Hitler and the Religious Right

[Genx87]

This thread has it all.

So does the OP believe this religous faction of the Republican party is going to suspend our constitution and erect a national socialist state? If so when? Maybe he hasnt been paying attention to the polls.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Fern
Godwin's Law invoke in a thread title?

You're f'n kidding me?

Fern

All mention and comparison to Hitler or Nazis isn't a violation of Godwin's Law. It isn't applicable when the analogy is valid. While what is valid, involves some subjectivity on the reader's part, the OP provides a quote that reads to me, as a legitimate basis for an observation and/or discussion.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Fern
Godwin's Law invoke in a thread title?

You're f'n kidding me?

Fern

All mention and comparison to Hitler or Nazis isn't a violation of Godwin's Law. It isn't applicable when the analogy is valid. While what is valid, involves some subjectivity on the reader's part, the OP provides a quote that reads to me, as a legitimate basis for an observation and/or discussion.

Are you freakin kidding me?

The quote the OP provides is from a Hitler speech (if their attribution is to be believed, I note there is NO link to verify if true/accurate).

So a quote from Hitler itself justifies mentioning Hitler? Is this not the very definition of circular logic (and I use the latter term quite loosely).

Otherwise, "culture war" is deserving of a Hiltlerian reference?

Or "following God"? So, religion is now equated with Hitler?

Or opposition to gay marriage? BTW: All candidates (both Prez and VP) have publically announced that they do not support gay marriage, are we to believe that they are Hitler-like?

Do you know who he was?

Good lord man, did you read the OP's post, or are you crazy?

Fern

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

And as to the op - do you actually have a link for this or did you just want to create a GOP=hitler thread?

Hello?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Fern
Godwin's Law invoke in a thread title?

You're f'n kidding me?

Fern

All mention and comparison to Hitler or Nazis isn't a violation of Godwin's Law. It isn't applicable when the analogy is valid. While what is valid, involves some subjectivity on the reader's part, the OP provides a quote that reads to me, as a legitimate basis for an observation and/or discussion.

Are you freakin kidding me?

The quote the OP provides is from a Hitler speech (if their attribution is to be believed, I note there is NO link to verify if true/accurate).

So a quote from Hitler itself justifies mentioning Hitler? Is this not the very definition of circular logic (and I use the latter term quite loosely).

Otherwise, "culture war" is deserving of a Hiltlerian reference?

Or "following God"? So, religion is now equated with Hitler?

Or opposition to gay marriage? BTW: All candidates (both Prez and VP) have publically announced that they do not support gay marriage, are we to believe that they are Hitler-like?

Do you know who he was?

Good lord man, did you read the OP's post, or are you crazy?

Fern

It is all a matter of perspective, while that is what you interpret, What I see, is a classic Third Reich Propaganda tactic. One that fits the OP's scenario very well.

If the quote should prove to be inaccurate, or falsely attributed, I'll change my stance, I have no problem with admitting mistakes or ignorance. I have seen no evidence to the contrary, and will extend the OP the respect of not questioning their integrity, until I have some cause to do so.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

And as to the op - do you actually have a link for this or did you just want to create a GOP=hitler thread?

Hello?

I was wondering the same thing....

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I found the OP's quote, and others about being Christian, even using Jesus Christ as propaganda against the Jews Adolf Hitler Wiki Quotes

 

[Kirby]

Let me know when the "religious right" start to cremate millions of liberals and gays. :disgust:

I think it's pretty fucking disgusting to compare the GOP/religious with a group that killed millions because of people for being minorities.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Small minds have difficultly getting past the sterotyped caricatures they've created in their tiny brains to self-justify a hatred and bigotry of others who think differently than them.

It's become very clear in recent years that hate and biogtry is now socially acceptable if directed at Christians. And it's Christians who get stereotyped as all being hateful bigots...how ironic.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I found the OP's quote, and others about being Christian, even using Jesus Christ as propaganda against the Jews Adolf Hitler Wiki Quotes

There are plenty of quotes from Hitler that falls right in line with the democrats platform about business and labor. Should we make a thread that equates the left of the democrat party with Hitler?

