounding Hillary Clinton. Includes exclusive home videos of Hillary to expose the illegalities that elected Hillary to the Senate and the obstructions of justice that keep her there.

To believe this takes a special kind of crazy.

 

[rudeguy]

From the you-tube page:

Banned by the Media Hillary Clinton lies Uncensored & Exposed!
Published on Mar 30, 2014
This is the most shocking expose on the blatant corruption surrounding Hillary Clinton. Includes exclusive home videos of Hillary to expose the illegalities that elected Hillary to the Senate and the obstructions of justice that keep her there.

To believe this takes a special kind of crazy.

I didn't watch most of the video because I hate that style of "reporting" where they smash together 200 different 5 seconds snips. With that being said, he previous campaigns had HUGE issues with accounting and reporting. It would not surprise me a single bit if she hid money. I also wouldn't be surprised if she called in a favor to have that guy investigated. But by no means do I take that video any more seriously than I would something from InfoWars or some other wackjob site.

You do have to admit that there have been severe issues with her campaign finances. Misreported money, money raised by fugitives, improper donations, somehow taking 5 years to pay for her campaign. Its one of the biggest reasons I laughed when I heard her rallying for campaign finance reform. The one who can't even obey the rules on the books wants more rules? Then tries to raise more money than anyone before?

Take into account her complete lack of the concept of money (dead broke), her history of hiding information (files, emails) and her complete disregard for honesty and I don't see how she could be trusted to even have a government credit card let alone access to the entire nation's bank account.

 

[Jhhnn]

Heres what happens when you support Hillary Clinton and then she decides she never met you, after taking $1,000,000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNyUz08mtBg

Takes the money from Peter Paul / Stan Lee (Spider Man fame), thanks him on several occasions and videos. Dirt is then published about Paul, decides she does not know him and omits his contributions on Federal Election Commission records. Paul is then mysteriously arrested and thrown in jail. Her campaign later sends a letter asking for $100,000 more to help!

More in the video...

Outstanding conspiracy theory spin, not quite up to Benghazi standards. Paul wasn't "mysteriously" arrested at all but rather convicted of securities fraud-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul#Securities_fraud_conviction_and_jail_terms

Portraying him as some sort of victim is delusional.

 

[boomerang]

Take into account her complete lack of the concept of money (dead broke), her history of hiding information (files, emails) and her complete disregard for honesty and I don't see how she could be trusted to even have a government credit card let alone access to the entire nation's bank account.

It's potentially far worse than that. Right now we're hearing a lot of quid pro quo, pay-for-play allegations. She's destroyed her emails. Covered her tracks. How do we know exactly what she's done, how do we know her server wasn't compromised and that foreign nations or bad actors in the world don't have what they need to blackmail her as President?

She needs to spend some time with her grandchild. Bouncing the little urchin on her knee on the porch in Chappaqua. I think she'll eventually come to that realization when she is secure that all her bad history coming to light will be forgotten and forgiven. Jail time or grandchild time. Which will her ego choose?

If she runs and wins, we'll have entered a new era. One in which the criminals truly rule the nation. We've suspected for a long time that could be the case. With her in office, we'll know for sure.