Hillary May Be Charged Within 60 Days

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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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I think it's so sad that a certain group of conservatives (So Called) are spending all of their time digging for nothing.

--Bill Clinton is a rapist and should go to jail.
--Obama is not a citizen and shouldn't be president
--Obama is going to take away our guns
--Hillary caused the death of our ambassador in Bengazi
--Hillary shared Classified data in email

Blah, Blah, Blah.

Why don't they talk about:

The true inequities of society and how the government can help to fix them.
The rise in power of big business and it's power to manipulate the press, and markets
The need to better healthcare and controlled costs
how we can make the country better for everyone
How we fix our aging infrastructure...

etc....

It called distraction.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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I often wonder how much Intel was obtained by the Chinese and Russians. No way that E-mail server was secured enough to prevent a hack.

From a guy who used to sell tech products to some government sponsored and government groups I'd bet the the private server was more secure. People always assume the Government does the best of everything but its quite the opposite. Government is far more budget concerned than productivity or value concerned.
 

emperus

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You have to be the dumbest person I have seen post in P&N yet. It boggles the mind how people like you think. No common sense once so ever. Do you even stay current with the news? General Petraeus had a notepad in his desk drawer. Hillary? She had a massive amount of classified E-mails on her own private server of which are so secret that not even the damn FBI can read them. Never mind the second part of the investigation into the Clinton fund BS.

Don't think it was just a notepad in a desk drawer.

Petraeus provided Broadwell access to his “Black Books,” which contained Petraeus' notes, including highly classified material from his command in Afghanistan, according to charging documents in the case.

“A total of eight such books ... contained classified information regarding the identities of covert officers, war strategy, intelligence capabilities and mechanisms, diplomatic discussion, quotes and deliberative discussion from high-level National Security Council meetings, and defendant David Howell Petraeus’s discussions with the president of the United States of America," the documents said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cia-head-david-petraeus-plead-guilty/story?id=29340487
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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You have to be the dumbest person I have seen post in P&N yet. It boggles the mind how people like you think. No common sense once so ever. Do you even stay current with the news? General Petraeus had a notepad in his desk drawer. Hillary? She had a massive amount of classified E-mails on her own private server of which are so secret that not even the damn FBI can read them. Never mind the second part of the investigation into the Clinton fund BS.

Excuse me but wasn't Petraeus giving classified material to the chick he was banging?
 

fskimospy

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You have to be the dumbest person I have seen post in P&N yet. It boggles the mind how people like you think. No common sense once so ever. Do you even stay current with the news? General Petraeus had a notepad in his desk drawer. Hillary? She had a massive amount of classified E-mails on her own private server of which are so secret that not even the damn FBI can read them. Never mind the second part of the investigation into the Clinton fund BS.

It's abundantly clear to me that you don't stay current with the news.

General Petraeus purposefully and knowingly disclosed classified information to his mistress. A 'notepad in his desk drawer'? Hardly. There is zero evidence that Hillary knowingly disclosed a single piece of classified information to someone not cleared for it. How would you not know these basic facts.

You should probably make sure that when trying to call someone stupid you haven't just said something incredibly stupid yourself. I mean don't you feel at least a little dumb now?
 

thraashman

Lifer
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Don't think it was just a notepad in a desk drawer.

From a guy who used to sell tech products to some government sponsored and government groups I'd bet the the private server was more secure. People always assume the Government does the best of everything but its quite the opposite. Government is far more budget concerned than productivity or value concerned.

Excuse me but wasn't Petraeus giving classified material to the chick he was banging?

You guys realize you're trying to use reason with the most unreasonable person in P&N, right? Simply put, reality is not something he has almost any experience interacting with, so using things that exist in reality to argue with him will be no good. You'd be better off explaining how space aliens will protect Hillary.
 

trenchfoot

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I will be glad when she's been elected and served her 2 terms and it's all done. Maybe the Republicans will finally stop investigating her then? 30 or 35 years of investigations should be enough for anyone.

I look at it this way: If Bush and Cheney can get away with the multitude of heinous world-changing crimes against humanity that they conspired and perpetrated over a period of eight tragic and insufferable years, then there is not a single thing Hillary should be worried about.
 

echo4747

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On my drive in to work today,I happened to change the radio station to news radio. They were talking about Hillary and FBI. I admit that I didn't he the full newstory but the part I did hear was some consultant/guest say that since this fellow who was in charge of Clintons server was given immunity, he thinks, that a grand jury has already been impaneled. He said something to the effect that he has never seen anyone granted immunity under FBI investigation not have a grand jury already impaneled.
 

soundforbjt

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On my drive in to work today,I happened to change the radio station to news radio. They were talking about Hillary and FBI. I admit that I didn't he the full newstory but the part I did hear was some consultant/guest say that since this fellow who was in charge of Clintons server was given immunity, he thinks, that a grand jury has already been impaneled. He said something to the effect that he has never seen anyone granted immunity under FBI investigation not have a grand jury already impaneled.

Must have been Ghouliani, he was spreading the same BS on OReally last night.
 

Jhhnn

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On my drive in to work today,I happened to change the radio station to news radio. They were talking about Hillary and FBI. I admit that I didn't he the full newstory but the part I did hear was some consultant/guest say that since this fellow who was in charge of Clintons server was given immunity, he thinks, that a grand jury has already been impaneled. He said something to the effect that he has never seen anyone granted immunity under FBI investigation not have a grand jury already impaneled.

