HiSilicon Kirin 950 GeekBench

[Hans de Vries]

The Huawei Mate 8 smartphone launched with HiSilicon's Kirin 950
with quad A72 + quad A53

The Integer single thread performance looks quite good, Floating Point
is a bit less, also LPDDR3 drags down the score. Multiprocessing scores
however beat absolutely everything here. (Fast browsing in Chrome)

Against Apple A9 in iPhone plus 6s
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4317050?baseline=4315924

Against Intel Skylake core-m3 in ASUS 13.3" ultrabook
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4292325?baseline=4315924

Against Intel quad core Sophia x3-C3230 in cheap 7" Tablet
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4207272?baseline=4315924

Hans

 

[Nothingness]

ST performance is similar to the Mediatek found in Amazon Fire TV.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/3763590?baseline=4315924

A72 definitely is a nice CPU

 

[Hans de Vries]

ST performance is similar to the Mediatek found in Amazon Fire TV.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/3763590?baseline=4315924

A72 definitely is a nice CPU

The A72 seems to run @ 2.15 GHz on average during the benchmark if we
assume that the Amazon Fire TV's A72 runs at the advertised 2.0 GHz.

 

[Arachnotronic]

And for a clock-for-clock comparison of Twister with A72, here's Kirin 950 v.s. A9X:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4317119?baseline=4315924

Twister is a hell of a CPU core.

 

[raghu78]

And for a clock-for-clock comparison of Twister with A72, here's Kirin 950 v.s. A9X:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4317119?baseline=4315924

Twister is a hell of a CPU core.

Agreed. Apple just needs to add SMT in A10/A10X to make multithread performance class leading.

 

[dark zero]

Seems that Core M is slowly losing terrain... And Intel SoFia is a MASSIVE dissaster.... With the new lowest A53 core, they have nothing to do. At MIPS processors levels I think...

 

[Andrei.]

It has LPDDR4, not 3.

 

[krumme]

It has LPDDR4, not 3.

Why is mem score low?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Why is mem score low?

Crappy memory controller?

 

[krumme]

Crappy memory controller?

Yeaa. Probably. Its their own design.
http://anandtech.com/show/9762/hisilicon-announces-kirin-950-huawei

Still only 8 mm2 for the big cpu cluster. 8mm2....

Shows where the world is heading

 

[krumme]

Imo what this phone needs is just a new sticker. Put a Apple label on it and it would sell better than 6s+

Could have gone for some dirt cheap 28nm and lower freq and no one would notice.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9818/huawei-launches-the-mate-8-kirin-950

 

[krumme]

Btw. Wellcome China to the cpu highend ! Great

 

[Andrei.]

Why is mem score low?

Crappy memory controller?

CPU data goes:

Core -> L2 -> CCI400 -> NoC Fabric -> Memory Controller -> DRAM

Anything beyond the core can be a bottleneck and depends on implementation.

 

[Nothingness]

Crappy memory controller?

Isn't width also twice as large on A9X?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Isn't width also twice as large on A9X?

Even the A9 scores better in the memory test, which may indicate a better quality memory controller in the Apple chip than in the HiSilicon part.

 

[Andrei.]

Even the A9 scores better in the memory test, which may indicate a better quality memory controller in the Apple chip than in the HiSilicon part.

Apples scores better because of CPU arch being able to make use of the bandwidth, not because of anything else in the chain.

 

[krumme]

CPU data goes:

Core -> L2 -> CCI400 -> NoC Fabric -> Memory Controller -> DRAM

Anything beyond the core can be a bottleneck and depends on implementation.

Ok
Does the low mem score actually matter - eg for surfing?
Is there one place in the chain you suspect its perhaps more weak in regards to memory?

 

[Burpo]

Just had conversation with my hardware guy.. He had this to say..

F*ck the nxt.
It's a fire prone pocket cooker.
ARM Hisilicon @ 1.80 GHz
Chinese arm 11 with emulated cortex a72 instructions. Bah.

This is what's coming..
Nexus 9p tablet, And a Xiaomi phone..
Tegra X1, 256GB emmc, 8gb ram.
10w TDP, Standby is .04 watt.
Big little implementation, 5 cores. Nvidia Maxwell gpu, 0 instruction switch to streaming cores... 256 streaming cores, 1024 bit wide barrel adders, 512 io regs, 1TFLOP in 128 bit mode, at 64 bit, 1.9TFLOP, in 32 bit mode, 3.98 TFLOP. 10 watts.
Intel is shitting their pants.

Verizon variant is at fcc now.
Att variant is in the wild.

 

[Exophase]

Just had conversation with my hardware guy.. He had this to say..

F*ck the nxt.
It's a fire prone pocket cooker.
ARM Hisilicon @ 1.80 GHz
Chinese arm 11 with emulated cortex a72 instructions. Bah.

This is what's coming..
Nexus 9p tablet, And a Xiaomi phone..
Tegra X1, 256GB emmc, 8gb ram.
10w TDP, Standby is .04 watt.
Big little implementation, 5 cores. Nvidia Maxwell gpu, 0 instruction switch to streaming cores... 256 streaming cores, 1024 bit wide barrel adders, 512 io regs, 1TFLOP in 128 bit mode, at 64 bit, 1.9TFLOP, in 32 bit mode, 3.98 TFLOP. 10 watts.
Intel is shitting their pants.

Verizon variant is at fcc now.
Att variant is in the wild.

I don't know what capacity he's a "hardware guy" in but pretty much everything he's saying here seems pretty clueless.

 

[Burpo]

I don't know "

- Agreed.

everything he's saying here seems pretty clueless.

Your post "seems" pretty vague.. He actually works in hardware in Silicon Valley, so I'm gonna go with his insight on this.

Thanks

 

[Exophase]

- Agreed.


Your post "seems" pretty vague.. He actually works in hardware in Silicon Valley, so I'm gonna go with his insight on this.

Thanks

Hey, suit yourself. I could go over all of the ways that post makes no sense but I get the feeling it's not going to trump whatever appeal to authority "works in hardware in Silicon Valley" means to you.

 

[Nothingness]

Your post "seems" pretty vague.. He actually works in hardware in Silicon Valley, so I'm gonna go with his insight on this.

Just a hint:

Just had conversation with my hardware guy.. He had this to say..
(...)
Tegra X1, 256GB emmc, 8gb ram.
10w TDP, Standby is .04 watt.
Big little implementation, 5 cores.

Your buddy is clueless.

 

[simboss]

Hey, suit yourself. I could go over all of the ways that post makes no sense but I get the feeling it's not going to trump whatever appeal to authority "works in hardware in Silicon Valley" means to you.

I can give a few name of people who "works in hardware in Silicon Valley" who I would not trust to give judgement on anything (not even specifically on SoCs ())