hitler vs. stalin!

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NJDevil

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
It's pretty interesting how both are reaching a hero-like status in their respective countries.

yea, those germans sure do see Hitler as a real hero. This has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read on this board, even considering the stupid crap both sides (no names here, you know who you are) spew while screaming "la la la" to any counter-argument thrown at them.

edit: If you said this to a German, they'd beat the crap out of you without thinking twice. Unlike other nations who have yet to come forward with their apologies/regrets, Germany has done so much to mend relations with the world.

I'm not sure where Stalin is, but Russians are certainly not rabid anti-communists the way most Germans are anti-nazi.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
It's pretty interesting how both are reaching a hero-like status in their respective countries.

yea, those germans sure do see Hitler as a real hero. This has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read on this board, even considering the stupid crap both sides (no names here, you know who you are) spew while screaming "la la la" to any counter-argument thrown at them.

Yes, more and more Germans continue to see Hitler as a hero. The far-right grows stronger every day in Germany. It's scary.

edit: If you said this to a German, they'd beat the crap out of you without thinking twice. Unlike other nations who have yet to come forward with their apologies/regrets, Germany has done so much to mend relations with the world.

There is more to history than WW2.

I'm not sure where Stalin is, but Russians are certainly not rabid anti-communists the way most Germans are anti-nazi.

Unfortunately, I don't feel that will be the case within 10-20 years.
 

NJDevil

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
It's pretty interesting how both are reaching a hero-like status in their respective countries.

yea, those germans sure do see Hitler as a real hero. This has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read on this board, even considering the stupid crap both sides (no names here, you know who you are) spew while screaming "la la la" to any counter-argument thrown at them.

Yes, more and more Germans continue to see Hitler as a hero. The far-right grows stronger every day in Germany. It's scary.

edit: If you said this to a German, they'd beat the crap out of you without thinking twice. Unlike other nations who have yet to come forward with their apologies/regrets, Germany has done so much to mend relations with the world.

There is more to history than WW2.

I'm not sure where Stalin is, but Russians are certainly not rabid anti-communists the way most Germans are anti-nazi.

Unfortunately, I don't feel that will be the case within 10-20 years.

To say that Hitler is reaching a hero status among Germans is plain wrong. He is reaching hero status with neo-nazi's, but that has been going on since the 40's.

I think any German here would be extremely offended by you saying, "Hitler is reaching a hero-like status in Germany."
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: NJDevil

To say that Hitler is reaching a hero status among Germans is plain wrong. He is reaching hero status with neo-nazi's, but that has been going on since the 40's.

I think any German here would be extremely offended by you saying, "Hitler is reaching a hero-like status in Germany."

So are you saying that Neo-Nazis in Germany with German citizenship are not Germans? Their population is rapidly increasing.

A German shouldn't be offended by it. Their country is being taken over by Nazis and Hitler is being increasingly viewed as a folk hero. Perhaps it will make them look at their own surroundings and realize what's happening.
 

NJDevil

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil

To say that Hitler is reaching a hero status among Germans is plain wrong. He is reaching hero status with neo-nazi's, but that has been going on since the 40's.

I think any German here would be extremely offended by you saying, "Hitler is reaching a hero-like status in Germany."

So are you saying that Neo-Nazis in Germany with German citizenship are not Germans? Their population is rapidly increasing.

A German shouldn't be offended by it. Their country is being taken over by Nazis and Hitler is being increasingly viewed as a folk hero. Perhaps it will make them look at their own surroundings and realize what's happening.

There are plenty in the US who view Hitler as a nazi. Would you be pissed off if a German asscoiated the entire US with those few?

When's the last time you've been in Germany? The swastika is banned in Germany, as are Nazi groups and they have very harsh crimes against anti-semitism, harsher than in the US for sure.

Wow, the ignorance keeps on building.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil

To say that Hitler is reaching a hero status among Germans is plain wrong. He is reaching hero status with neo-nazi's, but that has been going on since the 40's.

I think any German here would be extremely offended by you saying, "Hitler is reaching a hero-like status in Germany."

