Why?
Trump runs his mouth constantly and gets in everyones face. Obviously thats the key to winning.
Who?
The electoral college has allowed minority rule twice in the last 16 years. It's time to go.
Is it pathetic before or after Trump called the electoral college a "disaster"??Pathetic...absolutely pathetic...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/polit...son-cooper-electoral-college-cnntv/index.html
Why?
The whole deal stinks. It's wrong, unfair and undemocratic. The central element of democracy is elections. Why, oh why, should the supposed "party of the people" reserve nearly one-thirds of their delegates for a select group of individuals who don't have to stand for election? The only people who should be called superdelegates and not have to be elected should be past nominees for president or vice president. That's it! They and they alone deserve that singular honor and distinction.
This "House of Lords" category within the Democratic Party is unjustifiable and cannot be defended. For the 2020 convention, the process of eliminating this elitist exercise and exclusionary result should immediately begin. At the 2020 Democratic Party convention, no one (except past party nominees) should be accorded super status. That's what, I repeat, democracy is all about. The Democratic Party should practice what it preaches.
Agreed however:
1. She represents the old guard if you want to be a little magnanimous about it. If you want to speak plainly she is likely as corrupt and guilty of illegal shit as the GOP folks claim. As Trump would put it, she is part of the swamp.
2. She is poisonous to the brand actual guilt not withstanding and I personally loooooooaaath her. A lightning rod and a distraction. Be gone.
3. Bernie. The right wants to burn the world down with hate, I'd rather drown it to death with looooove. I agree that the time for revolution is here; I am just hoping it's like Marlo said:
1 person 1 vote for the president.
Not 1 Montana Vote, 0.7 California Votes for president.
The electoral college has allowed minority rule twice in the last 16 years. It's time to go.
The political minority doesn't need special treatment. They should pull themselves up by their bootstraps like the rest of us if they want to win the vote.
Yes let's speak plainly. Please put forth the evidence you have that she is likely corrupt and guilty. When you do, you'll realize that claim isnbullshit.
Man was Clinton right in her book, the irrational hatred of her makes absolutely no sense.
Clinton failed where many Democrats fail. Protecting her brand/reputation
Imagine if I worked with you and talked shit about you every single day at some point people are going to believe that shit if you never fire back.
I know it sucks but that is the reality.
She fired back constantly, but I don't think that mattered as it's asymmetric warfare. People who tend to vote for Democratic candidates care about that sort of thing and people who tend to vote for Republicans don't. Trump was obviously, comically guilty of everything Republicans said they hated about Clinton but that didn't stop them from voting for him for a second. It's about tribal identity and almost nothing else.
My opinion is she fired back but in a Wellesley College I'm smarter than you and I know it snotty way. She lacked the social skills of Bill.
This is a failing of many Democrats over the decades.
Why did you include Obama in that list? He was competitively charismatic, up there with Bill.
Do you think this is more likely the failing of basically every single prominent democrat going back decades or do you think this is symptomatic if a fundamental difference in how the two parties operate? Remember, Bill Clinton is still widely derided for how he fought back decades later.
Even excluding Bill it's either the fault of Hillary Clinton, Obama, Kerry, Gore, Dukakis, Mondale, and Carter, not to mention countless hundreds of congressional Democrats, or it's something else.
Edit: I find the argument that all Democrats need to do is act like Republicans to be unpersuasive. I can't think of any successful Democrats in recent memory that have worked in that way.
No I'm tired of years of this discussion it's part following when they go low we go high. That has never worked in my life, I suspect it's never worked in your life. That is the reason they go low.
Yes the previously mentioned guys all had the stink of I'm smarter than you & I know it. Except maybe Carter or Mondale, I was pretty young then. Obama managed to pull a Bill Clinton and own the insults, he didn't hide from the press, he didn't drive around in a prententuos scooby van. Hillary is not good with words that is why she followed carefully prepared speeches and comments. Her candidacy was run by committee, just look at the huge party goals from the DNC that summer. They have been posted here before, do you know of anyone who followed such a complicated plan and had success?
Democrats need to be better at protecting their reputations it's a fault we all have.
The original reason Bill was called bubba is it was supposed to be an insult, he's a country bumpkin but Bill turned it around and owned it. Hillary needed to do something similar
It has not only worked, it's worked twice out of the last three presidential elections. Obama was smeared from all sides as a traitorous Muslim, an angry black man, etc, etc. A never ending torrent of toxic racism. (From the right that, remember, is totally not racist) He went high and he won.
Do you think Obama would have been more successful by say, insinuating that McCain had become a Manchurian Candidate in Vietnam or maybe mocked how he couldn't lift his arms up above his shoulders?
I don't know what you're referring to.
How should they go about doing this?
What exactly did she need to own? The attacks against Bill in your description were that he was a hick. The attacks against Hillary were that she was corrupt murderer who sold uranium to the Russians and cackled while people died at Benghazi. Can you explain how someone 'owns' that?
You don't really know what you're talking about, do you?I don't have to...the founding fathers of this country have already done that...they have also provided a way to change it also which requires 3/4 of the states to ratify it...good luck with the smaller states on that one....
Very different discussion, and I'm not as sure about it as I am about the anachronistic EC, but certainly a discussion worth having.Shouldn't Democratic Party's super delegates go too?
What exactly did she need to own? The attacks against Bill in your description were that he was a hick. The attacks against Hillary were that she was corrupt murderer who sold uranium to the Russians and cackled while people died at Benghazi. Can you explain how someone 'owns' that?
I think it would take a Constitutional crisis or civil war to get rid of the EC. Big states would have to force the issue, or small states aren't going to give it up. There is some wisdom to EC though, because it is not entirely healthy to have the government be responsive to a handful of media markets. Also it's not like the small states are ripping some massive benefits from the EC. Trump states are primarily losers in the competitive modern world.