These threads where Hitler is invoked in some emotional plea always fail. There is a time and place for discussing Hitler and his National Socialist party. But trying to compare the religious right with Hitler is pretty dumb. Outside of desiring a strong family core and disliking homosexuality(and that is actually debated at times due to a high prevelence of gays in the SA and SS) what does the religious right have in common with Hitler?

Desire for a racially pure state?
Desire to eradicate our neighbors due to being genetically inferior?
Desire to erect concentration camps to house millions of their fellow citizens who dont fall in line with the state politically or genetically?
Command and control economy?
Suppressions of liberal freedoms such as speech, press, or expression?
Totalitarian police state?

I am sure there are nutjobs out there that may hold the above feelings but as a whole the religious right does not. Trying to infer they do is insulting.

And Hitler for all his rhetoric didnt particularily care for the church, felt it was in his way of his idelogy and remarked he wished he lived in the a middle eastern nation with a Muslim faith that is more open to his racial purity policies.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Small minds have difficultly getting past the sterotyped caricatures they've created in their tiny brains to self-justify a hatred and bigotry of others who think differently than them.

It's become very clear in recent years that hate and biogtry is now socially acceptable if directed at Christians. And it's Christians who get stereotyped as all being hateful bigots...how ironic.

Or, perhaps, for some of us, it has nothing to do with that. And, it is just an observation about how religion can be used as a very effective propaganda tool, Even to sway good hearted, Christian folk, to support a cause, because it proclaims to be based upon all they believe in. That doesn't make Christians wrong or bad, most of us are susceptible to some degree of manipulation, when appealed to properly.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I found the OP's quote, and others about being Christian, even using Jesus Christ as propaganda against the Jews Adolf Hitler Wiki Quotes

There are plenty of quotes from Hitler that falls right in line with the democrats platform about business and labor. Should we make a thread that equates the left of the democrat party with Hitler?

.

I certainly have no issue with that. I'm interested to read the correlations between them.

And Hitler for all his rhetoric didnt particularily care for the church, felt it was in his way of his idelogy and remarked he wished he lived in the a middle eastern nation with a Muslim faith that is more open to his racial purity policies.

And yet he invoked christianity often during his rise to power, it would seem. Again, I approached this discussion from a propaganda angle, I personally intend no insult to anyone, but I am unable to prevent others from taking exception to my comments, should they choose do so.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Small minds have difficultly getting past the sterotyped caricatures they've created in their tiny brains to self-justify a hatred and bigotry of others who think differently than them.

It's become very clear in recent years that hate and biogtry is now socially acceptable if directed at Christians. And it's Christians who get stereotyped as all being hateful bigots...how ironic.

Or, perhaps, for some of us, it has nothing to do with that. And, it is just an observation about how religion can be used as a very effective propaganda tool, Even to sway good hearted, Christian folk, to support a cause, because it proclaims to be based upon all they believe in. That doesn't make Christians wrong or bad, most of us are susceptible to some degree of manipulation, when appealed to properly.

Totally agree with you...but please don't single out Christians as being the only ones susceptible to some degree of manipulation...regardless of our religious, sexual, political, etc. preferences, we're all human beings and we're all surrounded by "well meaning" people who want to manipulate us to further their agendas. Unfortunately the world is full of sheep.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Napalm
"Today Christians ? stand at the head of [this country]? I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ? We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the *poison of immorality* which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of *liberal excess* during the past ? (few) years."

That sounds like a speech you'd hear at a Palin rally! Scary stuff . . .

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Genx87
This thread has it all.

So does the OP believe this religous faction of the Republican party is going to suspend our constitution and erect a national socialist state? If so when? Maybe he hasnt been paying attention to the polls.