So are you saying that Neo-Nazis in Germany with German citizenship are not Germans? Their population is rapidly increasing.

A German shouldn't be offended by it. Their country is being taken over by Nazis and Hitler is being increasingly viewed as a folk hero. Perhaps it will make them look at their own surroundings and realize what's happening.

There are plenty in the US who view Hitler as a nazi. Would you be pissed off if a German asscoiated the entire US with those few?

I think everyone views Hitler as a Nazi.

No, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

When's the last time you've been in Germany? The swastika is banned in Germany, as are Nazi groups and they have very harsh crimes against anti-semitism, harsher than in the US for sure.

Hmmm.. harsh against anti-semitism and Nazi groups? Can you please explain why convicted Nazi terrorists were given suspensions and no jail time? I mean, they ONLY plotted to bomb a synagogue, massacre Jewish leaders, and assassinate German politicians in their revolution.

Wow, the ignorance keeps on building.

Yours?
 

NJDevil

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil

To say that Hitler is reaching a hero status among Germans is plain wrong. He is reaching hero status with neo-nazi's, but that has been going on since the 40's.

I think any German here would be extremely offended by you saying, "Hitler is reaching a hero-like status in Germany."

So are you saying that Neo-Nazis in Germany with German citizenship are not Germans? Their population is rapidly increasing.

A German shouldn't be offended by it. Their country is being taken over by Nazis and Hitler is being increasingly viewed as a folk hero. Perhaps it will make them look at their own surroundings and realize what's happening.

There are plenty in the US who view Hitler as a nazi. Would you be pissed off if a German asscoiated the entire US with those few?

I think everyone views Hitler as a Nazi.

No, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

When's the last time you've been in Germany? The swastika is banned in Germany, as are Nazi groups and they have very harsh crimes against anti-semitism, harsher than in the US for sure.

Hmmm.. harsh against anti-semitism and Nazi groups? Can you please explain why convicted Nazi terrorists were given suspensions and no jail time? I mean, they ONLY plotted to bomb a synagogue, massacre Jewish leaders, and assassinate German politicians in their revolution.

Wow, the ignorance keeps on building.

Yours?

I don't recall this happening, was this recent? I'm pretty sure that nothing like that would happen today, as Germans are in general very against Nazi action. What you are saying is that Germans (not a tiny minority, like the Nazis/Hitler fans really are) are viewing Hitler as a Hero?
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: NJDevil
I don't recall this happening, was this recent? I'm pretty sure that nothing like that would happen today, as Germans are in general very against Nazi action. What you are saying is that Germans (not a tiny minority, like the Nazis/Hitler fans really are) are viewing Hitler as a Hero?

I recall this happening. I recall reading the thread. I recall CanofWorms' responses in that thread. Of course that was wrong, but CanofWorms is really just looking for any excuse to label Europe as the greatest evil our world has and ever will know. He will grasp at straws at every opportunity, because that's his cause. So believe that this happened, but take everything CanofWorms says about it with a grain of salt... he's a zealot.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: NJDevil

I don't recall this happening, was this recent? I'm pretty sure that nothing like that would happen today, as Germans are in general very against Nazi action. What you are saying is that Germans (not a tiny minority, like the Nazis/Hitler fans really are) are viewing Hitler as a Hero?

I am saying that Hitler and Stalin are increasingly being viewed as heroes in their respective countries.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: NJDevil
I don't recall this happening, was this recent? I'm pretty sure that nothing like that would happen today, as Germans are in general very against Nazi action. What you are saying is that Germans (not a tiny minority, like the Nazis/Hitler fans really are) are viewing Hitler as a Hero?

I recall this happening. I recall reading the thread. I recall CanofWorms' responses in that thread. Of course that was wrong, but CanofWorms is really just looking for any excuse to label Europe as the greatest evil our world has and ever will know. He will grasp at straws at every opportunity, because that's his cause. So believe that this happened, but take everything CanofWorms says about it with a grain of salt... he's a zealot.

Yup, that basically sums it up!
 

