Bullshit. It just means they wanted to hear his story & Pagliano wouldn't say anything w/o immunity, which is his right.
I'm certainly no expert, but doesn't the fact that Pagliano being granted immunity imply that a grand jury has indeed been convened?
The reason we know it's more than angry right wingers like bengazi is precisely because the FBI is investigating, has specifically confirmed they are, and their director says he's very close to it.
I do wonder how she can reconcile this "oh, it was just an overaggressive retroactive classification, no big thang!" with all the manhowers the FBI is throwing.
What will truly be interesting is if the FBI calls her in because she then has two choices:
1) Lawyer up and lips shut, which makes her look ultra guilty during an election over what she says is a non-issue
2) Be candid, which if they've asked her in will probably be her admitting guilt, and again that makes her look ultra guilty.
But to be sure I entertain no such illusions that these fantasies will come to fruition. This is more than likely to peter out. Gotta keep expectations in check.
But to be sure I entertain no such illusions that these fantasies will come to fruition. This is more than likely to peter out. Gotta keep expectations in check.
I understand that immunity is being used to compel testimony. Thank you.Bullshit. It just means they wanted to hear his story & Pagliano wouldn't say anything w/o immunity, which is his right.
I understand that immunity is being used to compel testimony. Thank you.
On my drive in to work today,I happened to change the radio station to news radio. They were talking about Hillary and FBI. I admit that I didn't he the full newstory but the part I did hear was some consultant/guest say that since this fellow who was in charge of Clintons server was given immunity, he thinks, that a grand jury has already been impaneled. He said something to the effect that he has never seen anyone granted immunity under FBI investigation not have a grand jury already impaneled.
I believe a judge with jurisdiction can also grant immunity, but that may be wrong absent an indictment or a known crime. However, I would be surprised if the DoJ doesn't have its own ability to grant immunity. Personally I would be surprised if a grand jury has been impaneled or a standing grand jury presented with a bill, since you cannot predict or control a grand jury. (Although admittedly a grand jury in D.C. investigating the presumptive Democrat Party Presidential nominee is as predictable as any grand jury is ever likely to be.)Yeah. I've heard several legal types say it's logical to assume a grand jury has been impaneled. They did not say it was a certainty though.
Fern
Let me get this straight, Hillary is accused of just receiving classifed materials on a private server, use of which was legal at the time of her appointment to office. Some of which were classified only after they were found to exist on that server. Tempest in a tea pot, all over again.
Please cite an actual FBI source stating they are investigating her server. All I remember is a statement that they're investigating classified information handling within the State Department, including Clinton (and that statement may have come from DoS rather that the FBI). That's one of the many facts you guys miss.[ ... ]
The fact that the FBI has confirmed they are investigating her server ...
Oh, and how much manpower is that? Be sure to cite an actual FBI source, or at least some other credible source with first-hand information about the investigation. Then, once you have that number, tell us what the appropriate level of manpower should be for the FBI to do a thorough investigation of this scope.[ ... ]
I do wonder how she can reconcile this "oh, it was just an overaggressive retroactive classification, no big thang!" with all the manhowers the FBI is throwing. ...
nce again, we have way too many rubes slurping speculation and innuendo, and embracing it as fact. Critical thinking FAIL.
lol So Hillary operating her own server is purely coincidental, eh? You funny boy.Please cite an actual FBI source stating they are investigating her server. All I remember is a statement that they're investigating classified information handling within the State Department, including Clinton (and that statement may have come from DoS rather that the FBI). That's one of the many facts you guys miss.
Oh, and how much manpower is that? Be sure to cite an actual FBI source, or at least some other credible source with first-hand information about the investigation. Then, once you have that number, tell us what the appropriate level of manpower should be for the FBI to do a thorough investigation of this scope.
Once again, we have way too many rubes slurping speculation and innuendo, and embracing it as fact. Critical thinking FAIL.
Given that I said nothing of the sort and that you claim to tie your own shoes, I'm forced to conclude you're simply dishonest. That makes you pretty useless for discussion.lol So Hillary operating her own server is purely coincidental, eh? You funny boy.
Yes, go back to yesterday's posts and see why this thread was bumped. That was the point.I could point out that this thread is over sixty days old. Might be time for a title change.
I realize that it would be cruel to expect you to understand what you say, but when you post:Given that I said nothing of the sort and that you claim to tie your own shoes, I'm forced to conclude you're simply dishonest. That makes you pretty useless for discussion.
Yes, go back to yesterday's posts and see why this thread was bumped. That was the point.
then you've at least strongly hinted that is the case. If you refuse to believe that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and her server without some definitive proof, then clearly I'm the only one of us who ties his own shoes. Correctly, anyway.Please cite an actual FBI source stating they are investigating her server. SNIP
Please cite an actual FBI source stating they are investigating her server. All I remember is a statement that they're investigating classified information handling within the State Department, including Clinton (and that statement may have come from DoS rather that the FBI). That's one of the many facts you guys miss.