Yep. There's a yuuge pile of bullshit speculation & innuendo presented as truth out there. That's all that Repub scandal scams ever are, unless they just get lucky. The basic purpose is simply to tear down the opposition.

News infotainment radio? Music is a lot better for your brain.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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I look at it this way: If Bush and Cheney can get away with the multitude of heinous world-changing crimes against humanity that they conspired and perpetrated over a period of eight tragic and insufferable years, then there is not a single thing Hillary should be worried about.

Pretty amazing really, how people can compartmentalize their moral compasses.
 

Jhhnn

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I look at it this way: If Bush and Cheney can get away with the multitude of heinous world-changing crimes against humanity that they conspired and perpetrated over a period of eight tragic and insufferable years, then there is not a single thing Hillary should be worried about.

America is not yet willing to admit that the country was made complicit by an astounding propaganda campaign. We like to think we're smarter than that even when we haven't been.
 

Jhhnn

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Maybe diGenova meant 60 working days, right? Or Venus days, which last 5832 hours.
 
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On my drive in to work today,I happened to change the radio station to news radio. They were talking about Hillary and FBI. I admit that I didn't he the full newstory but the part I did hear was some consultant/guest say that since this fellow who was in charge of Clintons server was given immunity, he thinks, that a grand jury has already been impaneled. He said something to the effect that he has never seen anyone granted immunity under FBI investigation not have a grand jury already impaneled.
I'm certainly no expert, but doesn't the fact that Pagliano being granted immunity imply that a grand jury has indeed been convened?
 
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I'm certainly no expert, but doesn't the fact that Pagliano being granted immunity imply that a grand jury has indeed been convened?

Maybe or maybe the FBI doesn't want to become a Political football over this since an election is close. They probably assume if he broke the law they wouldn't be interested in prosecuting and giving immunity will speed up the investigation.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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I have to be the dumbest person I have seen post in P&N yet. It boggles the mind how people like I think. No common sense once so ever.

Ftfy. Stop drinking, huffing paint, or whatever it is you do. If you dont get help at Charter please get help somewhere.
 

WHAMPOM

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Let me get this straight, Hillary is accused of just receiving classifed materials on a private server, use of which was legal at the time of her appointment to office. Some of which were classified only after they were found to exist on that server. Tempest in a tea pot, all over again.
 

PokerGuy

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Let me get this straight, Hillary is accused of just receiving classifed materials on a private server, use of which was legal at the time of her appointment to office. Some of which were classified only after they were found to exist on that server. Tempest in a tea pot, all over again.

Uh no, you don't have it straight. Try reading through posts in this thread to understand where things stand right now.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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There are a lot of stupid people in this thread. Not because they don't think Hillary will be indicted. Which she will because they have to otherwise it'll be a gross Injustice. But it seems a lot of people think Hillary isn't guilty. General Petraeus did a far lesser crime and they threw the book at him. I call bull shit.

You have to be the dumbest person I have seen post in P&N yet. It boggles the mind how people like you think. No common sense once so ever. Do you even stay current with the news? General Petraeus had a notepad in his desk drawer. Hillary? She had a massive amount of classified E-mails on her own private server of which are so secret that not even the damn FBI can read them. Never mind the second part of the investigation into the Clinton fund BS.

This is quite another level from you, John Connor.

impressive!

:thumbsup:
 
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Let me get this straight, Hillary is accused of just receiving classifed materials on a private server, use of which was legal at the time of her appointment to office. Some of which were classified only after they were found to exist on that server. Tempest in a tea pot, all over again.
We need to tell the FBI of this heretofore unknown fact which they seem to somehow inexplicably missed. Although they haven't completed their investigation yet, I'm sure they'll be quite happy to hear of this profound revelation and agree, that all this is indeed...just a tempest in a teapot.
 

Blanky

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As I said two months ago, don't hold your breath. Gov doesn't play by the same rules.

The fact that the FBI has confirmed they are investigating her server and that they've given immunity to the guy who set it up is certainly very bad news, but hillary is a greased pig and they are hard to catch.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
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As I said two months ago, don't hold your breath. Gov doesn't play by the same rules.

The fact that the FBI has confirmed they are investigating her server and that they've given immunity to the guy who set it up is certainly very bad news, but hillary is a greased pig and they are hard to catch.

This.

There could be any number of reasons why they granted immunity to that guy, but it certainly does make it likely that they think criminal activity has occurred. That blows the whole "oh, it's just right wingers on a wild goose chase" out the window, but it doesn't tell us anything about who they think was involved in that criminal activity.
 

Blanky

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This.

There could be any number of reasons why they granted immunity to that guy, but it certainly does make it likely that they think criminal activity has occurred. That blows the whole "oh, it's just right wingers on a wild goose chase" out the window, but it doesn't tell us anything about who they think was involved in that criminal activity.
The reason we know it's more than angry right wingers like bengazi is precisely because the FBI is investigating, has specifically confirmed they are, and their director says he's very close to it.

I do wonder how she can reconcile this "oh, it was just an overaggressive retroactive classification, no big thang!" with all the manhowers the FBI is throwing.

What will truly be interesting is if the FBI calls her in because she then has two choices:

1) Lawyer up and lips shut, which makes her look ultra guilty during an election over what she says is a non-issue

2) Be candid, which if they've asked her in will probably be her admitting guilt, and again that makes her look ultra guilty.

But to be sure I entertain no such illusions that these fantasies will come to fruition. This is more than likely to peter out. Gotta keep expectations in check.
 
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