Colt45

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CanOWorms, do you seriously believe this shite you spew? I've noticed you've been a fvcking idiot for a long time, but this is critical mass.

Germans love Hitler? WTF is wrong with you?
 

imported_Tango

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Neo-nazis get a lot of media attention because of the HUGE stupidity connaturated with their ideas, as well as the worldwide fascination with everything related to WWII dictators. But in fact they are (of course) a tiny number, with no political power at all. To say, because of this, that a whole country is going to love Hitler as an hero is quite an overstatement.
A couple of seasons ago the TIME magazine covered a story about neo-nazis in the USA. They sent the enfant-prodige photographer Platon to take pictures of them and a journalist to interview their leader. Basically it was an interesting article about a little group of uneducated country guys who liked to get nazi tatoos and drink too many beers. I thought they were weird, but I never assume their opinions as the leading ones in the USA. Neo-nazi skinheads are all around the world, and they all share the fact of beeing loosers with no political or social power. If they were allowed to run for any kind of election they wouldn't get more than 0.01% of votes in any country.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Tango
If they were allowed to run for any kind of election they wouldn't get more than 0.01% of votes in any country.

Tell that to Le Pen or the other Nazi-like politicians. The rise of Nazi powers in Germany is well documented in the media recently, especially with their surprising turnout in some German states.
 

wchou

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil

I don't recall this happening, was this recent? I'm pretty sure that nothing like that would happen today, as Germans are in general very against Nazi action. What you are saying is that Germans (not a tiny minority, like the Nazis/Hitler fans really are) are viewing Hitler as a Hero?

I am saying that Hitler and Stalin are increasingly being viewed as heroes in their respective countries.
they been dead for over a decade, who thefuckcares???
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: wchou
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil

I don't recall this happening, was this recent? I'm pretty sure that nothing like that would happen today, as Germans are in general very against Nazi action. What you are saying is that Germans (not a tiny minority, like the Nazis/Hitler fans really are) are viewing Hitler as a Hero?

I am saying that Hitler and Stalin are increasingly being viewed as heroes in their respective countries.
they been dead for over a decade, who thefuckcares???

The people who view them as heroes?
 

krcat1

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Originally posted by: Colt45
CanOWorms, do you seriously believe this shite you spew? I've noticed you've been a fvcking idiot for a long time, but this is critical mass.

Germans love Hitler? WTF is wrong with you?

Hilter no, Stalin increasing. Alot of people believe the party line of Stalin being the strong leader that saved Russia from death. While there is some truth to this, it ignores Stalin's mis-handling of the war that resulted in defeats.

Russia is a nation that has been invades many times. If the US had been under the loving hand of the Mongols, our culture might see things differently.

( Don't start about boy George W. He can't even talk in the same league as Hilter/Stalin.)
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: wchou
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: NJDevil

I don't recall this happening, was this recent? I'm pretty sure that nothing like that would happen today, as Germans are in general very against Nazi action. What you are saying is that Germans (not a tiny minority, like the Nazis/Hitler fans really are) are viewing Hitler as a Hero?

I am saying that Hitler and Stalin are increasingly being viewed as heroes in their respective countries.
they been dead for over a decade, who thefuckcares???

The people who view them as heroes?

I've totally stopped taking you serious, and i would advise everyone else to do this. Because you are sick, and stupid. I can't believe you say the things you say.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: krcat1
Originally posted by: Colt45
CanOWorms, do you seriously believe this shite you spew? I've noticed you've been a fvcking idiot for a long time, but this is critical mass.

Germans love Hitler? WTF is wrong with you?

Hilter no, Stalin increasing. Alot of people believe the party line of Stalin being the strong leader that saved Russia from death. While there is some truth to this, it ignores Stalin's mis-handling of the war that resulted in defeats.

Russia is a nation that has been invades many times. If the US had been under the loving hand of the Mongols, our culture might see things differently.

( Don't start about boy George W. He can't even talk in the same league as Hilter/Stalin.)



Stalin only saved Russia by getting out of the way of his generals. Had Hitler done the same for Germany we wouldn't be talking about Germany losing the war.
 
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