Hillary's "gold standard" TPP bill (remember how she lied in the debate?)

[superstition]

And, remember how she chose a pro-TPP Kaine instead of someone else, because she supposedly no longer supported gold standard bills? (Maybe she was too busy rewarding Debbie with an "honorary" position in her campaign after she was kicked out of the DNC of all places for corruption.)

It’s hard to imagine a process more antithetical to the free and open values underpinning the Internet than the backroom negotiations surrounding the TPP.

At the deal’s core is the shocking Investor State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) section, which allows corporations to sue governments in closed-door tribunals before a panel of three corporate lawyers, demanding unlimited sums of money from taxpayers to undermine laws that corporations don’t like. Like the ones that protect public health, workers rights, and free speech.

The TPP’s intellectual property chapter follows the same basic rule as the rest of the 5,000+ page text: it privileges the rights of multinational corporations to profit over the basic human rights of ordinary people. It would have forced the United States’ broken copyright system onto other countries, without requiring protections for fair use and free speech

Copyright laws have repeatedly been abused by governments, corporations, and other institutions to silence dissent and scrub legitimate political content from the Internet. The massive online uprisings against SOPA and PIPA back in 2012 are a testament to how controversial intellectual property policy is, and how dangerous it can be when poorly crafted. The very same lobbyists who pushed those resoundingly rejected bills were sitting at the table helping write the text of the TPP, while tech experts, journalists, and the general public were locked out.

Corporate-backed “trade” agreements like the TPP, and its evil stepsisters TTIP and TISA, should not be allowed to be made in secret.

By striking down the TPP we have beaten back one of the most significant threats to Internet freedom in a decade. Now we need to finish the job and make it clear that we not only reject the TPP, but the thinking behind it. Corporations should take note, and realize that they will no longer be able to turn these massive global deals into a wishlist of their most unpopular policies.

Just want to remind people what they're not getting with Trump.

 

[superstition]

Just to be clear, I think Trump is a disgrace and Pence is worse. But, we all should pause and reflect on what a great candidate Hillary was. Why not? Let's celebrate the gold standard.

 

[dank69]

It's cute that you think Trump won't suddenly declare the TPP to be the best once he gets some of his pet projects out of the way.

 

[superstition]

It's cute that you think Trump won't suddenly declare the TPP to be the best once he gets some of his pet projects out of the way.

It's cute that he isn't the one who said it's his gold standard and then lied in front of millions of people by saying he never said that. But, thanks for your crystal ball prediction. It definitely trumps what someone actually already did.

 

[dank69]

It's cute that he isn't the one who said it's his gold standard and then lied in front of millions of people by saying he never said that. But, thanks for your crystal ball prediction. It definitely trumps what someone actually already did.

How about you try being honest about Clinton's statements? She said an early version was gold standard and then opposed the final version. When did she deny calling an early version gold standard? Source?

 

[ivwshane]

It's cute that he isn't the one who said it's his gold standard and then lied in front of millions of people by saying he never said that. But, thanks for your crystal ball prediction. It definitely trumps what someone actually already did.

She lost, get over it.

 

[Bitek]

What is that confused mess of an OP?

I came in here thinking it was about Tillerson announcing he supported TPP in his hearing yesterday and to not kid yourself that the establishment is not lined up for it.

But alas, we are stuck on an election that has been over for months.


Campaign is over, time to govern. Act like it.

 

[brycejones]

OP knows there was an election and Hillary lost right?

BTW one thing we are getting is many Asian countries falling into China's orbit because they have their own trade block that is now going forward since we bailed on the TPP.

 

[1prophet]

How about you try being honest about Clinton's statements? She said an early version was gold standard and then opposed the final version. When did she deny calling an early version gold standard? Source?

Keep looking at her through rose colored glasses, history says otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTtizmetQMY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6f4tZFZ_-g

 

[HomerJS]

Hey OP you guys won get over it. I think you realize what kind of man-child you voted for and this is a diversion

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Dems imploded and the only thing that remains to be seen is if they will change or keep doing the wrong things harder. This is now about what Trump does. Yes the partisans will be bitter on the Dem side but it does not matter what they snipe at. It's now Trump's time in the sun and we'll see what happens for good or ill.

 

[senseamp]

Protectionism got us the Great Depression and a World War. Free trade got us high quality fuel efficient cars and great affordable electronics and consumer goods.
I'll stick with free trade. It's a big net positive benefit. Just because the US is too stupid to tax and redistribute the benefits of trade, doesn't mean that trade treaties shouldn't maximize those benefits.

 

[pauldun170]

What is that confused mess of an OP?