You must have a short memory. Or a selective memory.
That happened with the first signing statement and invocation of executive privilege.
:lips:And happy secret surveillance to you too!:heart:

 

[event8horizon]

he could have just been appealing to the masses with his christianity talk. the nazi's had very occult roots.

nazis : the occult conspiracy part 1
http://video.google.com/videop...KQ5ODpDg&q=nazi+occult

part 2
http://video.google.com/videop...KQ5ODpDg&q=nazi+occult

then one has to wonder about the Thule society as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_society
The Thule Society (German: Thule-Gesellschaft), originally the Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum 'Study Group for Germanic Antiquity', was a German occultist and völkisch group in Munich, named after a mythical northern country from Greek legend. The Society is notable chiefly as the organization that sponsored the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which was later transformed by Adolf Hitler into the Nazi Party. Hitler, however, was never a member of the Thule Society,[1] in spite of allegations about his occult initiation in Nazi-occult literature.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I found the OP's quote, and others about being Christian, even using Jesus Christ as propaganda against the Jews Adolf Hitler Wiki Quotes

There are plenty of quotes from Hitler that falls right in line with the democrats platform about business and labor. Should we make a thread that equates the left of the democrat party with Hitler?

These threads where Hitler is invoked in some emotional plea always fail. There is a time and place for discussing Hitler and his National Socialist party. But trying to compare the religious right with Hitler is pretty dumb. Outside of desiring a strong family core and disliking homosexuality(and that is actually debated at times due to a high prevelence of gays in the SA and SS) what does the religious right have in common with Hitler?

Desire for a racially pure state?
Desire to eradicate our neighbors due to being genetically inferior?
Desire to erect concentration camps to house millions of their fellow citizens who dont fall in line with the state politically or genetically?
Command and control economy?
Suppressions of liberal freedoms such as speech, press, or expression?
Totalitarian police state?

I am sure there are nutjobs out there that may hold the above feelings but as a whole the religious right does not. Trying to infer they do is insulting.

And Hitler for all his rhetoric didnt particularily care for the church, felt it was in his way of his idelogy and remarked he wished he lived in the a middle eastern nation with a Muslim faith that is more open to his racial purity policies.

Desire for a religiously pure state.
Desire to eradicate their neighbors due to being religiously inferior.
Desire to erect concentration camps to indoctrinate millions of their fellow citizens forcibly into the accepted state religion.
Command and control economy in support of the accepted religion.
Suppression of religious freedom in speech, press, or expression.
Totalitarian religious police state.

All that and more, all for your own good too. Jim Jones kool aid, good for you.

 

[Nemesis 1]

This is a comedey thread right. Its not real . Tell me it isn't . The right may say things because it doesn't support the left. But thats about it.

There is no proof anywhere on earth that a true christian has ever murdered anyone. It is well documented however that christians would rather go to jail than Kill . These are facts . Tell me ! One Christian that has ever murdered anyone . You can't because its never happened. A mule can call its self a horse but its still a jackass.

Hitler = Christians . LOL. You guys are sick.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I found the OP's quote, and others about being Christian, even using Jesus Christ as propaganda against the Jews Adolf Hitler Wiki Quotes

There are plenty of quotes from Hitler that falls right in line with the democrats platform about business and labor. Should we make a thread that equates the left of the democrat party with Hitler?

These threads where Hitler is invoked in some emotional plea always fail. There is a time and place for discussing Hitler and his National Socialist party. But trying to compare the religious right with Hitler is pretty dumb. Outside of desiring a strong family core and disliking homosexuality(and that is actually debated at times due to a high prevelence of gays in the SA and SS) what does the religious right have in common with Hitler?

Desire for a racially pure state?
Desire to eradicate our neighbors due to being genetically inferior?
Desire to erect concentration camps to house millions of their fellow citizens who dont fall in line with the state politically or genetically?
Command and control economy?
Suppressions of liberal freedoms such as speech, press, or expression?
Totalitarian police state?

I am sure there are nutjobs out there that may hold the above feelings but as a whole the religious right does not. Trying to infer they do is insulting.

And Hitler for all his rhetoric didnt particularily care for the church, felt it was in his way of his idelogy and remarked he wished he lived in the a middle eastern nation with a Muslim faith that is more open to his racial purity policies.