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FBI formally confirms its investigation of Hillary Clintons email server
In a letter disclosed Monday in a federal court filing, the FBI confirms one of the worlds worst-kept secrets: It is looking into Hillary Clintons use of a private email server.
Why say this at all, since it was widely known to be true? Because in August in response to a judges direction, the State Department asked the FBI for information about what it was up to. Sorry, the FBI said at the time, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any investigation.
Now, in a letter dated February 2 and filed in court Monday, the FBIs general counsel, James Baker, notes that in public statements and congressional testimony, the FBI has acknowledged generally that it is working on matters related to former Secretary Clintons use of a private email server.
I realize that it would be cruel to expect you to understand what you say, but when you post:
then you've at least strongly hinted that is the case. If you refuse to believe that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and her server without some definitive proof, then clearly I'm the only one of us who ties his own shoes. Correctly, anyway.
Actually, Clinton is not under FBI investigation. The inquiry to which Bush refers revolves around the private email server Clinton used while serving as secretary of state. And it is not a criminal investigation.
Here are the facts.
In July 2015, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community sent what is called a security referral to members of the executive branch. A security referral is essentially a notification that classified information might exist in a location outside of the governments possession. In this case, the location was Clintons private email server.
Officials told reporters at the time that the FBI was not targeting Clinton specifically.
As part of its inquiry, the FBI has looked into the security setup for Clintons home server and a thumb drive that has copies of Clintons work emails. But most details of the investigation have remained secret. Its even unclear at this point whether the FBI probe is just a preliminary inquiry or if it has evolved into a true investigation, according to Politico.
Ruh-roh, looks like Bowfinger is gonna need a minute to put on his shocked face.
How typically dishonest of you. It surprises no one that you clipped that one sentence out of context, and ignored my very next sentence:I realize that it would be cruel to expect you to understand what you say, but when you post:
then you've at least strongly hinted that is the case. If you refuse to believe that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and her server without some definitive proof, then clearly I'm the only one of us who ties his own shoes. Correctly, anyway.
lol Of course Hillary isn't under investigation. Every thinking person knows that "matters related to former Secretary Clintons use of a private email server really means "matters unrelated to former Secretary Clintons use of a private email server.I suspect you wear flip flops.
You aren't being honest of course.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/
So I assume you've now read Fern's post and hopefully had someone explain it. What would you like to say now about whether or not the FBI is investigating "former Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server"?How typically dishonest of you. It surprises no one that you clipped that one sentence out of context, and ignored my very next sentence:
"All I remember is a statement that they're investigating classified information handling within the State Department, including Clinton"That's nothing at all like your lie, "lol So Hillary operating her own server is purely coincidental, eh". I suggested nothing of the sort.
lol Of course Hillary isn't under investigation. Every thinking person knows that "matters related to former Secretary Clintons use of a private email server really means "matters unrelated to former Secretary Clintons use of a private email server.
Yes, and it matches what I said. The FBI acknowledges that Clinton and her server are included within the scope of their investigation. If you read Baker's very next sentence, however, he said:
Whoa, careful! You damned near ran me over with those goalposts!Your dishonesty is, once again, becoming tiring. Had Hillary used a government server the investigation would be exactly the same. Why? Because classified info (classified prior or after the fact) on non secured systems is an issue regardless. You continue time and time again to ignore this fact.
Wait - so the "FBI acknowledges that Clinton and her server are included within the scope of their investigation", but you want Blanky to "cite an actual FBI source stating they are investigating her server"?Yes, and it matches what I said. The FBI acknowledges that Clinton and her server are included within the scope of their investigation. If you read Baker's very next sentence, however, he said:
"The FBI has not, however, publicly acknowledged the specific focus, scope, or potential targets of any such proceedings."
Yeah, I figured that was way too complex for your simple mind to grasp. You're more of a "See Spot run" sort of intellect. Or you're lying again.Wait - so the "FBI acknowledges that Clinton and her server are included within the scope of their investigation", but you want Blanky to "cite an actual FBI source stating they are investigating her server"?
I have never spoken with an electron, but I am fairly certain that you are their god.
Never fear. It will sink in once Fox finally reports it.Your dishonesty is, once again, becoming tiring. Had Hillary used a government server the investigation would be exactly the same. Why? Because classified info (classified prior or after the fact) on non secured systems is an issue regardless. You continue time and time again to ignore this fact.
You have to be the dumbest person I have seen post in P&N yet. It boggles the mind how people like you think. No common sense once so ever. Do you even stay current with the news? General Petraeus had a notepad in his desk drawer. Hillary? She had a massive amount of classified E-mails on her own private server of which are so secret that not even the damn FBI can read them. Never mind the second part of the investigation into the Clinton fund BS.