I came in here thinking it was about Tillerson announcing he supported TPP in his hearing yesterday

During his day-long testimony, Tillerson repeatedly broke with his future boss on key foreign policy issues, backing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, denouncing Russian aggression in Ukraine, and affirming his belief in climate change.
Tillerson said he wasn't against TPP, a massive trade pact that Trump condemned as he made staunch opposition to free trade deals a centerpiece of his presidential campaign.
"I do not oppose" TPP, Tillerson told the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. "I share some of (Trump's) views regarding whether the agreement that was negotiated serves all of America's interests the best."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/11/politics/tillerson-confirmation-hearing/

 

[ElFenix]

repost

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...partnership-free-trade-agreement-now.2407051/

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/it-looks-like-the-tpp-has-passed.2450294/

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...folk-regarding-tpp-what-do-you-think.2479693/

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...hing-good-he-wont-fast-track-the-tpp.2366681/

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-trade-treaty-gop-president-favor-it.2379941/

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/the-corporate-ownership-is-strong-with-this-one.2430726/

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...iracy-theorist-card-on-tpp-oposition.2381580/

 

[First]

When will people stop parroting the Investor State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) section, that shit has been around for over 2 decades. Can anyone point to disastrous results from corporations suing gov't using ISDS? No? Then STFU.

Alt-left has some true retards.

 

[Indus]

I'm a Bernie Sanders guy and I think the best thing Trump can do for 4 years would be to put the Clintons in jail and absolutely NOTHING ELSE.

 

[ivwshane]

I'm a Bernie Sanders guy and I think the best thing Trump can do for 4 years would be to put the Clintons in jail and absolutely NOTHING ELSE.

You could have left out the first part of your post as it was a given when you made your other statement.

Rabid Bernie supporters = the trump supporters for the left, dumb as shit.

 

[superstition]

She lost, get over it.

Reading comprehension failure. Trolling attempt failure. As always with your posts. Why do you continue to try when you always fail?

What is that confused mess of an OP? I came in here thinking it was about Tillerson announcing he supported TPP in his hearing yesterday and to not kid yourself that the establishment is not lined up for it. But alas, we are stuck on an election that has been over for months. Campaign is over, time to govern. Act like it

The only confusion is your post where you're arguing with yourself.

assertion a: This topic isn't relevant
assertion b: It's really relevant and I am hoping to discuss it
so: I discussed it
and: I bashed the OP for bringing it up

Yawn.

I'm not anyone's mommy here. If you guys can't figure out how to parse the topic relevantly then move on.

to not kid yourself that the establishment is not lined up for it

I guess I need to spell everything in big capital letters from now on.

If people would be less desperate to attack they might be able to figure out what others are saying. I know that's a lot to ask for.

 

[dank69]

I'm a Bernie Sanders guy and I think the best thing Trump can do for 4 years would be to put the Clintons in jail and absolutely NOTHING ELSE.

On what charges?

 

[Bitek]

You could have left out the first part of your post as it was a given when you made your other statement.

Rabid Bernie supporters = the trump supporters for the left, dumb as shit.

Dear God, the BernieBros.

Save us all if we have them on the left and Trump and the tea party on the right...

 

[Londo_Jowo]

On what charges?

Being Clintons?

 

[Indus]

You could have left out the first part of your post as it was a given when you made your other statement.

Rabid Bernie supporters = the trump supporters for the left, dumb as shit.

You're entitled to your opinion but I did vote for her and justified it as a lesser of 2 evils but I did not like her. Apparently that 2.9 million more votes she had still couldn't make her win.

Dear God, the BernieBros.

Save us all if we have them on the left and Trump and the tea party on the right...

No one's gonna save us. We're gonna get fucked over these next 4-8 years either by corruption or facism.

And we deserve it for making her our nominee.. when anyone else who could have gotten through to the people would have won.

 

[ivwshane]

You're entitled to your opinion but I did vote for her and justified it as a lesser of 2 evils but I did not like her. Apparently that 2.9 million more votes she had still couldn't make her win.



No one's gonna save us. We're gonna get fucked over these next 4-8 years either by corruption or facism.

And we deserve it for making her our nominee.. when anyone else who could have gotten through to the people would have won.

Of course as evident by the millions of people who didn't vote for any other candidate but her in the primary. So yeah, anyone else could have won! /s

Like I said, dumb as shit!

 

[ivwshane]

Reading comprehension failure. Trolling attempt failure. As always with your posts. Why do you continue to try when you always fail?


The only confusion is your post where you're arguing with yourself.

assertion a: This topic isn't relevant
assertion b: It's really relevant and I am hoping to discuss it
so: I discussed it
and: I bashed the OP for bringing it up

Yawn.

I'm not anyone's mommy here. If you guys can't figure out how to parse the topic relevantly then move on.


I guess I need to spell everything in big capital letters from now on.

If people would be less desperate to attack they might be able to figure out what others are saying. I know that's a lot to ask for.

Troll harder troll.

 

[Brainonska511]

Of course as evident by the millions of people who didn't vote for any other candidate but her in the primary. So yeah, anyone else could have won! /s

Like I said, dumb as shit!

Some people believe the country is more progressive than it really is. They can't even get very progressive governors in so-called progressive states elected. Why they think one would be electable on the national stage is a mystery.