Desire for a religiously pure state.
Desire to eradicate their neighbors due to being religiously inferior.
Desire to erect concentration camps to indoctrinate millions of their fellow citizens forcibly into the accepted state religion.
Command and control economy in support of the accepted religion.
Suppression of religious freedom in speech, press, or expression.
Totalitarian religious police state.

All that and more, all for your own good too. Jim Jones kool aid, good for you.

Yes clearly. Christians are clearly pursuing this agenda. We just can't see/prove/understand it.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: nkgreen
Let me know when the "religious right" start to cremate millions of liberals and gays. :disgust:

I think it's pretty fucking disgusting to compare the GOP/religious with a group that killed millions because of people for being minorities.

"cremate millions" is a pretty high threshold, why let it get that far. I would set it at the denial of equal rights.

 

[RightIsWrong]

I think that you can find valid comparisons to the Third Reich and any other authoritarian/egalitarian regime throughout history using religion as a common thread and propaganda as the vehicle to navigate the way to the Repubs and the Dems alike.

As has been stated before, humans are innately manipulatable and it only takes finding their trigger. The common person has always been abused in the search for power whether it be by those seeking it via political, spiritual or militarily.

The reason that the OP's comparison is valid is the same reason you were taught to study history....it always repeats itself. The leaders of today on all sides and in all nations, have merely taken what was successful in the past and altered it for the current times.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

And as to the op - do you actually have a link for this or did you just want to create a GOP=hitler thread?

Hello?

I was wondering the same thing....

I guess it's ok to post troll threads without links...

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
This is a comedey thread right. Its not real . Tell me it isn't . The right may say things because it doesn't support the left. But thats about it.

There is no proof anywhere on earth that a true christian has ever murdered anyone. It is well documented however that christians would rather go to jail than Kill . These are facts . Tell me ! One Christian that has ever murdered anyone . You can't because its never happened. A mule can call its self a horse but its still a jackass.

Hitler = Christians . LOL. You guys are sick.

Missed the Dark Ages and Inquisition? "True" christians have always murdered and tortured in defense of their hypocrisy.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I found the OP's quote, and others about being Christian, even using Jesus Christ as propaganda against the Jews Adolf Hitler Wiki Quotes

There are plenty of quotes from Hitler that falls right in line with the democrats platform about business and labor. Should we make a thread that equates the left of the democrat party with Hitler?

These threads where Hitler is invoked in some emotional plea always fail. There is a time and place for discussing Hitler and his National Socialist party. But trying to compare the religious right with Hitler is pretty dumb. Outside of desiring a strong family core and disliking homosexuality(and that is actually debated at times due to a high prevelence of gays in the SA and SS) what does the religious right have in common with Hitler?

Desire for a racially pure state?
Desire to eradicate our neighbors due to being genetically inferior?
Desire to erect concentration camps to house millions of their fellow citizens who dont fall in line with the state politically or genetically?
Command and control economy?
Suppressions of liberal freedoms such as speech, press, or expression?
Totalitarian police state?

I am sure there are nutjobs out there that may hold the above feelings but as a whole the religious right does not. Trying to infer they do is insulting.

And Hitler for all his rhetoric didnt particularily care for the church, felt it was in his way of his idelogy and remarked he wished he lived in the a middle eastern nation with a Muslim faith that is more open to his racial purity policies.

Desire for a religiously pure state.
Desire to eradicate their neighbors due to being religiously inferior.
Desire to erect concentration camps to indoctrinate millions of their fellow citizens forcibly into the accepted state religion.
Command and control economy in support of the accepted religion.
Suppression of religious freedom in speech, press, or expression.
Totalitarian religious police state.

All that and more, all for your own good too. Jim Jones kool aid, good for you.

Yes clearly. Christians are clearly pursuing this agenda. We just can't see/prove/understand it.

People using religion to gain power/money/sex just don't happen, sure there's not a few thousand examples?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

And as to the op - do you actually have a link for this or did you just want to create a GOP=hitler thread?

Hello?

I was wondering the same thing....

I guess it's ok to post troll threads without links...

That's what happens when you let someone like Harvey moderate this forum.

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